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Bad Guy coldbloodedreptilelover ripped me off and is selling the snake i sent him!!!!

I have all the info I need to get this taken care of with the Postal Service Inspectors, they are more then willing to chew this guy up and spit him out.
Dylan, I am so happy that you got what belongs to you back, some lessons are hard to learn, but stuff like this makes us more aware of the kinds of ppl around us.
 
All I can say is WOW.

I am extremely happy that you got your snake back and I am extremely sorry about its condition. I think now you have a really good leg to stand on with the fact he shipped the snake via USPS they do not play around when it comes to violating packages. also.. since he shipped it 3day ( which doesn't surprise me ) That is considered cruelty. Everyone here is pointing you in the right direction and offering you resources that you wont find anywhere else. You should move full steam ahead and have this guy prosecuted to the fullest extent for what he did.

As for your parents Dylan don't feel bad that they aren't very hands on in your hobby. Since they aren't you really should take that extra step if you want to be a under age kid in the hobby. Be careful, ask questions. Don't be afraid to pm a random person or mod here on the forum and ask for their opinion. I really hope you learned something from this experience. I am very glad it turned out ok in the end.

Mark Good job on returning the snake.. really big mistake shipping it via usps 3 day. It just shows that you truly only returned the snake because everyone here turned the heat up. IT would of really showed some type of spine if you would of shipped it through the proper venue packed nicely over night. I hope this is also a learning experience for you. DONT RIP PEOPLE OFF! or the BOI wolves will chew you up. :thumbsup:
 
I'm just going to chime in here with my 2 cents, no one else has stated their opinion to be quite like mine.

Dylan, I read the whole thing, all 30+ pages, I feel bad for you. But all the flags and warnings were there. I really hope for the best with you and your snake, but my beef is with your parents. How are you doing all this and you are either trying not to get them involved(which would've been my personal choice at your age,) or they seem to not care, because there is more than enough evidence to implicate this guy on 2 state levels and a federal level multiple times over. This guy is **** *** ****** *****. And personally I would be filing charges whether you got the snake back or not, and I would've done it a long time ago. I'm glad to hear you got it back, and it's horrible how some people can treat these animals like this.

But my curiosity tingles me a bit. If all this has happened, and your parents have this little involvement then, no offense, you shouldn't have a retic. anyway. By the time you graduate that snake will be 12+ feet long. That's not a snake that can be tackled alone, you really need other people willing to help with seemingly easy and everyday things, like feeding, cage cleaning (by 12ft you should have a 3x4x6 cage at least, which will be hard to provide in your parents house, or your first for that matter,) and just general health checking and handlings to keep them tame.
IMO you should've never gotten a retic, I'm not bashing you, I'm almost 21 and had to remind myself how much care those snakes take when I saw a green anaconda for sale at That Pet Place (very huge store, many herps you wouldn't expect, like the anaconda.) And then to see the price tag of 170$ looking so affordable, so easy for just anyone to own. "Maybe if I buy it, at least it will go to someone who knows how to properly care for it." I'm also by no means an expert, but I do know proper husbandry for such snakes. Personally I think you(along with someone who knows a lot about your particular python, an adult too) should find someone who you can be assured will take excellent care of the snake, and go home and downsize a good bit.

Nonetheless, I hope your snake makes it, she's beautiful. But next time maybe you should start out with something a bit smaller. I'll be posting my welcome soon you can see what I chose to start out with, I'll be posting pictures of pretty much everything. Mind you I didn't got bot of my snakes after I turned 18( stupid moms afraid of snakes :( )

Im sorry, but who are u to determine whether someone can take care of a snake?

Do u know for a fact his parents dont handle the snake or assist him? Perhaps they dont wanna get involved with the scam because the wanna let the OP expirience some of real life. JMO tho.

Do u know for a fact the he has no expirience with handling large boids?
You even stated urself that ur no expert, so therefore while telling him what he SHOULD have done and what he SHOULD have started with, you admit to having no idea what ur talking about.

How do u know they dont already have a room dedicated to the snake? Most people in my expirience with large boids as pets end up just giving them a whole bedroom.

And with that last sentence, are u saying kids shouldnt own snakes because u had to wait til ur 18? I had to wait til I moved out too but I have no problem with kids owning a reptile as long as they can take care of it.

The only thing the OP did wrong was be naive, and ended up getting scammed. But so far I have seen no evidence what-so-ever that shows he is not capable of handling that snake.

Perhaps u should keep ur BOI posts more on topic.
 
unacceptable

I have to agree with everyone on frying this guy legally. Granted he did do the right thing by shipping Dylan's snake back, but doing it half :censored: like this and in violation of USPS regulations is flat out UNACCEPTABLE! This guys is a fraud, and this cannot be allowed to pass. Dylan I understand you have been through a lot and I wish your python a speedy recovery! It is good to see her back but now its time to put the real heat on this guy. He cannot be allowed to get away with what he has done to you and probably to others before you. If you and/or your parents do nothing you are pretty much letting a fugitive get away with a crime, and its guaranteed he will just keep doing his criminal acts on others. So far he was successful against you by changing his name to fool you, whats not to say he will just change his name again and scam someone else. You should not have any passion for this guys just because he returned your python back to you (In horrible condition at that).

We cannot let him off the hook!!!!

Sorry if I offend anyone, but I fight for this countries freedom and cant stand the scumbags who abuse the laws at the expense of others. :angry:
 
to add to my previous post, Dylan you and your parents will be doing the Reptile community a HUGE favor by pressing charges on this guy. The more scum like this behind bars the less our fellow herpers get harmed by these vultures.
 
Dylan-
You got her back! She's in rough shape, but it sounds like she'll recover. I'm very happy to see her in your care again. I knew the BOI would come through for you, so I'm glad that happened. I couldn't agree more with the general feeling that you should do what you can to get him prosecuted in some form or fashion. Remember what you went through when he scammed you. There a lot of other "Dylan's" out there just waiting to go through the same thing you did. Your actions can stop that from happening. Please keep us all updated as you progress.
Again, glad she's back home with you.

Jim
 
Dylan you did the right thing by bringing your problem here to the boi. Now do the right thing again and help others the way the boi family here has helped YOU. Call the USPS and have your mom or dad there to help you explain the details of this scammers violations. I have a feeling they wont sit on their hands with pictures and labels as proof of the crime. Im sure Mark, William, Billy, John Doe or whatever he goes by today will be getting whats coming to him. You cant just sit by and let him go on and keep commiting these petty crimes without fear of prosecution.

Hope the snake has a speedy & full recovery....
 
How do u know they dont already have a room dedicated to the snake? Most people in my expirience with large boids as pets end up just giving them a whole bedroom.

I call B.S. I've seen hundreds of "enclosure pics", "snake room pics", and other picture threads over the last decade, as well as visited and spoken with many keepers in person, and I've NEVER seen a "bedroom-turned-into-an-enclosure". It is definitely not true that "most" people that keep large boids give them a ROOM of their house. You were making a valid point, there's no reason to ruin it with ridiculous, unprovable, and unfounded statements.

Evidence and odds are HUGELY in favor of the OP NOT having a room dedicated to the snake. It's only 4' long, and no one really does what you were saying.
 
please refrain from the off topic postings, this is everyone's warning. There are discussion forums available.

Thank you.

Dylan, I am so glad you finally got your snake back and that she somehow made it alive.

-April
 
Did u fail to notice how I said in MY expirience. I dont know tons of retic and burm breeder or owns but I know people within a block of each other have or had whole rooms dedicated to their 15+ ft animals. The first person I ever helped deal with reptiles and sparked my intersted into breeding built walls in a large spare room for his the three big girls.

And I call BS on u, for decades you have been visiting people, and have not seen ONE person who dedicated a whole room to a large snake, or hell even a large monitor? While it may not be praticed in your area, its not uncommon around here. And how do u know for a fact they dont already have a room set aside for it? That was my whole point to the guy, no one has any idea what this kid has planned for his snake, and no one should try to school him based on assumptions.
 
If you read the whole thing, like you claimed, you would know that Dylan was trying to do just that.

Dylan, calling the post office may not get you very far...if they don't seem interested in addressing this, ask for information on contacting the local postmaster.
Excuse me sir, but I did read the WHOLE thing, and I'll show you where you're wrong,

I said "With an adult!" clearly the point he missed in the first place or none of this would've happened. Any adult would've seen the hundreds of red flags and would've probably been more forward about reporting this guy.

Thanks for the seemingly good correction, but I did indeed read all of it. And my point was very valid.
 
Also, I contacted the post office and they said the only thing I can do is file a complaint and she said probably the only thing they will do to him is send him a warning letter. I told her the whole story and that's what she said.
 
Any adult would've seen the hundreds of red flags and would've probably been more forward about reporting this guy.

Complete BS. There are many ADULTS who have been ripped off.
The red flags are usually seen in hindsight.
The ops age has nothing to do with it. This guy would rip off anyone he could.
 
Im sorry, but who are u to determine whether someone can take care of a snake?

Do u know for a fact his parents dont handle the snake or assist him? Perhaps they dont wanna get involved with the scam because the wanna let the OP expirience some of real life. JMO tho.

Do u know for a fact the he has no expirience with handling large boids?
You even stated urself that ur no expert, so therefore while telling him what he SHOULD have done and what he SHOULD have started with, you admit to having no idea what ur talking about.

How do u know they dont already have a room dedicated to the snake? Most people in my expirience with large boids as pets end up just giving them a whole bedroom.

And with that last sentence, are u saying kids shouldnt own snakes because u had to wait til ur 18? I had to wait til I moved out too but I have no problem with kids owning a reptile as long as they can take care of it.

The only thing the OP did wrong was be naive, and ended up getting scammed. But so far I have seen no evidence what-so-ever that shows he is not capable of handling that snake.

Perhaps u should keep ur BOI posts more on topic.
I solely stated my opinion on the subject. Ill go through and repoint a few things out.

No I'm not an expert, but I more more than a few things about large boids. They are my favorite and the only reason I dont have any myself is lack of space, which is why I chose 2 ball pythons for the time being instead of a carpet python or a burmese. I have dealt with a few 10+ft pythons, rock and burmese, but never a retic. My dad had a 13.5ft burmese python, which I regularly helped care for over about 7 years, and my step-dad also had one, though this one left us within a few months at only 6ft in a trade for a spectacled caiman.
I also never once said that I knew his parents had little-to-no involvement with the snake nor did I claim to know his housing situation, simply gave my thoughts based on what I read here (honestly his parents didn't have to care about him learning a lesson, the poor care of the snake itself should've been enough for them to get involved.) I simply stated it seemed as though they had little involvement, and pretty much didn't seem to care about the snakes welfare in this case. That was all.

I also never claimed to know his depth of information or experience with any kind of snake, I simply told him(possibly he's heard it before) that these snakes are huge and it's not a job for 1 man (let alone a child) to take on. Yes it can be done with the proper know-how and experience, which I'm not doubting the boy has. Simply conveying that it can be a tough job for anyone, because I have dealt with some big snakes myself, and I know they can be a handful.

Again I never claimed to know his housing situation, simply stated it could be hard to provide proper space for the snake at his parents house, maybe more-so at his first house (or apartment, in which case there's a 99% chance the snake will not be allowed to join you.) Never said "he aint got no space for that there big ol' snake mmhhhhmmm," only guessed at the possibility that his parent don't have a spare empty bedroom in their house(we never did in my house, but we were usually in the city, rowhomes aren't very big.)

And lastly I never said that kids shouldn't own herps, I was not allowed to have a snake until I was 18 and moved out of my mom's house, solely because she didn't like snakes. We had an NA alligator and a SA caiman for a few years, she didn't mind lizards and stuff, just hated snakes. I've had multiple herps since before I was 10. TBH my first was a baby SA caiman I named Squeaky (I have a picture of me and him from '96 in my album thing,) and if not for my step-dad i wouldn't have been able to care for it.
Do I think I was too young for a caiman at 6 yrs old? Yes
Do I think 15 is too young for a retic? No, given there is more than just the 15 y/o to care for it, because it is a BIG job, and children look tasty.

I try not to make assumptions(reasons obvious in your flaming of my post,) but I gave multiple scenarios and my opinion of them. Never claimed to know anything first-hand about Dylan's situation.

And my post was no more or less relevant than anyone else's here, if anything your flaming post about how improperly place my comment is, is the irrelevant BOI post.

All in all, play nice kids, I'm not here to critique, just offer my 2 cents (I think that was my opening line?)
 
She has shed, pooped and I true to give her a small rat but she hasn't taken it yet. Her cage is very hot and humid and her shin is looking a lot better

Thats good to hear Dylan. Did she happen to be weezing or chirping when you got her? Or have you noticed white gunk/puss or bubbles around her nose or insider her mouth? Since it has been confirmed that mark/william had sick animals that died in his possession, I highly reccommend you check for URI signs and check over again just to make sure she hadnt gotten anything during his care.

Daniel, you made your point as well as everyone else about Dylans age and his parents. Can you please drop it and move on. The back and forth arguing over this is not helping keep this discussion on topic. Thanks!
 
Thats good to hear Dylan. Did she happen to be weezing or chirping when you got her? Or have you noticed white gunk/puss or bubbles around her nose or insider her mouth? Since it has been confirmed that mark/william had sick animals that died in his possession, I highly reccommend you check for URI signs and check over again just to make sure she hadnt gotten anything during his care.

Daniel, you made your point as well as everyone else about Dylans age and his parents. Can you please drop it and move on. The back and forth arguing over this is not helping keep this discussion on topic. Thanks!

So far she has no signs of uri. Im watching her very close though. Do u have any suggestions on her eating because so far she has no interest in the rat
 
She has shed, pooped and I true to give her a small rat but she hasn't taken it yet. Her cage is very hot and humid and her shin is looking a lot better

Thats awesome Dylan, glad to hear shes looking better, it looks like she'll make a full recovery and be happy with u!
 
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