Bad Guy Never do any transactions with Anthony Hosek

[laterob]

Hi, Anthony. Thanks for coming here.

Candy Cane - bought last summer, lived for 4 months roughly
Creamsicle Motley - bought last summer - died 2 months ago
Blizzard (sold as a male) - bought in autumn, died earlier this year.
Silver Queens - Both bought no more than 4 months ago, one died recently and the other is a skeptical eater.

Do you remember if these are all the snakes you sold him? In your mind, is he asking for replacements too late/ too often/ what is going on? Are any of your adults dying? How about other customers of yours?

I don't even know.....can corns get ibd or is there a similar type of disease in corns?

 

[anthony hosek]

I have have one bloodred hatchling refuse to feed she died last year. I clean every thing with physan 20. I worked in a pet store as my first job, was a vet tech. have supplied many pets stores for years with animals. the first was a poss. creamscile that I did not hatch out but she laid 34 eggs last time. then he double clutched het last year and told me she died gravid this year as for the others he had them longer. yes I sold the blizzard the girl i sold her to left the female by mistake and took the male, she sold me the silverqueen pair I had them for a few weeks before he took them. as for the candycane I do not know I still have a lovley snow from her. he has made accusations and threats and personal attacks in short I am done and over Him. like I told him do what you think you have to do. oh not that it matters I am 31 and have been breeding for the wholesale market since 1994 thank you Anthony Hosek

 

[Albinoscooby]

I have have one bloodred hatchling refuse to feed she died last year. I clean every thing with physan 20. I worked in a pet store as my first job, was a vet tech. have supplied many pets stores for years with animals. the first was a poss. creamscile that I did not hatch out but she laid 34 eggs last time. then he double clutched het last year and told me she died gravid this year as for the others he had them longer. yes I sold the blizzard the girl i sold her to left the female by mistake and took the male, she sold me the silverqueen pair I had them for a few weeks before he took them. as for the candycane I do not know I still have a lovley snow from her. he has made accusations and threats and personal attacks in short I am done and over Him. like I told him do what you think you have to do. oh not that it matters I am 31 and have been breeding for the wholesale market since 1994 thank you Anthony Hosek

You're blizzard was gravid because of your cohabitation of the pair. Period. If you wouldn't have had them together, they wouldn't have locked; and given me a surprise clutch when she was a little on the smaller side anyway. Who would have thought that by keeping snakes together would end up in unwanted pregnancy? I never threatened you. As I said on here, I told you that I wanted a refund instead of snake replacements if possible. Also that I would start a thread (here) if you hadn't tried to resolve the issue. I did what I had to do by coming on here and enforming everyone for you.

She is buried in the yard, so a necropsy is out of the question now.

 

[Revolution1221]

he has made accusations and threats and personal attacks in short I am done and over Him.

Do you have any e-mails or text messages between you two? Something to help get this mess figured out. Right now it is just here say and it is hard to take anyones word for the truth. Scooby if you are having so many deaths especially from the same breeder it is iresponsible on your end not to get a necropsy done to find out what is going on. Corns dont just up and die if you have a few die off and you cannot tell the reason, any sensible breeder would have those snakes tested for the sake of their colony.

 

[David Scarboro]

Well, actually yes

well I think most of you have taken care of my thoughts on this situation. please let me know if you have any specific questions.Thanks Anthony Hosek

Can you give us more of a timeline as to what he got from you and when, and when he returned with a complaint? Do you have any of the correspondence remaining? Have you lost animals?

 

[~Just Curious~]

She is buried in the yard, so a necropsy is out of the question now.

Perhaps it's too late for that now, but what's stopping you from bringing the remaining silverqueen in to be looked at? You did say that she's currently having the same problems that all the others had before they passed. All signs are pointing to her ending up like the others unless you actively try and stop it.

So many have gotten sick and died from this "mystery disease" over such a spread-out timeline, so I'm really wondering why you didn't bring any in sooner. It might have prevented some deaths.
It's not too late though. She still has a chance and you should be trying everything possible to help her pull through. A vet is the obvious first step.

Also as we've already said, tests will help clear a lot of this up. Once you know what they're dying from/what's wrong with them, aside from hopefully preventing more deaths, it'll also be a lot easier to pinpoint where the problem originated.

 

[Mikkwa]

Brian, another reason I can think of for you to get the silverqueen tested and any other snakes you have that are showing the least bit of being sick is: If you really want people reading this thread to take you serious as a breeder and expect to sell your snakes, the majority of us who already own snakes will want to make sure your snakes will not infect our collection.

Possible undetected diseases in your snakes that someone else might purchase from you could wipe out a collection & then you could be facing a thread much like this one. What would keep someone from thinking it could come from your breeders if you don't rule out the cause through tests?

Hopefully it is not anything that can be passed on to yours or others snakes if & when you start selling the clutches. But, I for one am not willing to take that chance from someone who loses several snakes and hasn't had any tested for a cause.

 

[Jon Simpson]

Felton Willis aka Reptilecity aka haha reptiles aka allapattah whatever is a THIEF!! He is a criminal and frequently sends his packages via regular postal mail and doesnt even mark live animal. He charged my credit card for over $1000 then claimed it was a mistake and took over 2 weeks to do a chargeback!!! I am very interested in how to report him to FL fish and wildlife. It is public record that he owes DHL tens of thousands of dollars and was sued by them. He was also in trouble with the postal service for this same thing. Again, he is a criminal. I did some digging and also found in public record that he just was charged with poss of cocaine!! Not only is he a criminal, he is a CRACKHEAD!! Buyers be ware...he and his so called wife, Nina (no marriage record ever found) are nothing but scam artists!!! She gave me sob story after sob story even including matters of child custody. They are not professionals what so ever.

 

[jimoo]

Why are you posting that in multiple threads? That is way out of line.

 

[hhmoore]

That has already been addressed with Mr Simpson - no need to further disrupt this thread.

 

[weird_science04]

I am not saying you are a liar or insinuating anything of the sort. The only question I have is, why are the babies nice and healthy when they came from the adult snakes that could be sick? Wouldn't you think the babies would be unhealthy also if bred from sick adult parents?

While it is a shame that you have lost so many snakes. It is very hard to lose animals that you hold dear. I send my condolences for your losses. Hopefully, the rest of your collection is healthy and safe.

A necropsy is not enough though to tell you what happened with your snake. You want to get a pathology done also. If this other adult silverqueen passes, I would put her into the refrigerator (not freezer, as the freezer will make the necropsy and pathology impossible) and get her to a vet asap in order to get tests done. I know you only have corn snakes, but corn snakes can carry diseases and can have medical problems. For you, it would be nice to know that the snake wasn't carrying anything contagious since you are a snake breeder. Also, it would be good for your future prospective buyers to know this. Considering if they do a search for your name, this thread may come up. In addition, if the snake died from something specific that was obvious not from you, then people would stop grilling you for more information and be more receptive of your reason for posting this thread.

Once again, I am sorry for your losses, all in a short period of time.

Good luck.

Star

 

[Pasodama]

It really shouldn't be expected to get a refund, from the seller, after so much time elapses between date of purchase and date of demise. Any number of things can cause the death, of a snake, while in the hands of a new owner (where the seller has, absolutely, no responsibility for its occurrence).
OTOH If snakes, from the same seller, die off, repeatedly & without fail, (while others do not) ... it would ~seem~ to imply that something may be wrong with the seller's snakes (with his own very poor husbandry, ~if~ his husbandry is as has been described, possibly causing or exacerbating the problem).
There are certain diseases/illnesses, in Corn Snakes, that can take time to kill them ... although there can be others, one example is Cryptosporidium infection.
In this particular case ... The only way that the seller can be held responsible is: #1 A necropsy, or testing, had been done on these snakes... #2 the problem was/is identified and... #3 responsibility/cause points toward the seller.
The problem is that, other than assumptions, there is no proof as to what caused the deaths and no proof to tie in the seller as being responsible for the death of these snakes.
This should have been an "Info" thread rather than a "Bad Guy" thread.

 

[anthony hosek]

the last message I got was " Im going to blast you on the forums nowand Im done with you. either give me a fucking refund or Im doing it before the night is over" not a threat? and i went over many diffrent things and possable illness you might have in your collection tried to help you but you never took a stool sample to the vet. or a body so like i said do what you think you have to do

 

[David Scarboro]

OP, I see you here now. Did you tell him that???

 

[David Scarboro]

And the OP disappears...

 

[Albinoscooby]

I didn't disappear. I've been at work all day so I haven't had a lot of time to sit down and give my response until now. That's what I was talking about. It's like your instigating the whole thing. There's no need for that. Really.

I admit that yes I'm new to breeding, but When it comes to cornsnake husbandry, I am definitely not new. Some of this information I've already known. I plan on taking her in to a vet hopefully this weekend and had been planning on it. Thank you for all of your advice and information you've provided. In the future, I will keep a paper trail of everything from now on. This is like one of those things you need to learn the hard way. (Like me dealing with Anthony). Weird Science is one of the only people who didn't bash this thread or me personally. This thread was put up to let you guys know the status and conditions of my bad business with Anthony over time. All so that you won't have to go through the same. Instead, you all jump on me. How is that helping one another out? A majority of you guys could have approached me and the situation in a more polite way. You should treat others the way you would want to be treated. Period. To get respect, you have to give it.

Luckily the rest of my colony is eating and all look healthy. So I'm hoping there isn't a parasite problem. The only snake in question at all is the SilverQueen from Anthony. Like I said though, she eats off and on and is still having regular healthy sheds. Regardless, I'm still going to take her in to a vet.

I responded saying "Not at all. I'm simply informing you that I'm going to tell the rest of the snake world about your bad skills." Naturally most people would react partially in the way I did. Especially after having so many bad experiences. Who wouldn't be mad at that point? I spent well over $400 with the costs of mice, bins, bedding, etc. All for nothing in the long run. I don't plan on doing business with you anymore Anthony. I've sent you pictures of my rack setups. That's how your supposed to seperate male and female snakes. NOT by putting them in the same cage all of the time.

I should have caught on earlier on, but like I said, we all make mistakes in life and the only way to learn from them unfortunately, is the hard way. As all of us already know. So if I came off as offensive to any of you, I apologize. We can't always see someones true opinion; like text messaging.

 

[David Scarboro]

I didn't disappear. I've been at work all day so I haven't had a lot of time to sit down and give my response until now. That's what I was talking about. It's like your instigating the whole thing. There's no need for that. Really.

I admit that yes I'm new to breeding, but When it comes to cornsnake husbandry, I am definitely not new. Some of this information I've already known. I plan on taking her in to a vet hopefully this weekend and had been planning on it. Thank you for all of your advice and information you've provided. In the future, I will keep a paper trail of everything from now on. This is like one of those things you need to learn the hard way. (Like me dealing with Anthony). Weird Science is one of the only people who didn't bash this thread or me personally. This thread was put up to let you guys know the status and conditions of my bad business with Anthony over time. All so that you won't have to go through the same. Instead, you all jump on me. How is that helping one another out? A majority of you guys could have approached me and the situation in a more polite way. You should treat others the way you would want to be treated. Period. To get respect, you have to give it.

Luckily the rest of my colony is eating and all look healthy. So I'm hoping there isn't a parasite problem. The only snake in question at all is the SilverQueen from Anthony. Like I said though, she eats off and on and is still having regular healthy sheds. Regardless, I'm still going to take her in to a vet.

I responded saying "Not at all. I'm simply informing you that I'm going to tell the rest of the snake world about your bad skills." Naturally most people would react partially in the way I did. Especially after having so many bad experiences. Who wouldn't be mad at that point? I spent well over $400 with the costs of mice, bins, bedding, etc. All for nothing in the long run. I don't plan on doing business with you anymore Anthony. I've sent you pictures of my rack setups. That's how your supposed to seperate male and female snakes. NOT by putting them in the same cage all of the time.

I should have caught on earlier on, but like I said, we all make mistakes in life and the only way to learn from them unfortunately, is the hard way. As all of us already know. So if I came off as offensive to any of you, I apologize. We can't always see someones true opinion; like text messaging.

Brian, I do not feel that you hae been jumped on. You have been asked some questions and counseled on better husbandry skills. You have left some questions still unanswered to this point. If you thought that you could come here, start a thread, provide no or little proof, and have everyone accept your version then I am sorry. You need to develop a little thicker skin. If you were able to do that, the BOI would not be the great tool that it is. Sorry, you have got your feelings hurt. Logic stills insists to me that a outwardly healthy snake that shows no problems and then many months later develops an illness often will not be the fault of the seller. Especially when a pattern of the same kind of incidents develops.

 

[Albinoscooby]

If that were true, why would his snakes be the only snakes ever that I've had die on me? Would it just be out of coincidence? You see my point? Something doesn't sound right. Bacteria takes time to spread and kill a snake as you stated. Maybe they were infected when I got them already, but looked normal and weighed a normal amount. I posted up the Creamsicle Motley he posted as an Amel Motley. Amel and Creamsicle are COMPLETELY different.

 

[David Scarboro]

If that were true, why would his snakes be the only snakes ever that I've had die on me?

Again, any proof?

Would it just be out of coincidence? You see my point?

No.

Something doesn't sound right. Bacteria takes time to spread and kill a snake as you stated.

You will have to show me where I said that.

Maybe they were infected when I got them already, but looked normal and weighed a normal amount.

Maybe? That word works both ways, (kind of like might) and I would leave Maybe out of it.

I posted up the Creamsicle Motley he posted as an Amel Motley. Amel and Creamsicle are COMPLETELY different.[/QUOTES]

So far, that is all you have possibly proved.

Brian, I am saying Anthony is a good guy. I do not know you or him. You COULD be right here. But to expect us to accept YOUR version with now proof is not gonna happen with most people here.

 

[Pasodama]

Weird Science is one of the only people who didn't bash this thread or me personally. This thread was put up to let you guys know the status and conditions of my bad business with Anthony over time. All so that you won't have to go through the same. Instead, you all jump on me. How is that helping one another out? A majority of you guys could have approached me and the situation in a more polite way. You should treat others the way you would want to be treated. Period. To get respect, you have to give it.

Excuse me but ... Weird Science is not the only one (since you only mention that name, despite saying "one of the only", it would ~seem~ that you believe Weird Science is the only one). There are others who did not jump on you or bash you &/or this thread.
I, myself, did not jump on you nor bash you &/or this thread. Simply stated facts. Thus, I do take a little offense at being lumped in with any who you feel may have bashed you &/or this thread.

Anyway, I am sorry that you have had to go through the experience of losing the snakes, that you did lose, and wish you the best with your Silver Queen and the rest of your snakes.