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Inquiry Anyone SELL to insane canes? ship and then get paid?

most reply's here are talking retail. this is a wholesae deal. many times product is shipped then inspected and paid for after product arrives.
prices are also always way lower when wholesaling. especially when wholesaling to a wholesaler. not sure if insane canes is a wholesaler or not.
if YOU sont feel comfortable then dont do it. if you do then go ahead.
you may want to voice your concerns with them and they may work it out to make you more comfortable. your the one selling so you can tell them you want more also. let them know and they may become your best customers.
adam jeffery
 
April,
We were shocked to see this post since our last conversation we agreed about having them all shipped this week. We tried contacting you a few times before posting on here, but were unsuccessful.

To clear a few things up that were left out of the OP’s post:
April contacted us regarding an ad we had listed to buy blue tongues which stated wholesale prices. April gave us a price of $75ea , we politely rejected it. April then wrote us back and said to make her an offer and that she had no idea what wholesale prices were. We called her after yet another email from her and spent a good while on the phone w/ her. This is when we offered her the $50ea and said that we would pay for shipping (Alaska to FL). April agreed to that deal. The only hang up that she had was about her shipping them first. We explained that most, if not all wholesalers work that way. Once the animals arrived and were inspected that we would pay her the same day they were received in whichever payment method she preferred. We even offered to pay for ½ of it upfront (again, whichever payment method she preferred) as well as pay the shipping if that would help put her at ease. When we ended our second conversation on Friday evening, it was considered a done deal and that the animals would be shipped out this coming week (once she caught the one that got out of its cage). In closing our conversation, she even told us that she would send us a list with all of the weights so we could get the shipping tag ready for her.
We did tell her to check our references on the BOI threads as well as trader ratings as a reference on us. We’re not looking to rip anyone off nor are we going anywhere any time too soon.

So April, it sounds like to us that you were not happy with the deal that we agreed upon. If that was the case, why did you not contact us directly? If you wanted to do research on us, we understand about a simple post on the boi like, ‘Have you sold to Insane Canes, and if so how did your dealings go with them’, but the way that you posted this inquiry on us seems like you’re advertising them / looking to sell them for more money. And also trying to make us look like the bad guys when you said “anyone who knows blueys knows papered andrew seike sexed adults are worth a good bit more than $50.” You agreed to that price. Your original asking price was only $25 more.
So what’s going on?? :shrug01:
 
Shipping first to other ACTUAL businesses is frequently done - but I wouldn't consider it "the Norm" - depends on the business and their relationship with that customer. When I buy from other business I pay first the majority of the time - however when buying wholesale from a private individual I think expecting them to ship first is a little ridiculous.
I always pay private breeders first - they generally have more to lose than the actual business. Is Insane Canes a real business, or just a name?
 
i do sell to someone who buys whole sell and he has always sent me payment first before i sent to him. he also sent me a shipping slip for my bearded dragons after my bearded dragons were paid for. along those lines after he paid for them he said to send them when it is best for me and for the bearded dragons, given the weather of course.

i would NOT send anything BEFORE payment. too many times people have been burned in that fashion. i don't know this company in particular. i can only speak in my own opinion.
 
Patrick@ColorfulCreatures said:
Every wholesaler requires shipping first and then payment after inspection of animals. What you need to decide is whether or not you want to risk it based on their reputation. If you're concerned about actually receiving payment then maybe perhaps contact a wholesaler who has a known rep for paying for their animals or post an ad yourself and not only get paid 1st but make more money.
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My wholesellers paid me up front. :NoNo:

Reputation is only as good as the last deal and we may not have heard of the "last" deal. 100.00 is not a lot of money.

:iagree: With the last statement.
 
Considering their trader review, I would have just sent them the $50 lizards first. If they wanna burn their hard work for $50, so be it, but I doubt it.
 
deborahbroadus said:
My wholesellers paid me up front. :NoNo:

Reputation is only as good as the last deal and we may not have heard of the "last" deal. 100.00 is not a lot of money.

:iagree: With the last statement.
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No major wholesalers pay up front, if you have a relationship with some they may perhaps pay you up front but other than that no one pays up front, that is the industry standard for wholesaling.
 
Where is the Law that states that there is a Standard for Reptile Wholesalers (i believe that established older animal laws are not applicatable).

Just curious.
 
No one said there was a law, industry standards means the usual way of doing business. If a wholesaler paid everyone up front before recieving and inspecting animals to make sure they are healthy and of their quality standards from anyone who claimed to have whatever would not be in business very long, period. That is why this is an industry standard for wholesale, it's not debatable. Anyone who believes otherwise is either new or doesn't sell very many animals.
 
I would also agree with not sending the animals until funds are recieved. However, i do know that some companies do that. I believe it's for their protection from buying junk animals, not to say that yours are. Personally, if you have never delt with them prior i wouldn't do it. Tell them to pay you first then and only then will you send the animals out. As far as their price quote, to me seems low. But then again their looking at it from a retail standpoint, they have to house them, feed, water them prior to being sold. Also they may do a QT for a period aswell but i cannot be certain as i know nothing about that company. Either way hopefully it works out for ya.
 
I think a few people have gotten confused somewhere along the line....
Comments about $50 and $100 are off the mark - the proposed deal was 12 at $50 each, or $600. Most of the bigger wholesalers do not pay in advance, many of the smaller ones do (most likely because they'd get told to go scratch if they said they wouldn't - seems that perk comes with volume and reputation...when they have enough options to say no without negatively impacting their supply).
 
Not some companies, all companies pay after receiving for wholesale unless a relationship has already been established. As far as the offer goes it's wholesale, unfortunately it's considerably lower than the retail rate so if you can take wholesale rates then don't wholesale. If you want retail then sell them yourself.
 
I was repling to the previous post before and I agree that people have gotten confused about the amount of the offer. Whenever the quantity purchased goes up obviously the individual price goes down, that's the definition of wholesale
 
hhmoore said:
Most of the bigger wholesalers do not pay in advance, many of the smaller ones do (most likely because they'd get told to go scratch if they said they wouldn't - seems that perk comes with volume and reputation...when they have enough options to say no without negatively impacting their supply).
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I have to agree with Harald on this point. Every extremely large wholesaler that I know of or have dealt with cuts a check after receiving the animals. With that said, there isn't many of them. For instance, I only know of one that does it that way in California and they supply the majority of generic pet shops(not reptile specific specialty stores) in the state.

With these larger wholesalers the price paid is rock bottom for the most part. They supply retail stores buying at wholesale.

The majority of the "wholesalers" online wouldn't fall under this category.

If I was dealing with some random person on the internet I wouldn't do it.

As to this particular subject, all I can state is I believe I did some business with Shawn five or six years ago and didn't have any problems at that time.
 
Well, I didnt know that so many people had such strong feelings about it.

I wasnt aware that I had said anything against insane canes, I was just voicing my fears about the issue we were having and hoping that someone with experience could reassure me. thats all i was trying to do. i wasnt trying to degrade insane canes or anything of the sort.

Facts are pretty much as stated, they put out an ad asking for blue tongues, i responded, I offered them, they refused, they offered me a different price that was much lower, but I did agree to it, and i'll admit I should not have whined about how much lower it was publicly and I apologize for that. There is a lot going on in my personal life right now and i acted unprofessionally.

having that said im not a professional. I run a herp society but i dont deal in selling animals very often at all, and i had mentioned that i dont know how thats suppose to work. thats why i asked, Im a noob. im not like some wholesaler pawning off imports onto somebody else, I raised these skinks myself, ive bred some of them, took them to the vet, i took care of them ya know? Im not like a professional wholesaler, i dont know how the big dogs conduct business. they live in a different world than me. All i know is that im moving in two months, and I need to rehome my pet blue tongues before that happens. thats all im tryin to do.

I did tell the woman that i needed at least one person to verify that they have done it that way, and she told me to look here, i didnt find one so i asked, in hindsight, the way I went about it could be seen as derogatory and for those who feel that way. I apologize, It was not my intention.

It appears to me that most people would not ship their animals to someone without payment first. Im just basing that off of response volume. That doesnt mean that people should view insane canes any differently because of their policy on it. they are taking risk by buying the animals and i dont exactly blame them for that. I guess I just expected that since everytime that i buy an animal, (and take that same risk) I have to pay for it before I receive it, that it works the same way in reverse.

I know now some people do send without payment and that its worked, but it seems there are more that have done it and it has not worked. I dont think it matters now anyway because im pretty sure our deal fell threw because of all this.

to the guy who felt this post was a similtaneous ad and slander. it really wasnt, im sorry you feel that way. we get a lot of that here though on the boi, so i see where you are coming from.

ive written a novel, so ill go but thanks for all the replies everyone.
 
I will buy them for $600 plus the shipping...and pay in advance. I would like to see the pics...but only 1 of each...do not require 30 pics. Can buy today. I sent email to you yesterday. Please contact me.

Bonita Galas
Sarasota, FL.
 
April, I would also be curious if I were you. This isn't a bad guy thread all she was doing was asking a question and wanted advice. I don't see any problem in posting what you did.
 
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