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Jungle or Motley?

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So I want to add another boa to my collection, and have narrowed it down to two different morphs. Either a jungle or a motley. I really can't decide which one to go with, so I figured I would ask everyone around here and maybe you can help push me out of this "stuck" spot I'm in with either words or pics..whichever you prefer.

I really enjoy both morphs, I know they both have super forms (though super motleys dont fare so well, and I have yet to see a super jungle) and either of them make great additions to a collection..I just need that nudge out of the nest into one direction or the other.

Thanks for lookin!:thumbsup:
Jordan
 
Never ask people what boa you should buy. I wouldn't buy either one until I found a snake that really stood out to me. Hell, it might not even be a jungle or a motley, but if you really like the snake, you'll be happier with the purchase.

Chris
 
I'm not asking someone to tell me which snake to buy. I am just asking for other peoples opinion of both morphs. I like both and wish I could add both to my collection, but right now can only afford one. And I am one of the WORST decision makers of all time..it would take me a lifetime to choose between the two. So I just wanted to ask what everyone else thinks, and some of the potential that both morphs could bring to the table.

I would never just buy a snake that someone said to buy, because I know I wouldn't be happy with it. I will be the one making the decision, but like I said before, I just need a nudge in one direction or the other.
 
Not sure if this helps or makes it harder hehehe

Personally, I like the jungles better. But there are some exceptional mots out there also

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Those are some awesome snakes April! Are they yours? I'm starting to see a sort of trend with motleys. For the most part, they all have the same overall appearance. I know that all snakes are different but it is harder to mistake two jungles than two motleys from one another. At least to me it is. I think I am starting to lean towards a jungle. I have considered a jungle motley, but all the examples of them I have seen look no better than a normal boa with motley pattern that's missing a few saddles and some aberrant ones. I haven't been able to find anything really nice. We'll see.
 
1) Who is April?
2) Motley is a pattern anomoly (to a lesser degree, color)...so yes, motleys have a distinct look - that's what makes them motleys.

While I like some of the super jungles I've seen, the standard version leaves me unmoved.

I do like motleys - some better than others, naturally. My hypo motleys have 2 very different looks....and I like them both.

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the gecko geek said:
Those are some awesome snakes April! Are they yours? I'm starting to see a sort of trend with motleys. For the most part, they all have the same overall appearance. I know that all snakes are different but it is harder to mistake two jungles than two motleys from one another. At least to me it is. I think I am starting to lean towards a jungle. I have considered a jungle motley, but all the examples of them I have seen look no better than a normal boa with motley pattern that's missing a few saddles and some aberrant ones. I haven't been able to find anything really nice. We'll see.
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Study Motleys and Jungles more. A Motley Jungle is unmistakable.
 
Harald.
My apologies. I meant Rachel but my mind is elsewhere.
I have seen both of those motleys when we talked before. Both are very nice animals. I think that every animal will be different, and the right one will find me eventually.

And at shadow,
Either I read the ad wrong or someone is very mistaken on what animals they have. When I saw them I was wondering why it didn't look nicer. Either way, I would like to see a motley jungle that drops my jaw.
 
Since its a matter of finance why you wont get both, why not get the best of either that speaks to you knowing that you will eventually add the other at a later date. So if you see a jungle that you like right now, get it. But if you see both that you can see yourself with at the same time then you're back where you started.
 
Stryker, that is exactly what I plan to do. I just don't know which I want and want to see the potential that each can bring. And then when one finds me I will know how to make my decision.

Rachel,
I apologize for getting your name wrong! I was celebrating my sisters birthday at six flags and, well, I just called you April for some reason. They are all amazing! I guess there's probably not a chance you would let any of them go huh?
 
That's ok Jordan, no harm done! As of right now I'm keeping them all, though I have been toying with the idea of letting the last motley girl go. It would have to be for a pretty penny though. She's an 08 het anery, possible het snow. Small for her age, not planning to breed her until at least next year or the year after that. Most likely I will just keep her though!
 
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If your wanting one or the other I'd go for a combo of both.

Much more potential.
 
Yeah if the opportunity arose to get a combo I would totally take that offer. I haven't seen a whole bunch of them around though. Just waiting for "the one" to fall into my lap :D
 
Brandon, that Jungle Motley T Pos is insane. And you have it photographed just right. Any idea what a Jungle Motley litter would look like? It seems that all the Jungle Motleys have more of a Motley pattern than Jungle so maybe the Motley gene is more dominant. But yes, the combo morph is a prime show animal and the T Pos influence makes the pattern pop.
 
Stryker414 said:
Brandon, that Jungle Motley T Pos is insane. And you have it photographed just right. Any idea what a Jungle Motley litter would look like? It seems that all the Jungle Motleys have more of a Motley pattern than Jungle so maybe the Motley gene is more dominant. But yes, the combo morph is a prime show animal and the T Pos influence makes the pattern pop.
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To be honest I am not sure how the animals would look from breeding a Motley Jungle however I am looking forward to finding out.

The way the litter should be broken down by breeding to a normal you should get 25% Normals 25% Motleys 25% Jungles 25% Motley Jungles.

I think some have more Motley influence than others but that normal Motley Jungle female I posed seems to have more of the Jungle influence. Also with the Motley Jungles they seem to have a mussel look about their face....they do really stand out and I believe the BP guys had it right when combining several co dominant animals to create new and exciting things...with more jungle influence I think they will look better! Motleys are often times just to dark.
 
I've got several great examples of both and personally I'll take Jungles over Motleys any day of the week. I just can't get enough of the color/pattern diversity and the way they just get so much better with age. For me there is nothing like a really clean/creamy adult boa...
 
Stryker414 said:
Brandon, that Jungle Motley T Pos is insane. And you have it photographed just right. Any idea what a Jungle Motley litter would look like? It seems that all the Jungle Motleys have more of a Motley pattern than Jungle so maybe the Motley gene is more dominant. But yes, the combo morph is a prime show animal and the T Pos influence makes the pattern pop.
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I believe the motley and jungle genes fall on the same locus. As with motley and stripe in corn snakes..One of the two genes are going to take more "control" of how the snake looks in appearance. Determining which will take control is impossible to tell, but so far it seems like the motley takes most control as far as pattern goes..Except for that first one Brandon posted. It looks like that one was evenly distributed.
 
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