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Boa Injured During Breeding

Stryker414

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I have an 08 hypo motley het anery, poss het albino that I paired with my 10 hypo jungle poss het albino. When he didn't act interested I threw in my 07 snow. I guess their competitive nature kicked in because they both became interested in her and both began courting her. This is my 1st attempted year at breeding so I was constantly looking for copulation. After reading so many other posts I figured I wouldn't bother them while they were doing their thang even though the tub was starting to look a mess. Well I couldn't take it anymore and once they gave her a break I was going to get that tub cleaned and pull the jungle, deciding to prove the motley out with the snow instead. Well it wasn't pretty when I went to pull her out. Why was she swollen and bleeding? Was two males too much? Was the enclosure too small (74 qt sterilite)? The 1st pic is when I first noticed anything but thought it was a missed shot. Thanks for any enlightenment that can be shed on this.
 

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Looks like she's got some serious swelling and probably an infection of some kind. Definitely take her to the vet asap. Just for future reference, I wouldn't put two males in with one female. The males can get aggressive with each other and can also be aggressive with the female as well. Hopefully with some antibiotics she will be alright. Good luck!
 
The abrasions are from the males spurring
No need to be alarmed its really a minor issue that will
correct it's self with minimal effort on your part.

Just clean her up with some peroxide and cover the
abrasions with neosporin or plain vasilene to
keep the grung/grime out.
 
apreske said:
Looks like she's got some serious swelling and probably an infection of some kind. Definitely take her to the vet asap. Just for future reference, I wouldn't put two males in with one female. The males can get aggressive with each other and can also be aggressive with the female as well. Hopefully with some antibiotics she will be alright. Good luck!
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Metachrosis said:
The abrasions are from the males spurring
No need to be alarmed its really a minor issue that will
correct it's self with minimal effort on your part.

Just clean her up with some peroxide and cover the
abrasions with neosporin or plain vasilene to
keep the grung/grime out.
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Thanks! I think I will try to clean the area with peroxide and use some silver sufadiazine to treat it in the meantime.
 
Be careful what you use to treat reptiles with,avoid medications that have pain relieving properties.Applying a Triple A ointment first would be best as the sufadiazine is burn treatment that is poorly absorbed but is a good protection barrier.

Peroxide is pretty harsh,after the initial clean up I wouldn't use it again
for a good while. Chlorhexidine-G solution can also be used for cleanup.
 
The Candoia species I keep indulge in "multiple male" breeding groups, and when they were in the full flurry, the most active males wore their scales away immediately above the spurs.

I do think that competition eggs them on to be too violent - in future I'm leaving that to the experts and going back to one on one.

I treated my abraded males with daily dilute betadine soaks, but their injured areas were not as extensive as your poor girl's.

Hope she recovers quickly!
 
Metachrosis said:
Be careful what you use to treat reptiles with,avoid medications that have pain relieving properties.Applying a Triple A ointment first would be best as the sufadiazine is burn treatment that is poorly absorbed but is a good protection barrier.

Peroxide is pretty harsh,after the initial clean up I wouldn't use it again
for a good while. Chlorhexidine-G solution can also be used for cleanup.
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I squeezed most of the puss out. The stench was horrible. I cant say the I was moderate with the peroxide. I did use a triple antibiotic. Sufadiazine would have to be prescribed by the vet. Thanks for all you guys help. I really hope she pulls through, litter or not.
 
Your description wasn't clear on a time frame the breeding attempts had taken place
The swelling in the pics didn't depict such an advanced condition suggesting "bacterial infection"aka;pus

That advanced state didnt happen over night nor with in a weeks time.
Your animals condition is well advanced and should be addressed with DVM and much more aggressive meds in order to turn it back in the snakes favor.
 
Metachrosis said:
Your description wasn't clear on a time frame the breeding attempts had taken place
The swelling in the pics didn't depict such an advanced condition suggesting "bacterial infection"aka;pus

That advanced state didnt happen over night nor with in a weeks time.
Your animals condition is well advanced and should be addressed with DVM and much more aggressive meds in order to turn it back in the snakes favor.
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These are pics taken this evening and they look worse than before. The pics are timed stamped, fyi. I believe a trip to the vet is necessary also.
 

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Sadly I have to report that she didn't make it. I caught the problem too late and I'm assuming the infection had already set in before I even noticed there was a problem. I was expecting a nice litter from her in this, my first breeding project. I must say that it is my own inexperience that has brought me to this undesirable outcome; but it is definately a lesson learned. Thanks for all of your quick responses.
 
I'm so sorry to hear she did not make it. It is unfortunate that reptile knowledge always seems to come with such a high price. :-( RIP, big girl.
 
I'm so sorry to hear that she didn't make it. I was hoping she would pull through.
 
Sorry for your loss. Sucks to lose a critter, especially under the circumstances.

For future reference, you placed a lot of extra stress on that female by letting both males have their way with her. Stress is the number one killer of Boids. Stress causes the immune system to be less efficient, and things (bacteria) they may harbor, keeping in check when healthy, go rampant when stress levels increase. Babies ain't worth all the extra risk. Try a shed from another male next time, instead of the animal itself.
 
I am sorry to hear of your loss Phil. This is definitely something good to be posted to aid others with there breeding projects. I did want to add something about adding the second male, I have done this in the past but it is usually only for a couple days, at the most. Occasionally I will find a male that is being lazy, adding in a second male sometimes only for a couple hours has been enough to provoke him into breeding. Definitely gotta keep a close eye on them though. Best of luck with your other projects.
 
Thanks everyone! Definately a lesson learned. Hopefully someone else new to breeding, or boas in general will read this and learn what not to do; unfortunately its at my expense. I was hoping for a jungle motley litter and proving that girl out but I'll be content with a moonglow litter this year. Once again, thanks for all the condolences.
 
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