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is this a terrazzo?

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Hi everyone, so heres my problem, i traded my woma ball python for these 2 corn snakes, both female, and the guy said that one was a bloodred rootbeer, and one was a terrazzo, well, the terrazzo has a clear belly and red striped down its sides and by its head, but someone says the bloodred isnt a bloodred at all and the terrazzo might be something different as well

i would like some help if at all possible. thanks

if i was able to i would add more photos, but i dont know how to add more then 4
 

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Yep, looks like you got taken for a ride. That one is definitely a normal
 
okay so bad news all around, but hey its okay, they are both beautiful snakes, the brownish grey one is nice, overall im not in it for the money when it comes to corn snakes, thanks for helping out
 
okay so bad news all around, but hey its okay, they are both beautiful snakes, the brownish grey one is nice, overall im not in it for the money when it comes to corn snakes, thanks for helping out

Hi Heather,....

Gosh, who the heck was this guy that traded you those snakes?, I think everyone in the entire hobby would benefit from staying away from this guy in the future. You can PM me this info if you would rather....thanks!

It is just fine if you are happy with the snakes, but the guy was so far off on what they were it is just ridiculous. He's either the most ignorant breeder/seller in the hobby (but of course there are plenty..LOL!), or he is one of the most deceitful guys in the hobby (again, there are plenty), or a combination of both. (probably the latter).


cheers, ~Doug


~Doug
 
Hi Heather,....

Gosh, who the heck was this guy that traded you those snakes?, I think everyone in the entire hobby would benefit from staying away from this guy in the future. You can PM me this info if you would rather....thanks!

It is just fine if you are happy with the snakes, but the guy was so far off on what they were it is just ridiculous. He's either the most ignorant breeder/seller in the hobby (but of course there are plenty..LOL!), or he is one of the most deceitful guys in the hobby (again, there are plenty), or a combination of both. (probably the latter).


cheers, ~Doug


~Doug

the only info i have is that hes 17, he lives in california, and i have his number but would rather not post such information, hes dealing with another breeder in long beach area, named brian. and something about gecko world or somthing.

He is trying to pass a couple geckos as giant tremors, and now he has some skinks and says they are green sided skinks. when i called him on it, he blew up, and now is saying he has a lot better reptiles then i do, if thats the case i just want to know why he was begging to trade with me so badly. anyways
i would like everyone to be safe and stay away but if anyone trying to deal with him is smart enough, they can tell to stear clear im sure.
 
Thought they looked familiar...

I'm very sorry to hear that you got scammed like that. It's unfortunate, but hopefully you can contact the previous owner and set things right! :yesnod:

Not meaning to preach here - but I think this is a good reminder of why proper research and double checking are so important before you buy/sell.

... the guy was so far off on what they were it is just ridiculous. He's either the most ignorant breeder/seller in the hobby (but of course there are plenty..LOL!) ...

The worst part about mislabeling is that as long as folks don't do proper research, the cycle continues. :(

Now I'm honestly not trying to point fingers Heather, but I believe I've seen you try to sell these animals for a week or so now on Craigslist right? (I'm assuming it's you since your unique, homemade rack/ASF ads on here match exactly what's on there) I kept seeing them reposted, you had the normal/bloodred rootbeer valued at $250 and the stripe/terrazzo at $180.
I'm guessing someone finally messaged you telling you about the mistake...?

This was yesterday's ad.
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It's easy to imagine someone not taking the time to point the mistake out to you or that person simply not being around. Then it's possible that some unknowing buyer could take your ad at face value and continue the chain of lies. Intentional or not. :ack2:

That's why I just think it's so important to be sure of what you have or better yet - what you're getting.
I'm glad this was cleared up before it sold like that again at least~

BTW In case anyone's wondering why I didn't point the mistake out to her when she first started, that's because I'm not familiar with corn morphs and have no intention of buying any. I only checked the ad to see the racks. :blush:
 
it has yet to be a week but yes i was going to sell them, i had no idea of what to value anything at, and now that i know what they are i do have to edit everything, thanks for reminding me. the only person that emailed me asked why everything is at retail prices, i dont know how to respond to that, everything i have listed is listed as OBRO, but the big issue now is that i need to update those.

Thanks everyone, hell, i know no one needs to believe me, however since i found out, even if someone did email me about then i would tell them they arent that.

Someone texted me not long before i posted and said the red one looks like a normal. so i posted here and found out i was indeed wrong.

im just glad someone who knew told me the information i needed before i went and made more mistakes.
 
normal/bloodred rootbeer valued at $250 and the stripe/terrazzo at $180. [/QUOTE said:
sorry but no i had them listed at lower prices with the higher price being trade value and the bloodred was the lower price, of course now that i know better it will be corrected
 
*head scratch* I'm not 100% sure on the dates, but I know I saw it on the 18th at least since I discussed it with a friend then. I had sent her a link to your older ad, but it doesn't work anymore. It says you got flagged for some reason. (CL folks do that) :shrug01:
I can say with certainty that you're definitely right about the prices, that was my mistake and I apologize. :eek:

From the ad
"0.1 adult bloodred rootbeer corn snake, 140 or trade value 180
0.1 adult terrazzo corn snake, 200 or trade value 250"

*end nitpicking* Like I said though, I'm really just glad it was pointed out instead of accidentally being passed on again like that. :yesnod: I've seen it happen before with mislabeled hets and hybrids, it's always such trouble for everyone involved then. :ack2:
 
*head scratch* I'm not 100% sure on the dates, but I know I saw it on the 18th at least since I discussed it with a friend then. I had sent her a link to your older ad, but it doesn't work anymore. It says you got flagged for some reason. (CL folks do that) :shrug01:
I can say with certainty that you're definitely right about the prices, that was my mistake and I apologize. :eek:

From the ad
"0.1 adult bloodred rootbeer corn snake, 140 or trade value 180
0.1 adult terrazzo corn snake, 200 or trade value 250"

*end nitpicking* Like I said though, I'm really just glad it was pointed out instead of accidentally being passed on again like that. :yesnod: I've seen it happen before with mislabeled hets and hybrids, it's always such trouble for everyone involved then. :ack2:

yeah i dont want to imagine what would happen to the market then, i have edited my posting xD haha, but when i think about it, it is possible it was over a week ago, the kids been texting me for quite a while asking to trade so its completely possible, please excuse my horrible conception of time lol
 
Its nots Heathers fault that some kid is trying to pull a scam. I saw the AD and I texted her on it I wasnt trying to be rude I just love the reptile industry and thought she was just another person trying to scam newbies on CL but I come to find out she wasnt. She is just looking for a good home for her reptiles it happens to much where people pass on wrong info cause they were not correctly informed. Thats why these forums are so great they give everyone a chance to learn and be better informed. It would be Heathers fault if she left up the AD as bloodred and Terrazzo but she didnt. Good Luck Heather in getting rid of your reptiles and I would post the guys info in the BOI so no one else will deal with him.
 
if i could get a link to where to post, ive been on this site for a lil while but i still only know so much, he hasnt texted me since thank goodness, but it was a long arguement, just everyone watch out for someone who texts with extra letters in almost every word. something like this as an example of a text i got

"Heyyy, I havee a breedingg pairr of Green Sided Skinks, theyree 3 yrs old and are proven breeders, gonnaa startt mating on february,"

me "send pics"
"by the way, the "bloodred" is a normal corn snake"

him "No, its a bloodred rootbeer, the guyy at the reptile expo said it was, i showed him a pic of it and he confirmed it,"

me "its not, a rootbeer is a hybrid between a rat snake and a corn snake, and shes not red, shes orange and from the aggression might be a male."

him "wtf? Haha where did you find this out?"

me "by a corn snake breeder"
"as well as vmsherp.com/lccornnames.htm "

him "dangg, then the guyy at crested gecko doesnt know sh^tt,!! lol he said it was a blood red rootbeer, sorryy about that i was going of a pro breeder, my badd!"

me "well the "pro breeder" was going off a picture, if you took it in in person they would have known, so what are you going to do to make up for it being a normal?"

him "well i neverr kneww so whyy am i getting blamed for this??"

me "because you insisted that you werent lieing and that they were what you said they were, you should have made sure before you did anything with them"
"and those are not green sided skinks"

him "omg, i got them from a breeder in LB his name is bryan,!! and thats what the breeder told me the snake was and i insisted about the geckos not the snake,"

me "you claimed they were what you said, thats what you did wrong, and ive heard about bryan, hes not a great person to work with because he does what you do, sell things as something they arent" ((i was going by what lb reptiles only, dave, told me, if this is untrue, i appologize))

him "he knowss wayy more aboutt youu,!! and he actuallyy knowss aboutt reptiles unlike you!"

me "okay sure, you go deal with him then, you aint gettin any more from me"

him "youu swearr likee youu gott goodd thingss, yourr sh^tt suckss, andd youu dontt knoww anythingg aboutt reptiless, im 17 and know wayy more, thats embarrassing!"

me "oh im to sure, you know more? and yet you cant even get proof from a varifiable source that your sh^t is even real"

him "i knoww wayy moree!! andd okayy woww, i cant get prof, i still havee better reptiles than you, go get a f@cken lifee youu f@cken loser!"

me "alright, this coming from someone who cant even write without putting extra letters in every word? okay, you need ssi you have mental retardation, if you have such great animals, why were you practically begging to trade with me"

him "retardation?? lol have youu looked in a mirror youu f@ckend idiot, and because i would have ripped yourr dumb@ss off, youu dumb b!tch!!"

me "hello?! you did dip sh^t, jokes on you i didnt want or like the woma, and by the way, your lucky, my fiance would have fought you, your dad being there or not."

him "wow two corn snakes, theyre not worth sh^t, and a woma is worth more then those corn snakes, fought me for what? tell thatt foo to go playy MW3"

me "uh huh, your a dumb @ss you know that? go try to rip somone else off, your not worth my time"

ugh okay, sorry i cant keep going, my brain feels scrambled just reading his texts x.x basically if i kept going he was insulting me like crazy, but in the end he got scared and stopped because i told him not to come around me when he turns 18.

sorry for the long dialog, anyone who reads it anyway, i know no one probably will though xD maybe only a couple bits
 
if i could get a link to where to post, ive been on this site for a lil while but i still only know so much, he hasnt texted me since thank goodness, but it was a long arguement, just everyone watch out for someone who texts with extra letters in almost every word. something like this as an example of a text i got

"Heyyy, I havee a breedingg pairr of Green Sided Skinks, theyree 3 yrs old and are proven breeders, gonnaa startt mating on february,"

me "send pics"
"by the way, the "bloodred" is a normal corn snake"

him "No, its a bloodred rootbeer, the guyy at the reptile expo said it was, i showed him a pic of it and he confirmed it,"

me "its not, a rootbeer is a hybrid between a rat snake and a corn snake, and shes not red, shes orange and from the aggression might be a male."

him "wtf? Haha where did you find this out?"

me "by a corn snake breeder"
"as well as vmsherp.com/lccornnames.htm "

him "dangg, then the guyy at crested gecko doesnt know sh^tt,!! lol he said it was a blood red rootbeer, sorryy about that i was going of a pro breeder, my badd!"

me "well the "pro breeder" was going off a picture, if you took it in in person they would have known, so what are you going to do to make up for it being a normal?"

him "well i neverr kneww so whyy am i getting blamed for this??"

me "because you insisted that you werent lieing and that they were what you said they were, you should have made sure before you did anything with them"
"and those are not green sided skinks"

him "omg, i got them from a breeder in LB his name is bryan,!! and thats what the breeder told me the snake was and i insisted about the geckos not the snake,"

me "you claimed they were what you said, thats what you did wrong, and ive heard about bryan, hes not a great person to work with because he does what you do, sell things as something they arent" ((i was going by what lb reptiles only, dave, told me, if this is untrue, i appologize))

him "he knowss wayy more aboutt youu,!! and he actuallyy knowss aboutt reptiles unlike you!"

me "okay sure, you go deal with him then, you aint gettin any more from me"

him "youu swearr likee youu gott goodd thingss, yourr sh^tt suckss, andd youu dontt knoww anythingg aboutt reptiless, im 17 and know wayy more, thats embarrassing!"

me "oh im to sure, you know more? and yet you cant even get proof from a varifiable source that your sh^t is even real"

him "i knoww wayy moree!! andd okayy woww, i cant get prof, i still havee better reptiles than you, go get a f@cken lifee youu f@cken loser!"

me "alright, this coming from someone who cant even write without putting extra letters in every word? okay, you need ssi you have mental retardation, if you have such great animals, why were you practically begging to trade with me"

him "retardation?? lol have youu looked in a mirror youu f@ckend idiot, and because i would have ripped yourr dumb@ss off, youu dumb b!tch!!"

me "hello?! you did dip sh^t, jokes on you i didnt want or like the woma, and by the way, your lucky, my fiance would have fought you, your dad being there or not."

him "wow two corn snakes, theyre not worth sh^t, and a woma is worth more then those corn snakes, fought me for what? tell thatt foo to go playy MW3"

me "uh huh, your a dumb @ss you know that? go try to rip somone else off, your not worth my time"

ugh okay, sorry i cant keep going, my brain feels scrambled just reading his texts x.x basically if i kept going he was insulting me like crazy, but in the end he got scared and stopped because i told him not to come around me when he turns 18.

sorry for the long dialog, anyone who reads it anyway, i know no one probably will though xD maybe only a couple bits
 
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Thank you
 
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Thank you

Okay, thank you, is there anyone that can take it out until im able to? since i cant right now, and i did not post his name or number. if anyone can remove it, if its not already been removed, i would appreciate the help.
 
if i could get a link to where to post, ive been on this site for a lil while but i still only know so much, he hasnt texted me since thank goodness, but it was a long arguement, just everyone watch out for someone who texts with extra letters in almost every word. something like this as an example of a text i got

"Heyyy, I havee a breedingg pairr of Green Sided Skinks, theyree 3 yrs old and are proven breeders, gonnaa startt mating on february,"

me "send pics"
"by the way, the "bloodred" is a normal corn snake"

him "No, its a bloodred rootbeer, the guyy at the reptile expo said it was, i showed him a pic of it and he confirmed it,"

me "its not, a rootbeer is a hybrid between a rat snake and a corn snake, and shes not red, shes orange and from the aggression might be a male."

him "wtf? Haha where did you find this out?"

me "by a corn snake breeder"
"as well as vmsherp.com/lccornnames.htm "

him "dangg, then the guyy at crested gecko doesnt know sh^tt,!! lol he said it was a blood red rootbeer, sorryy about that i was going of a pro breeder, my badd!"

me "well the "pro breeder" was going off a picture, if you took it in in person they would have known, so what are you going to do to make up for it being a normal?"

him "well i neverr kneww so whyy am i getting blamed for this??"

me "because you insisted that you werent lieing and that they were what you said they were, you should have made sure before you did anything with them"
"and those are not green sided skinks"

him "omg, i got them from a breeder in LB his name is bryan,!! and thats what the breeder told me the snake was and i insisted about the geckos not the snake,"

me "you claimed they were what you said, thats what you did wrong, and ive heard about bryan, hes not a great person to work with because he does what you do, sell things as something they arent" ((i was going by what lb reptiles only, dave, told me, if this is untrue, i appologize))

him "he knowss wayy more aboutt youu,!! and he actuallyy knowss aboutt reptiles unlike you!"

me "okay sure, you go deal with him then, you aint gettin any more from me"

him "youu swearr likee youu gott goodd thingss, yourr sh^tt suckss, andd youu dontt knoww anythingg aboutt reptiless, im 17 and know wayy more, thats embarrassing!"

me "oh im to sure, you know more? and yet you cant even get proof from a varifiable source that your sh^t is even real"

him "i knoww wayy moree!! andd okayy woww, i cant get prof, i still havee better reptiles than you, go get a f@cken lifee youu f@cken loser!"

me "alright, this coming from someone who cant even write without putting extra letters in every word? okay, you need ssi you have mental retardation, if you have such great animals, why were you practically begging to trade with me"

him "retardation?? lol have youu looked in a mirror youu f@ckend idiot, and because i would have ripped yourr dumb@ss off, youu dumb b!tch!!"

me "hello?! you did dip sh^t, jokes on you i didnt want or like the woma, and by the way, your lucky, my fiance would have fought you, your dad being there or not."

him "wow two corn snakes, theyre not worth sh^t, and a woma is worth more then those corn snakes, fought me for what? tell thatt foo to go playy MW3"

me "uh huh, your a dumb @ss you know that? go try to rip somone else off, your not worth my time"

ugh okay, sorry i cant keep going, my brain feels scrambled just reading his texts x.x basically if i kept going he was insulting me like crazy, but in the end he got scared and stopped because i told him not to come around me when he turns 18.

sorry for the long dialog, anyone who reads it anyway, i know no one probably will though xD maybe only a couple bits

Wow okay now I have a headache. Between the misspelling and the name calling, I don't think I would deal with either party involved. This almost seems like it should be in the BOI.:yesnod:
 
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