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http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...d=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=2233&pn=3155

Contact the following to let them know.

Gary Haluska
114 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202073
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2073
(717) 787-3532
Fax: (717) 783-7548

Hon. Joseph F. Brennan
25A East Wing
PO Box 202133
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2133
(717) 772-9902
Fax: (717) 772-2284

Hon. Mike Carroll
527E Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202118
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2118
(717) 787-3589
Fax: (717) 780-4763

Hon. H. Scott Conklin
325 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202077
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2077
(717) 787-9473
Fax: (717) 780-4764

Hon. Peter J. Daley
214 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202049
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2049
(717) 783-9333
Fax: (717) 783-7558

Hon. Gordon Denlinger
211 Ryan Office Building
PO Box 202099
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2099
(717) 787-3531
Fax: (717) 705-1951

Hon. Garth D. Everett
430 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202084
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2084
(717) 787-5270
Fax: (717) 772-9958

Hon. Neal P. Goodman
G07 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202123
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2123
(717) 787-2798
Fax: (717) 772-9948

Hon. Eddie Day Pashinski
203 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202121
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2121
(717) 783-0686
Fax: (717) 772-2284

Hon. Curtis G. Sonney
149B East Wing
PO Box 202004
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2004
(717) 783-9087
Fax: (717) 787-2005

Hon. Jerry Stern
315A Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202080
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2080
(717) 787-9020
Fax: (717) 787-2420

this bill is goin to the same games and fisheries committees as 2063 but here are the names and numbers again

Hon. John R. Evans
107 Ryan Office Building
PO Box 202005
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2005
(717) 772-9940
Fax: (717) 772-7099

Hon. Todd Rock
162A East Wing
PO Box 202090
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2090
(717) 783-5218
Fax: (717) 260-6505

Hon. Kurt A. Masser
414 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202107
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2107
(717) 260-6134
Fax: (717) 787-9463

Hon. Bryan Cutler
147A East Wing
PO Box 202100
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2100
(717) 783-6424
Fax: (717) 772-9859

Hon. Joe Emrick
160B East Wing
PO Box 202137
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2137
(717) 260-6159

Hon. Garth D. Everett
430 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202084
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2084
(717) 787-5270
Fax: (717) 772-9958

Hon. Keith Gillespie
45 East Wing
PO Box 202047
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2047
(717) 705-7167
Fax: (717) 772-9869

Hon. Marcia M. Hahn
402 A Irvis Office Building
P O Box 202138
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2138
(717) 783-8573
Fax: (717) 783-3899

Hon. Doyle Heffley
423 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202122
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2122
(717) 260-6139

Hon. Mark K. Keller
5 East Wing
PO Box 202086
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2086
(717) 783-1593
Fax: (717) 705-7012

Hon. David M. Maloney Sr.
6A East Wing
PO Box 202130
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2130
(717) 260-6161

Hon. Dan Moul
G32 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202091
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2091
(717) 783-5217
Fax: (717) 772-5499

Hon. Michael Peifer
153A East Wing
PO Box 202139
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2139
(717) 783-2037
Fax: (717) 705-1948

Hon. Jeffrey P. Pyle
147B East Wing
PO Box 202060
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2060
(717) 783-5327
Fax: (717) 260-6511

Hon. Mike Reese
163A East Wing
PO Box 202059
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2059
(717) 783-9311
Fax: (717) 260-6502

Hon. Edward G. Staback
225 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202115
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2115
(717) 783-5043
Fax: (717) 787-1231

Hon. Kevin P. Murphy
G01 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202113
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2113
(717) 787-8981
(877) 841-1450 Toll Free
Fax: (717) 705-1958

Hon. Gerald J. Mullery
115B East Wing
PO Box 202119
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2119
(717) 783-4893

Hon. Angel Cruz
528E Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202180
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2180
(717) 787-1407
Fax: (717) 780-4769

Hon. H. William DeWeese
331 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202050
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2050
(717) 783-3797
Fax: (717) 772-3605

Hon. Marc J. Gergely
325 Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202035
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2035
(717) 783-1018
Fax: (717) 780-4779

Hon. Gary Haluska
114 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202073
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2073
(717) 787-3532
Fax: (717) 783-7548

Hon. John Hornaman
27B East Wing
PO Box 202003
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2003
(717) 772-2297
Fax: (717) 780-4767

Hon. Deberah Kula
G05 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202052
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2052
(717) 772-1858
Fax: (717) 780-4784

Hon. Tim Mahoney
324 Main Capitol
PO Box 202051
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2051
(717) 772-2174
Fax: (717) 780-4786
 
I know, I'm in very serious consideration to moving to SC or a 3rd world country in Africa where I can take power and create a reptile friendly country... but perhaps I've said too much already lol
 
I'm constantly attacked by my crested geckos and snakes. Everytime I open the cage they ruthlessly beat me with a baseball bat.... The beatings usually stop after I give them my wallet and ipod.
 
This is frickin BS, what are they going to do come to your house to see if the animals are properly taken care of and if they don't think so they can take them?

25$ annual fee for keeping and 200$ for dealing? So if I breed and have several clutches do I have to pay 25$ for each animal in addition to 200$ every year if I want to sell them?
 
I think the breeders permit would cover the hatchlings. However to get any permit someone would have to inspect the premises and pass you. And how trained are these people going to be as far as what secure is? A rack is secure but they may insist on aquariums with screen tops that "latch".
The really scary part is you need a permit in order to buy any exotic before you can purchase it. I can see alot of small businesses and shows shutting down because of this and again to get a permit in the first place you need an inspection, so your son wants a $5 anole, you have to pay $25 for that permit and wait for an inspection before you can run to the local pet shop to buy a now $30 anole.
 
Keep in mind...not just reptiles...all animals listed are everything but cats and dogs and what you can see in the wild....so Goldfish, Betta, salt water fish...so every fish you see in a pet store, gerbil, hamsters, ferrets, all small animals, all species of birds....finches to red wing macaw every single animal you can buy in a pet store will be included....all will need permits..... Nonindigenous....means every single living thing but native species...but cats and dogs will be safe because they are considered and acceptable pet.
Travis
 
This is so stupid. I feel for all of you in PA.
Just a matter of time I'm sure till it gets to my state. :(
 
That's ridiculous...a permit for a COCKATIEL?? That's not an EXOTIC pet! It's a common one.
Parakeets, finches, lovebirds, canaries...all common birds. Hamsters, rabbits, guinea pigs, gerbils...not considered exotics by normal people.


EXOTICS around here are considered reptiles, chinchillas, ferrets, sugar gliders, flying squirrels, frogs...
 
Nonindigenous....just the opposite of this:
in·dig·e·nous (n-dj-ns)
adj.
1. Originating and living or occurring naturally in an area or environment. See Synonyms at native.
2. Intrinsic; innate.
Never seen in the wild....Parakeets, finches, lovebirds, canaries...all common birds. Hamsters, rabbits, guinea pigs, gerbils...not considered exotics by normal people.

If its good for one species lets keep it fair for all...not fair to just list reptiles....birds have a better chance in the wild as do rodents. We all know its to cold here in the wild for most reptiles to survive. I say list them all and maybe enough owners of everything will step forward to fight it...reptile owners are to small of a community...but list everything and everyone will fight.
Travis
 
The wording in the law states
Amending Title 30 (Fish) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated

2
Statutes, providing for nonindigenous and exotic reptile and

3
amphibian possession permits

which I take as being a law only for herps since it says "nonindigenous and exotic reptile and amphibian"

I dont think this has any affect on other animals although it should considering other animals (horses, dogs, cats...) have proven to be more dangerous and more costly to native wildlife.
 
As one can see, most of this has come to light most recently since the problems in Florida, and the addition of several species to the lacey act. Now, I know a lot of small towns and municipality have enacted local legislation regarding reptile ownership and exhibition in the past. Most of those in our general area have seemingly stemmed from incidences from irresponsible owners, and have only mildly affected those responsible owners in those particular areas.

Now, it seems that every state wants to hop on the ban wagon. If I am correct, I believe that most, if not all governing forces for fish and wildlife in Pa, come out of the Harrisburg office. If anyone has been watching the news for the past 6 months plus, I am sure you have seen or heard about all of the financial problems Harrisburg is facing. It is financially broke and cannot meet its own payroll. It has had to hire outside sources to manage their funds and finances. The mayor is constantly at odds with fellow council members, and the city itself is I believe headed for federal bankruptcy court. Now I realize that this pertains to harrisburg city, but it also reflects upon the state government.

I guess my thinking on all of this is, with the world itself in a state of poor economy, gas prices on the rise, terrorism what it is and the list goes on. Who is going to pay for all of this, who is going to pay for the education of the so-called (governing body), who is going to pay their salaries. Where is this coming from, I ask? TAXPAYER $

Last time I checked, we at some point elect these people into office, and we the taxpayers pay their salaries. Why is it that we tolerate paying someone to tell us what we can and cannot do.

If the reptile community comes together to be heard, floods the office with phone calls, emails. Go to the public meetings and hearings I think at some time it will become very overwhelming and possibly more then they bargained for.

I had a good friend tell me once when it came to a good fight, I may lose, but I'm not going to make it easy for you, and your never gonna forget me
 
gandabrenzo said:
The wording in the law states
Amending Title 30 (Fish) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated

2
Statutes, providing for nonindigenous and exotic reptile and

3
amphibian possession permits

which I take as being a law only for herps since it says "nonindigenous and exotic reptile and amphibian"

I dont think this has any affect on other animals although it should considering other animals (horses, dogs, cats...) have proven to be more dangerous and more costly to native wildlife.
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this law does not cause a law that bans almost all nonnatives(including dogs and cats btw) is already introduced and passed the house so far.
 
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