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Anyone working with Jim Kane "undescribed" milks?

Scott Ballard

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These used to be available a few years ago, and I'm having trouble locating them. Any help finding these or info on anyone still working with them would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Scott
 
Bumping this ......as its a worthy bump.....Somebody had to buy some of these things!!!
Where are you????
 
I am updating this thread with a good representative picture so that maybe someone will recognize this milksnake or it may look familiar to someone who may have one or more of them. Incidentally, 'This image is owned and copyrighted by Jim Kane. Used with permission. All rights reserved.'

These were available from time to time between roughly 1996-2002, so it hasn't been that long ago. I am interested in purchasing any of these that may be available, be it only lone animals, or pairs, or groups. You can email me at: [email protected]

Thanks,
Scott
 

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Scott,

I was on Jim's list for those for a couple of years a long while back, but they just never seemed to come available. I would think by now that someone would have officially "described" them.....
 
Rich, thanks for the reply. Some were sold to people, but finding them now seems to be the hard part.

Jim, I did contact him via the website, and he is no longer into the herpetoculture scene. He did give me a couple possible leads as to whom may have some, but those turned up as a dead end also.

That is why I posted the representative picture on the update. Hopefully some people will recognize the picture. Since it was 5-10 years ago that they were available, a lot of people may not know what is meant by the name only.

Thanks,
Scott
 
Some additional undescribed milksnake images

Here are three more images. As Scott mentioned at my request, 'These images are owned and copyrighted by Jim Kane. Used with permission. All rights reserved.' Somebody must still have these, I hope. I'd hate to think such a fantastic animal died out. It took me a few years to get them dialed in, and at first I had to send back a lot of deposits. The don't produce a lot, nothing like an annulata. They are not a cross of any kind, and aren't of the origin that anyone who claims to know about them says they are. They were 100% pure locality animals.
 

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These are awesome Scott I hope you can find them! If they are a true locality thats amazing .. such high yellow on them!
 
Guy those are beautiful animals. If you find some and can get them to produce i know a few people who are interested.
 
Wanted to update this request in that I'm still looking for these, so if anyone has any or knows of any, please send me an email.

Thanks,
Scott
 
It seems to me that if Jim is out of this, he would have at least offered locality data so you could possibly collect your own.
 
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