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Bad Guy Andrew Potts- I want my money back

If a snake you ship arrives dead due to improper shipping you owe the person for the snake, plain and simple. In my opinion if you ship a snake or snakes and they arrive in any other way than live, healthy and feeding, no matter what the reason, you owe the buyer for the snake or snakes. If someone doesen't guarantee the animal they are selling you if there is a problem due to the shipping company or any other reason I would buy from someone else.

I admit I have only skimmed this thread but there is one thing that kept jumping out at me. What do this guys friends have to do with anything. When you sell someone a snake you should only deal with the person you sell the snake to. When his friends contacted you and tried to get involved I would have deleted their emails or ignored them and only dealt with the person you sold the snake to. Any blackmail, accusations or whatever that came from someone else are only a problem (your problem) because you dealt with others than who you should have.
If someone buying a animal from you asks and you agree to ship to a friend or family member of theirs for some reason I could see talking with them just to be sure you have the correct address, they will be there to receive the snake or that the snake arrived OK but any other conversations should be between you and the buyer only.
Some people are not good at telling friends or family to stay out of their business but it's for you to not let others become involved (at least with you ) since they are not your customer. If it's a minor and it's their parent your dealing with that's another matter.

Randy Whittington
 
If anyone has a picture of Andrew, this might be a good place to post it, so people tending shows know what he looks like. This thread speaks for itself as far as his character goes.

Just a thought, since I've never seen a picture of him, this thread may not effect his sales at shows...unless people could put a face to the name.
 
Robert Potts said:
So mad, I copied every single e-mail ever between Sean, Connor, Kevin and myself then I made a boo boo and they were gone. I'll try again tomorrow. Andrew
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Apparently the posting of the promised emails was a smoke screen just like the promised replacement animal.

Andrew and his family have been in this business for a long time. Surprising to see a reputation flushed down the tubes due to petty and childish mulishness.
 
BUMP

I'd hate to see something like this completely stall out and fade from memory at just under 23,000 views. Any updates from the OP?
 
It is a shame to see someone who once had a stellar reputation throw it out the window like this. I contacted Mr. Potts recently to purchase a female aztec or hytec for my VPI T+ projects and then came across this thread and have since purchased else where.

Mr. Potts do the right thing and refund the money and attempt to salvage some of your reputation.
 
I have a feeling Mr. Potts has washed his hands of this thread, it's highly unlikely he cares about saving future sales at this point.
 
This is a comedy of errors that ended tragically with the loss of a beautiful animal that met a horrific, unconscionable end.

The behavior of the "Triad of Extortion" has been Unscrupulous at best and borders akin to felonious. Their actions have been duly noted and I will guide myself accordingly.

What I find equally reprehensible is the manner of which the Potts have addressed this issue and the lack of concern given for the well being of the animal by not observing proper shipping protocol.

The Potts claim to be proud of their project as evidenced by the inflated price tags that they place on their offerings. Their behavior indicates that they care not for their contribution to the industry, moreover, their real motivation is how much money can we milk out of the consumer before we;

A.) Ruin the project.

B.) Damage our reputation to the point that no one will buy from us.

c.) Aztec become so common that they become like hypos......no big deal ( which has been my opinion all along).


Sorry but I call them the way I see them. All involved are shady in my book. There are no winners in this situation. The biggest loser of all is a beautiful, amazing animal that was cooked due to inept shipping and handling.

SHAME ON ALL PARTIES....my 0.02
 
Wow this is crazy! I was about to buy 2
Aztecs from potts but........heck no.
you are a cheap loser. You turned that boa into
boa-bacon. Your at fualt. Own up.
 
ApexPredatorBoids said:
I'd hate to see something like this completely stall out and fade from memory at just under 23,000 views. Any updates from the OP?
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I will give an update in a bit. I am seeking legal action through the Illinois state courts which added a few more hundred ontop of everything. End of May I will be better able to give answers the best I can. To be honest I do not know what I can or can not say so I am keeping things close to my chest now.
 
Back to the top. Do the right thing Mr Potts. You admitted yourself you over heated the package. This animals death is square on you. The way you've dealt with this speaks volumes about your character.

Hope you're feeling the pinch from this.
 
Agreed........Still no excuse for the Triad of Extortion.....The Potts must understand that their project is loosing it's allure and value so they must not care about their reputation or future Aztec sales from their originators.
 
I checked out the Circuit Court website today when they told me to and I see how the certified mail went to Mr Potts house. Now I just need to call them and ask what this legal mumbo jumbo means to me because I have reread it about 3 different times and dont understand it. I will be back in a week or so I suppose.
 
All right, go figure. The address I used to get the checks there did not work for the certified mail which was supposed to serve Andrew Potts. Now I need to head back down to the court house and file some other paperwork which I believe will allow me to choose the day the court case is going to happen.

It has been months and I still have not been able to come up with a reason why you (Andrew) believe you are in the right from withholding me from MY money.

All right faunaclassifieds, I love that you guys have been here listening to this story and I will keep you updated the best I can. Stay tuned for next weeks episode of involving blackmail, fraud, and the courts! /sarcasm
 
Hey does anyone happen to have Andrew Potts address? I want to double check it with the one he gave me months ago. Which means he either gave me a bunk address or he refused to accept the summons by lying and saying he was not Andrew Potts.
 
Baileykm said:
Hey does anyone happen to have Andrew Potts address? I want to double check it with the one he gave me months ago. Which means he either gave me a bunk address or he refused to accept the summons by lying and saying he was not Andrew Potts.
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You may want to think about hiring a sheriff to serve him. You can recoup the cost in court. Or you can hire a private investigator to get what you need if the sheriff can not come up with a valid address.
 
Reverse phone # look up and you should get an address to his phone number. We have some members here that know how to dig that stuff up, maybe one will stop by the thread.
 
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