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Info Kelly Gottberg/KY Reptiles... I'd like your opinion?

Well Tom, I have to apologize. There were several posts made quickly while I read page 3 that I didn't realized had happened. You are correct. She says she offered to buy or trade but no replies.

I have not read the other thread.

Unless Kelly posts the remainder of that conversation showing she truly did try and make this right, I gladly eat mud. I hope you go back through my posts Tom and realize I was disagreeing but was doing so in a civil manner and unless new info come to light, I apologize for missing some key info ;)
 
JColt said:
Well Tom, I have to apologize. There were several posts made quickly while I read page 3 that I didn't realized had happened. You are correct. She says she offered to buy or trade but no replies.

I have not read the other thread.

Unless Kelly posts the remainder of that conversation showing she truly did try and make this right, I gladly eat mud. I hope you go back through my posts Tom and realize I was disagreeing but was doing so in a civil manner and unless new info come to light, I apologize for missing some key info ;)
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That is large of you Joe! I think Tom will appreciate that, he was upset the last I talked to him about the "Vet comments" that you had made earlier?

Tom has told me stories of breeding snakes on accident in his single digit years as a child, with his Mom, lol? She, was the one that started it all for him when he was younger, and he has picture albums to prove his dedication to the cause...

I don't doubt a word he has told me, he is honest, fair, genuine, nice, until cornered, and tells it like it is. When Tom goes to his Vet, they sell him the tools to do this for a snake for life, they have done initial administrations at the office, and he did the followups to save everybody money and time.

He DOES have some crazy looking tools that I have seen him use on snakes! I guess that will be evidenced when the thread on Samantha gets updated on that snake. I am not sure what the detailed plan of attack for that snake will be, but, he mentioned he has one, and, I bet it works!
 
I have to admit until I went back and read posts that I had missed, I thought this was a face book drama revenge post. I'm glad it's not. Just a quickie off topic. I can still see my moms face when I was 11 yrs old and walking into the back yard with a 5 foot plus eastern diamond back, lol.
 
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I have to admit until I went back and read posts that I had missed, I thought this was a face book drama revenge post. I'm glad it's not. Just a quickie off topic. I can still see my moms face when I was 11 yrs old and walking into the back yard with a 5 foot plus eastern diamond back, lol.
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Thank you Joe! I apologize and appreciate that! This was ridiculous! I wish it upon nobody!

Kelly, please answer some of these questions?
 
Got my answers I wanted... Still no screenshots of Kelly's blatant disregard to a customer with an issue, AKA the reply texts from her, but I assure you she blew me right off.. She had her measly $125. Here is the answers to some of my questions.. Well, actually just the one in regards to weight.

Here's the funny part.. I can't get YOU an update photo right now, because I am trickling mice and rats into her to get her feeling better after what I have recently learned about her life. But, this snake EATS. And, she eats well! I have her on a path to success, I promise, and I will update this thread right here with her progress and a constant reminder about Kelly's in the industry, cuz, they are out there in droves.

So, my point is this, 197 grams at 13 months old. You know what that means, right? The snake is not sick, I checked that... Here's the synopsis:

Not only does everything Kelly say stink; she stinks, she lies, and she DOESN'T have what it takes to maintain what she has, IMHO. I saw a 500 gram Granite that day too, I swear, it needed 200 plus grams on it right away, it was that thin. I could, and would venture to say, it needed 400-500 grams on it, now that I have proof of how LOW she goes with her crybaby antics, and with the way her 'friends' keep snakes etc. etc! It must be a team effort by them to let snakes starve themselves out to save money?

So, in the end, I hope you love her/Kelly enough, because she floated right to the top here in Az. like something that just would not flush, if you catch my drift.. I sat back and thought maybe I'll grab a Granite off of her, when in the end, I bought the snake out of mercy, because if it were in a retail enviro.; Idda walked on! Least I get to save another life outta the deal. I'll enjoy that I guess!

Also, next time, you see somebody posting wild about how 'neat' your animals are and googoo and gaagaa over every post in the discussion forum... Remember, you may have a Samantha or Kelly, or Kaitlin in your midst. A bully, a pretender, and a low life con artist with sickly animals, with poor feeding habits, and they can barely afford to feed themselves let alone animal's (plural).

Did I miss anything, or do I seem like a bad guy myself for ousting these three in a rough fashion? Is it because they are girls? No! I love girls, Christ, I think more Women are tougher than Men out there, and that is a honest estimate... But, these two or 3, are bad news! I promise!

Here it is, she said a couple times that this snake ate fine.. Now it's this, then it's that, then this, then that.... BOTTOM LINE... The poor damn thing is 13 months and 197 grams. That is SOLID and in stone! It's sad too!

FWIW: TO ANYBODY TRYING TO LEARN.. THE SCREENSHOTS YOU HAVE SEEN IN THIS THREAD AND THE SAMANTHA WALTERS THREAD! THIS IS WHAT YOU DO NOT DO TO PEOPLE!
 

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Tom, you're posts about you being so high and mighty are ridiculous. This is your girl being so hateful to Kelly. This is LOW. People can take what they want from this, but this is hateful and childish.

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Yay for the needless drama aspects of this....edit that stuff next time Samantha...even posting pics of someone else cursing is gonna get you some owie points here from a Mod...either way...I think the mods would prefer the drama part of this to stay on Facebook...since posts like that are not allowed here anyway
 
First off, I am sick of them Precious Tom! Second off, they have no clue what they are doing with their snakes? Our babies will be as big as the Granite in no time. Why can't Kelly answer, or, are you on 'clean-up' duty now serving your Master?

I bet if you two spent as much time taking care of your reptile room as you do on Facebook, everybody's animals would be fine right now. I am really concerned about what is going on at both of your houses? Sick and starved animals? No way!
 
LOL eddie, as a fellow New Yorker I gotta say amen to that. I think we've reached a crossroads here. Tom and Brandy she's not gonna admit to any wrong doing is unable to "hop-scotch" herself out of this one. At the end of the day, all I'm concerned about is the health and well being of this snake. Always remember this, these animals did not ask to be in our homes. We put them there, so let's make sure we provide them with the best husbandry possible and let's put all the childish stuff where it belongs...Not in here.
 
I had no choice in posting that. Tom and Brandy think they are so high and mighty. They say we have crappy attitudes and we are childish. But if you think what Brandy said is right there is something wrong with you..
 
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I had no choice in posting that. Tom and Brandy think they are so high and mighty. They say we have crappy attitudes and we are childish. But if you think what Brandy said is right there is something wrong with you..
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So, how are you going to help Daniel with that snake?

I have a snippet to post too, as soon as I get some approval, so no 3rd party stuff. You will love it Jose, the snake will be bulletproof in 'no time' at all, I will get update shots soon, I promise that.

I have an answer on the snake from one of my 'made up' Vet friends.. I found out that I have four that I call friends. I forgot one!

He has a synopsis written up, he sent it to me, it's kinda neat, like a $100 visit in a text message for nothing, I love stuff like that.

I WILL buy him a nice lunch, if he will allow me ;). I found it very important, and it explains everything. I hope to post that real soon, as we all will learn something.

AND THEN SAMANTHA! Guess what I am doing next, after this post.. I am calling Daniel, right away, and I am traveling to his house, to take a peek at YOUR old female, I will address everything while I am there..

It's an honor system Samantha. You did me wrong, you did him wrong, you did Brandy wrong, you did the snake wrong....... and I am going to go and clean up your mess! Yo comprendo? Have a great night!

(Now go address your thread you earned so graciously! Offer a payment plan, apologize... Take the higher road, start now...)
 
Well, I don't think the DOC needs to be tied to this, but if anybody EVER wants a professional out of Texas for any reason in the business, he could assist I'm sure. I am sure I remember him telling me to send him stuff for "feek" exams anytime. I'm pretty sure he would do that for a fee anytime. Here it is, copy pasted from my inbox, from a pro:


Hey there my friend. was looking at your pictures and though my Supervet vision isn't what it used to be, those wounds don't look like a typical direct traumatic wound from a bite but instead, look like the remnants of a small abscessed area or the remnant of a vesicle that had burst....btw, both of which could have been the result of a bite wound or trauma to the underlying bone. Just my observation, thought you would find it interesting and hopefully helpful. Your friend, always Doc.
 
for Willow...Tom was not being deceptive...that was the exact post (unredacted and unedited) that I sent him this evening after looking at the pictures in his post. Now, I havene't read the entire post and I'm not going to, the inevitable drama is not germane to the pictures that he posted of the snake and would have possilbly biased my observations. For the record, my name is attached to this post.

For everyone else, I have never met Tom, have never had any phone conversations with Tom but have exchanged about 2 or 3 PM's over the last year or two. That said, after reading countless numbers of his posts here on Fauna, I do consider him to be a person of considerable integrity and loyalty....has he always been right, no.....but when he's proven wrong he is the first to admit it and apologize for it. Doc
 
I know Tom wasn't being deceptive =) and he knows I wasn't thinking that hehe. I was just reminding him that for something like that to be posted by the rules in the BOI, he would need to give us your real name, not just a nickname. Thank you much for popping in and letting us know that information!
 
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