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Bad Guy Justin Babinec, South Florida

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I would like to warn others in South Florida of this person named Justin Babinec. He is not honest, very immature and does not care for his animals properly.

Back story:

I answered an ad on CraigsList that Justin posted regarding selling two fire salamanders. I agreed to meet with Justin at his place of employment, Pet Supermarket, to purchase two adult female fire sals and a baby tokay. Upon my arrival, Justin walked out from the store and retrieved the animals from inside of his car. From my understanding, these animals are heat sensitive and we live in South Florida - the purchase was made on May 8 and daytime temps were in the mid-high 80's. I questioned this, but he said that they "weren't there long". I bought the animals and drove home, a 40 minute drive. Before I got home, one was dead, as I saw her upside down in the tub. I immediately called Justin when I got home, who promptly yelled that *I* did something wrong, and that putting the animals in my air conditioned truck killed her. I was appalled! After a lengthy conversation he agreed to repay me the price of the now dead salamander (that took a lot of convincing...) I told him most people give a 1 week health guarantee, it's the honest thing to do, when you purchase an animal. He agreed and I said I would be in touch and let him know how the other sal does. As if on cue, the other salamander dies and he's informed immediately, even though this was one day passed the 1 week guarantee (she died May 16.) We had exchanged text messages prior to this as I was concerned that she was not eating for me. He asked me to give him a little time to come up with the money, but he would refund me for both sals - a total of $40. He said he had a family emergency though, and was leaving town, and that he "didn't want me to think he wasn't trying to send the money". He said that when he got back in town he would refund the money via money order. I told him whatever family emergency was going on, I hope everything was ok.

I heard nothing back, so on May 21 I texted him, touching base. He responded with he got back in town the day before, but asked to send the money in two weeks as the trip took all his money, he said "I will give you the 40 for sure though, no jokes".

I leave it alone, and see if he makes honest with his word. On June 10, I text him again. He responded with an apology for the delay and that he would send the money that Friday. I thanked him for his honesty. June 20, I send him another text that I hadn't received anything or heard from him. No response. June 22 I tell him I'll be in his area and that I would like to pick up my money instead of him having to get the money order and mailing it. He apologized that he got a new 'fone' and didn't have my number, was waiting for me to text him, and that he was with the cremation people. I told him sorry for his loss and that he could instead do the money order deal as we originally agreed to. He thanked me for being such an understanding person. I asked him to please not take advantage of me, and he returned with he wasn't, that it was "bad timing".

I didn't hear from him again. I sent texts on the following dates, just trying to follow up, never getting a response.

June 30
July 3
July 12
Aug 6

On Aug 13 I get a text from him "U got any lizards?" - I had listed a post on CraigsList for some snakes I was selling (no lizards...) I responded with "Are you serious? I don't hear from you in close to two months, as you still owe me $40, and you ask if I have any lizards? Justin come on."

And shockingly, no response again.

At the end of it, it's not about the money...it's about principle. This guy is NOT true to his word and does not care for his animals. I urge anyone buying/selling/trading with this kid (he looks to be maybe 18) to be careful. I've given him plenty of him to refund the money.

I can provide the texts if anyone wants to see them for some reason. I will be making him aware that his post exists, via text, as I do not have an email address for him.

Melody Owens
 
Here's the first four. Please note, the sal died about an hour after I sent him the text on May 16 at 7:43am, I had called him and left him a voicemail that she was gone. I unfortunately don't have record of that. Three more screen shots will be posted on the next message...
 

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I'm not disputing or attempting to discredit your statements, Melody, but would really appreciate his phone number, address, photos ... anything ... you might have relative to this person and your transaction.

It just seems familiar to another scenario posted here recently that raised questions about the credibility, maturity and honesty about the seller/advertiser in that other particular unsuccessful transaction (also in south FL). The buyer in that transaction also got burnt.
 
Hi Laura, his phone # is 954-224-5777. I don't have his address as I met him at his work, Pet Supermarket 2111 N Federal Hwy Hollywood, FL 33004. He drives a silver Alero. As far as pictures, I only have one of the tokay I bought, none of the salamanders.
 
Just my two cents. I think storing animals in one's car and doing transactions from one's car during a work day is obviously bad for the critters, and probably not something an employer that runs a critter business would condone.

I'd print out a copy of this thread, go talk to the manager of Pet Supermarket, and see if there is help available as far as encouraging the seller to refund as promised. I think any decent company would not want to be known for having its own employees engaging in the business of running petstores out of their cars during store hours.
 
I have had many transactions with melody over the years. All were for ball pythons. She has purchased some of my babies and I have purchased a few of her sub adults. Her animals have always been top notch. Very well fed and clean. I have no doubt in my mind that she is being truthfull about this situation. Her main focus is always the wellbeing of the animals. I hope this guy pays her the money he owes.

Joe Stuck
 
Hi Lucille, if it wasn't such a far drive I would consider that option. But I would honestly use up $30+ in gas going to and from the place again, and there's no guarantee that I would get anything in return. It's only $40, so I'm not too terribly worried about it. If it were a few hundred I'd have done much more by now. It's just the principle. He treats people terribly (I've talked to one other person that I sold a snake to who had a very similar experience with the kid...) and I wanted to make sure others were aware of his terrible 'customer service'.

Thank you Joe!
 
Thanks for his number, Melody. After seeing what is likely his Facebook page, I stand corrected. I don't think this guy has anything in common with that "similar situation" I mentioned before. I do agree that if he's selling animals out of his car and says he's employed by Pet Supermarket that they should be notified. He may be lying about being employed there but they should be made aware of his actions, IMO.
 
I've never worked for Pet Supermarket, but I did work for both PetSmart & Petco (as a dog trainer). At that time (approx 6 yrs ago) their were policies in place that said you were not allowed to sell your own 'anything' at the store, definately not during business hours & certainly not while on your shift. Once you add in the fact that he left a animal/reptile/ any living being in a car, in this disgustingly hot FL weather is just sickening & speaks volumes on his character IMO. I hope you are able to get your $40 back & I truly hope he learns a valuable lesson from this disgusting situation. Good luck to the OP!
 
Laura, he had the uniform shirt on when he walked out of the store so he is (was?) definitely employed there during the time of the transaction.

And thank you Sierra. It's terrible the animals had to suffer and die because of someones ignorance. Wish I had the common sense to have put two and two together, and just have turned around and left without them, but I just wanted to get them home (he told me other things that made me really nervous about his animal husbandry - how he kept the tokay gecko in with his leopard gecko, which was the only reason I bought the tokay was to get it away from him and into a better home.) I highly doubt he will learn anything from this situation - he's a conceited person and speaks as if he can do no wrong. Shame, really, that this kid has who knows how many more animals in his care. I just don't want anyone else to go through what I did - or any more animals for that matter.
 
Laura, he had the uniform shirt on when he walked out of the store so he is (was?) definitely employed there during the time of the transaction.
Thanks for that clarificatiion.

In that case, I would definitely contact the store manager. I know you stated that another road trip to the store is not feasible, but at the very least an immediate phone call is in order.

He is abusing not only what is certainly to be store policy but abusing live animals as well if he is transporting them to his place of employement and leaving them in an unsupervised, heated evironment.

The store bears a certain amount of liability for his actions - I'm certain they would not want to be held accountable for his complete disregard to both animal welfare and store policy.
The welfare of the animals in his care is first and foremost, so at least make the call please.
 
Hello, Melody
Justin had been contacting me off of a Craigslist add for a couple of weeks. He wanted to buy one of my crested geckos but kept low balling me. He offered me $60 for a beautiful, red male and I at first agreed. When I thought about it, I would be losing $40 and I really didn't want to sell that specific gecko. I apologized to him and told him I would sell him any other gecko. He totally freaked out and threatened to write a nasty review on me, quoting my name to ..intimidate me? I am not sure what his problem was but he took the entire thing way too seriously and basically wanted to turn a 5 minute craigslist convo into a horrible review that would be on google. Even though the Google review doesn't matter, I just thought he handled the entire situation way out of proportion and low and behold when I googled him number...I found this thread.
 
By the way, this entire ordeal was over text and lasted about 10 minutes. I did not scam him or fail to show up to a meet up location. Seems like a liar and an unstable individual.
 
He offered me $60 for a beautiful, red male and I at first agreed. When I thought about it, I would be losing $40 and I really didn't want to sell that specific gecko.

Seller's remorse is not a good excuse to back out of an agreed upon deal. I've had my fair share of "please back out" moments but if I offer a price and the other party accepts, it's theirs so long as they pay. That said, hearing how this person wantonly jeopardizes the lives of critters with a shady side deal from work, this would be one of the few circumstances I'd feel comfortable cancelling.
 
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