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Bad Guy TIBOR PAPP DEAL BREAKER

Moderator?

Lucille said:
It is a frequent ploy by those who can't or won't respond to the issues presented, to try to divert attention.
Looking over the comments you are so quick to disparage, I see posts by quite a few members, (some who are breeders) many who feel as if breaking a deal isn't good business. Are you saying that ALL these people who posted, standing up for the honorable concept of sticking to a deal once made were talking garbage?
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Are you a moderator Lucille? Thanks. Mike Panichi
 
no need to answer Lucille. This is how I look at it. You seem not to like the fact that I and a few others supported Tibor. In your mind, Joe was right and Tibor was wrong(which may or may not be true but not my business). Period. All I did was state that Joe and Tibor are both honorable men. In your little Fauna world of being in charge you seem like you have a hard time with someone disagreeing with you. Again, before you get your computer fingers all hot and heavy, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, ALL I DID WAS SUPPORT BOTH GUYS who are both gentleman in my book. If you don't like it I could care less. You also don't seem to like that I shared my PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS about garbage being posted by self appointed professional forum commentators. Well Lucille, all I can do is share a more recent observation. You have posted 11,160 times since 2004 and over 200 times since December 6th of THIS YEAR! Most of your posts were on the BOI and I read lots of them. Most of them are just like the nonsense you posted in this thread. Not really helping anything. To be fair, I went through hundred of pages of members posts and I couldn't find anyone close to your posting frequency. So in a nutshell Lucille, yes.......I think you fall squarely into what I feel is wrong with this BOI. Also based on my observations and experience with this and other reptile forums, I'm sure your many cronies will respond to my answer and defend you. This, I understand completely. Unlike you, I don't make it my job to take sides. Lastly, if in fact you actually are a moderator or you are employed by Fauna, I think it may help if you didn't feel the need to get involved in every single post. Almost literally. Take care. Mike Panichi
 
Mike Panic said:
All I did was state that Joe and Tibor are both honorable men.
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You have every right to think that what Tibor did was honorable. I do not agree. If you choose to simply not address the issue here, readers can give your opinion whatever weight they feel it deserves.

JPCBoas said:
On 5-23-2012 Tibor and myself made a deal and I was to buy a clutch from him.
I offered to pay-pal him the money or use them(pay-pal) for a deposit. He told me to send a check and that will be fine. I e-mailed him to confirm the check has been sent.The check went out Thursday 5-24-2012.It was going from Ct to California. On Sunday 5-27-2012 Tibor e-mailed me asking if I was still interested and sent me photos. I once again confirmed I was and the check was in the mail and offered pay pal once again.On 5-28-2012(Memorial day) Tibor left a message with me that he sold the litter on me. I phoned him and he told me to give him a hour and he would call me back. No call back so I returned his call and told him I was serious and wanted the litter and once again offered a pay pal deposit. On 5-28-2012 at 11:32 he e-mailed me again saying they could not come up with the money so the litter is mine again if I wanted it. I assured him again that check was on the way offered pay pal once again and told him I wanted them.On 5-29-2012 Tibor emailed me saying he got my check and is sending it back to me and not sending the litter.
So I had to do a stop payment on my check and refused a couple nice litters due to expecting this litter.
I emailed Tibor and told him how I felt and his ans was basically I sold the litter to someone else. oh well.

Tibor if you make a deal you should hold your end of the deal. This fallen deal has cost me time and money.
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Sorry April. I'm not trying to ruffle faunas feathers. Lucille clearly has a problem applying what she reads. I believe she just enjoys confrontation. Period. Again April, I apologize and won't comment further. I just wanted to point out the very obvious. Thanks. Mike Panichi
 
Lucille said:
It is a frequent ploy by those who can't or won't respond to the issues presented, to try to divert attention.
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Here are the issues, and a number of people in this thread have agreed that what Tibor did was not ethical:
JPCBoas said:
On 5-23-2012 Tibor and myself made a deal and I was to buy a clutch from him.
I offered to pay-pal him the money or use them(pay-pal) for a deposit. He told me to send a check and that will be fine. I e-mailed him to confirm the check has been sent.The check went out Thursday 5-24-2012.It was going from Ct to California. On Sunday 5-27-2012 Tibor e-mailed me asking if I was still interested and sent me photos. I once again confirmed I was and the check was in the mail and offered pay pal once again.On 5-28-2012(Memorial day) Tibor left a message with me that he sold the litter on me. I phoned him and he told me to give him a hour and he would call me back. No call back so I returned his call and told him I was serious and wanted the litter and once again offered a pay pal deposit. On 5-28-2012 at 11:32 he e-mailed me again saying they could not come up with the money so the litter is mine again if I wanted it. I assured him again that check was on the way offered pay pal once again and told him I wanted them.On 5-29-2012 Tibor emailed me saying he got my check and is sending it back to me and not sending the litter.
So I had to do a stop payment on my check and refused a couple nice litters due to expecting this litter.
I emailed Tibor and told him how I felt and his ans was basically I sold the litter to someone else. oh well.

Tibor if you make a deal you should hold your end of the deal. This fallen deal has cost me time and money.
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Anyone who doesn't hold to their WORD is not in our business for anything other than the money.

For the record, I am a breeder & I always stand behind my word.


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