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Bad Guy Gorgeous Geckos selling sick animals

Jazzman said:
You bet you weren't getting anywhere... You deleted the post because 87 people thought you were full of shit.

Serious question here... If the geckos are that sick, why not return them and get your ALL your money back. You can't even go to Walmart and get your money back without giving back the merchandise.

OR something even simpler... produce the vet bill to backup your word... Bingo, you get you money right?

Trying to get your money back without returning the actual merchandise at Walmart, they call that a scam or stealing, and they haul your ass off to jail,m don't they?

So what is your complaint? It seems the breeder is willing to return your money (again, not typical), take the geckos off your hands... Why aren't you happy with this? I'm confused.
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I'd be careful of the foul language. It will bite you.
 
Ryan, you stated in a past thread that you have the proof and you will post soon. The BOI functions on proof, evidence etc, as it is not a simple "he said she said" situation. Your original post was simply accusations with no proof, and we still haven't seen proof despite several requests from other members.

Members here will reserve judgement until there is factual evidence to support any claims being made. I understand that you have a lot and need time...HOWEVER,

This is particularly important, as you are potentially tarnishing the reputation of a seller in your "bad guy" thread.

I ask you, why wouldn't you have gathered all your proof, screenshots, pics, etc, BEFORE posting a "bad guy" thread? I'm assuming you're already familiar with how the BOI works, knowing full well that proof is needed.

Thanks
 
First, I agree the thread is not going anywhere until there is some sort of evidence produced by either party.

Second, I thought all the fake BOI groups on Facebook where shutdown recently due to copyright?
 
Ryan. Post proof or this thread will end with "Ryan, bad guy". If you have proof, post it. If you don't, the chances of you ever being taken seriously here again will be nonexistent.
 
gorgeousgecko said:
He has been offered a full refund including medication AND he can keep the animals if he could show he has taken them to a vet and gotten treatment for the pinworms which had had assured me he had done. He refuses to prove he has gotten them treatment and we have offered to drive 7 hours to pick up the animals and take them for treatment and he would receive a full refund but he REFUSES to give back the animals for a refund.
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Ryan, Kim has made you a very generous offer.

All you needed to do is show proof of what you are saying, without showing proof of the vet visit and treatment it sounds like you are full of it!
 
In all fairness, it is still only 24 hours since his first post - if he doesn't spend all day at his keyboard he may still be about to post the proof offered.
 
Why in the hell do people post "bad guy" threads without posting proof IMMEDIATELY?? That has always been what people ask for on the BOI!What does it take to figure that out? It's just sad that "common sense" can't be taught!
 
I read the information you provided in your Drop Box. In my opinion, Kimberly was professional and courteous throughout the whole situation. It pretty much sounds like she did not trust your ability to care for these geckos after speaking with you and didn't want to come right out and be rude. It's going to be difficult for you to make the argument that she's out for money since she is willing to make a 7 hour round trip to pick up two $30 geckos so she can have them treated. It would cost me more than $60 in gas to drive 7 hours in my truck.

Here's my take on what happened...
  • Kimberly shipped two geckos that appeared to be healthy but were probably carrying a light to moderate parasite load
  • Kimberly made a shipping error but did her best to correct the mistake by having her partner drive to pick up the geckos
  • Your geckos were stressed by the double shipping and the parasites took over when the gecko's immune systems were compromised.
  • Kimberly offered to give you a full refund and drive 7 hours to pick up the geckos so she could get them treated before their health declines further.
  • You refused and proceeded to trash her all over the internet
You actually come out looking worse in this situation than Kimberly in my opinion.
 
Kim offered you a refund or replacement for the deceased gecko. Not once did she offer a full refund on ALL of the geckos just because the one died. As soon as you mentioned the pin worms Kim offered to pick them up, and reimburse you for the sick animals. You immediately jumped to keeping them AND being compensated. Just because she didn't agree to your deal doesn't mean she backed out of a deal. And now she's willing to acquiesce and just asks for proof of vet care, what's your beef? If you really want to keep the geckos and really want them to be healthy they should already have been seen by a vet anyway.

I see no proof of pinworms. No proof of OTC deworming. No proof of vet care. Just you complaining about poor feeding response and supposed parasites. I wouldn't want to leave the animals with you either.
 
ryanbean1981 said:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ct5pu53o2k8cbjg/AAC1WAEit84eWOebjbi-WFn_a?dl=0
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I'm not sure I understand something.

Through all of those messages, you were offered a refund and they would come pick up the animals on their own. You seemed to just keep demanding money.

Then on this very forum, this offer was made:

gorgeousgecko said:
All he needed to do was provide a vet receipt or proof of treatment and he gets both refund and animals.
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That offer means you didn't need to post any of those conversations you just needed to post a pic of your vet receipt or other treatment costs and you could get your refund and keep the money.

I'm not sure what the issue is here.

The first offer of a refund and the seller picks up the sick animals at their own cost seems extremely fair.

The second offer of a refund and you keep all the animals if you post a pic of the vet bill seems to go above and beyond extremely fair.

Maybe I don't understand what it is you are trying to get to out of this.
 
I think the seller is going above and beyond what she needs to do to make you happy. It appears right now that you just want the money and animals and will trash her name to get what you want. If you don't post more, this is going to make everyone question whether to do business with you in the future or not. Right now, most people will end up putting you on their do not sell to lists.

Did you take the geckos to a vet? Were pinworms diagnosed and were the animals considered unhealthy? If what you say is true, it should be easy to post a picture/scan of your vet bill.
 
Kristi23 said:
Did you take the geckos to a vet? Were pinworms diagnosed and were the animals considered unhealthy? If what you say is true, it should be easy to post a picture/scan of your vet bill.
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I think some people just say they went to a vet and self-diagnose problems.
I doubt a vet ever saw these geckos...
 
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