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Ebola epidemic

From the NYT:

BREAKING NEWS Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:58 AM EDT
Texas Health Worker Tests Positive for Ebola
A health care worker here who helped treat the Liberian man who died of Ebola last week has tested positive for the disease in a preliminary test, state health officials said Sunday.
“We knew a second case could be a reality, and we’ve been preparing for this possibility,” said Dr. David Lakey, the Texas health commissioner. “We are broadening our team in Dallas and working with extreme diligence to prevent further spread.”
The worker, who was not identified, was an employee of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. The person reported a low grade fever Friday night and was isolated and referred for testing. Officials interviewed the worker and were identifying “any contacts or potential exposures,” the statement read.
 
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Health worker 2nd in US to test positive for Ebola

DALLAS (AP) — A Texas health care worker who was in full protective gear while providing hospital care for an Ebola patient who later died has tested positive for the virus and is in stable condition, health officials said Sunday. If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

Meanwhile, a top federal health official said the health care worker's Ebola diagnosis shows there was a clear breach of safety protocol and all those who treated Thomas Eric Duncan are now considered to be potentially exposed.

Dr. Daniel Varga, of the Texas Health Resources, said during a news conference Sunday that the worker wore a gown, gloves, mask and shield while they provided care to Duncan during his second visit to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. Varga did not identify the worker and says the family of the worker has "requested total privacy."

Varga says the health care worker reported a fever Friday night as part of a self-monitoring regimen required by the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He said another person also remains in isolation, and the hospital has stopped accepting new emergency room patients.

Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S., died Wednesday in Dallas.

"We knew a second case could be a reality, and we've been preparing for this possibility," Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, said in a statement Sunday. "We are broadening our team in Dallas and working with extreme diligence to prevent further spread."

But Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on Sunday raised concerns about a possible breach of safety protocol and told CBS' "Face the Nation" that among the things CDC will investigate is how the workers took off that gear — because removing it incorrectly can lead to a contamination.

"I think the fact that we don't know of a breach in protocol is concerning, because clearly there was a breach in protocol." Frieden said. "We have the ability to prevent the spread of Ebola by caring safely for patients ... We'll conduct a full investigation of what happens before health workers go in, what happens when they're there, and what happens in the taking out, taking off their protective equipment because infections only occur when there's a breach in protocol."

Health officials have interviewed the patient and are identifying any contacts or potential exposures. They said people who had contact with the health care worker after symptoms emerged will be monitored based on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus.

Officials said they also received information that there may be a pet in the health care worker's apartment, and they have a plan in place to care for the animal. They do not believe the pet has signs of having contracted Ebola.

Judge Clay Jenkins, Dallas County's top administrative official, said the unidentified health care worker is a "heroic" person who "was proud to provide care to Mr. Duncan." He said the health care worker's family has requested privacy because they are "going through a great ordeal."

More than 4,000 people have died in the ongoing Ebola epidemic centered in West Africa, according to World Health Organization figures published Friday. Almost all of those deaths have been in the three worst-affected countries, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.

Ebola spreads through close contact with a symptomatic person's bodily fluids, such as blood, sweat, vomit, feces, urine, saliva or semen. Those fluids must have an entry point, like a cut or scrape or someone touching the nose, mouth or eyes with contaminated hands, or being splashed. The World Health Organization says blood, feces and vomit are the most infectious fluids, while the virus is found in saliva mostly once patients are severely ill and the whole live virus has never been culled from sweat.

Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S., died Wednesday in Dallas. Duncan grew up next to a leper colony in Liberia and fled years of war before later returning to his country to find it ravaged by the disease that ultimately took his life.

Duncan arrived in Dallas in late September, realizing a long-held ambition to join relatives. He came to attend the high-school graduation of his son, who was born in a refugee camp in Ivory Coast and was brought to the U.S. as a toddler when the boy's mother successfully applied for resettlement.

The trip was the culmination of decades of effort, friends and family members said. But when Duncan arrived in Dallas, though he showed no symptoms, he had already been exposed to Ebola. His neighbors in Liberia believe Duncan become infected when he helped a pregnant neighbor who later died from it. It was unclear if he knew about her diagnosis before traveling.

Duncan had arrived at a friend's Dallas apartment on Sept. 20 — less than a week after helping his sick neighbor. For the nine days before he was taken to a hospital in an ambulance, Duncan shared the apartment with several people.
 
Health worker 2nd in US to test positive for Ebola



But Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on Sunday raised concerns about a possible breach of safety protocol and told CBS' "Face the Nation" that among the things CDC will investigate is how the workers took off that gear — because removing it incorrectly can lead to a contamination.

Just from my own experience, this is a real possibility for health care workers.
I recall in nursing school the clinical where we were taught how to remove a pair of gloves. Until and unless you've done it a thousand times or so, you really have to think it through.
Your bare hands should never touch the outside of the glove. We had books with pictures showing us how to do this step by step, but as I said until you've done it many, many times, you have to think about it while you are doing it. And the workers involved do not have a simple mask and glove setup, the protection is more extensive and has to be removed, like the gloves, exactly right.

From what I have seen, both doctors and nurses are not always as careful as they should be, not only in removing protective gear but also in simpler protections such as hand washing.
 
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This was at the Tinley show this weekend.

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The company I work for sells clean room items: masks, gloves, full body suits, etc. I wonder how soon before we start seeing orders going up? There's money to be made off of fear. Yes that was very callous but you know those vaccine companies are seeing dollar bills dancing in their eyes. The disease, and how quickly it can be spread, is scary but I don't know how much is being blown out of proportion.

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The disease, and how quickly it can be spread, is scary but I don't know how much is being blown out of proportion.

it does not seem like we can get a strait story out of anyone on this. Honestly, I think it going to get much worse before it gets better.

The media talks about how conditions in West Africa allow for uncontrolled spread, and how we are equipped here to better control the spread of such things. Well here's my grim opinion on this: while sanitation, healthcare, etc lead to rapid transmission within the areas of the epidemic, transportation being less developed may be what is keeping the spread slowed to it's current rate: Over here, people routinely travel farther while coming into contact with more things, like doors, groceries at the store, gas pumps, etc... If one undiagnosed symptomatic person goes through a regular day, picking up fast food on the way to work, pumps some gas into the car, touches surfaces at work, picks up some thera-flu at the grocery store on the way home; how many people will have been exposed without being traceable? They keep telling us that ebola is spread through contact with bodily fluids but ebola can survive on surfaces contaminated with these bodily fluids for something like 6 days.
Not trying to create a panic, but I think ebola will spread faster here if it were to become established, not be more easily contained as the CDC claims.

Nature is re-asserting it's dominance over man. It seems like this is the new plague for the 21st century.
Bubonic plague,
Spanish Influenza,
Ebola...
Time to put some posies in your pocket.

PS, great GIF image
 
Lucille, right on with the posies. (That rhyme wigged me out every time my kids said it.)

At least we can handle most things bacterial. The current death rate for the plague (treated) is 10-15%. Viruses continue to outplay and outwit us humans.

Noelle
 
Lucille, right on with the posies. (That rhyme wigged me out every time my kids said it.)

At least we can handle most things bacterial. The current death rate for the plague (treated) is 10-15%. Viruses continue to outplay and outwit us humans.

Noelle

That was Jon, but:

Ring-a-round the rosie,
A pocket full of posies,
Ashes! Ashes!

We all fall down.
 
The public media seems to be trying very hard to downplay the contagious nature of Ebola, claiming that it is difficult to get infected. But go online anywhere to see the images of medical people and the manner in which they are handling known or suspected infected people. Notice the suits? That should be a CLUE, I would think.

Do they REALLY think the public is that stupid?
 
The public media seems to be trying very hard to downplay the contagious nature of Ebola, claiming that it is difficult to get infected.

seriously.
It obviously does not take much to become infected if those in full gear still catch it.
 
seriously.
It obviously does not take much to become infected if those in full gear still catch it.

And especially since it is public knowledge that medical personnel who were taking what they thought were adequate precautions became infected anyway. But for the unwashed masses with NO protections it is difficult to catch? :rolleyes:

Trying to prevent a panic is one thing, but knowingly providing false information from supposed experts and authorities that could get large numbers of people killed should be treated as a criminal offense.
 

Particularly this doctor. She's a big pharma pimp. Loves promoting every talking point handed to her.

At the very least, she needs to be relieved of her job for this little stunt. She absolutely knew what she was doing, but she's a spoiled rich lady who just spent time in a place with no good restaurants.
It's suspected to be here in Missouri now. Getting real.

Noelle

She promotes vaccines that many believe haven't been properly tested and states screw the side effects before they are even identified. All for the common good.

On all other topics she quick to state listen to the government and do as they state.

Here is her response

"As a health professional I know that we have no symptoms and pose no risk to the public, but I am deeply sorry for the concerns this episode caused. "

Now, In her personal case, She knows best. Unlike the rest of us peons who need to be required to take many more vaccines. Have less rights as parents to decide against giving our children new vaccines that we may not think has been adequately tested for longer periods of time.

She's a prime example of a elitist and hypocrite. Do as I state not as I do.

So I say give her some unheard of and not tested Ebola vaccine and three swine flu shots for good measure.
 
Now, In her personal case, She knows best. Unlike the rest of us peons who need to be required to take many more vaccines. Have less rights as parents to decide against giving our children new vaccines that we may not think has been adequately tested for longer periods of time.

She's a prime example of a elitist and hypocrite. Do as I state not as I do.

Vaccines are big, big money. When I voiced some doubts about making the HPV vaccine a requirement rather than leaving it up to parents, I was given a hard time by some.


Snyderman has earned more than my disapproval, she has earned my contempt for breaking quarantine. In my opinion as a doctor and medical professional she is a role model, and as such, in my opinion, others in the future will point to her, say they feel fine, and sneak out of their own quarantine situations.
 
There's been a bit of conspiracy talk about an Ebola vaccine being developed and then made mandatory, with all the attendant backdoor "gotchas" that could be injected along with the vaccine. But think of the pressure applied to take such a vaccine voluntarily with news of people dropping like flies all over the country. It would be an extremely easy sell to the majority of the people.

Not sure how thrilled I would be with such a vaccine coming out of the labs of a place like Monsanto. But certainly I'm not going to take such an injection unless held at gunpoint to do so, regardless of who would make it. Heck, I don't take flu shots at all and likely never will. It still rankles me no end to think of those injections I HAD to take when I was inducted into military service. It's MY body, thank you very much......

Not to mention that there will have to be some way of verifying that you actually had such a vaccination. Sure would be interesting to see what they would come up with for that. :rolleyes:
 
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