Morph ID

[Occidentalis]

Hi all,

I apologize for the mundane question in advance! I know there's not much more uninteresting question than "what morph is my ball python" other than "is my boa BCI or BCC".

I received this ball python in a trade.

It was represented as a Mojave. I have no reason to think it's not, but I wanted to confirm with you guys. I don't know much about morphs.

Thanks,
Alex

 

[Pasodama]

Looks like a Mojave to me.

 

[SPJ]

Mojave

 

[Reptile Frenzy]

Yep mojo.

 

[Occidentalis]

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Occidentalis]

Here's a second one I could use the help on! What am I? Enchi?

 

[Robert Walker]

Alexander, can you perhaps get some different pictures on the last snake you are trying to ID, the saturation levels are throwing me off. At first glance I wouldn't have guessed Enchi.

 

[Dbz4246]

I can kinda get enchi from those pics but it is a little bit difficult. Mostly the eye color is what is making me lean toward, "yes". But still difficult to determine 100%

 

[Occidentalis]

I will bust out the good camera tomorrow evening, should be a lot better at capturing the color.

 

[Dbz4246]

Cool, what did you pick him/her up as?

 

[Pasodama]

I will bust out the good camera tomorrow evening, should be a lot better at capturing the color.

If you could, take a pic (or two), of its entire eye, as well.

 

[Occidentalis]

As requested, better photos. Eye included (but photos are not great, sorry).
Picked him up as an enchi.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Robert Walker]

Yes, I can see Enchi now, mustache too. Darker than most, but still looks Enchi.

 

[Occidentalis]

Yes, I can see Enchi now, mustache too. Darker than most, but still looks Enchi.

Thanks Robert! I know it's baby stuff but could you point out the features that say enchi to you? Trying to learn.

 

[Pasodama]

I can see Enchi, now, as well.
Banded type pattern, that "certain" yellowed lower sides, reduced belly pattern, the blush spots on skull, etc. says Enchi to me. Even though the eye color, and "golden type" body color (esp. for age), is a tad darker than I would expect.

For Enchis, the less spots, the better (to me). No spots would be best.

 

[Pasodama]

As it gets older, the black pattern should lighten up.
You, probably, know that.
I just don't know how much it will lighten up, on a darker Enchi, though.

 

[Robert Walker]

It would be nice if all snakes popped out with a written certificate of what they really were Some a A+ examples and some are D-, so it gets hard, but for me here is some of what I look for. One of these by themselves is not enough, but the group together usually points me in a fairly good direction. Knowing the breeding too!

Picture 1: If I only saw Picture 1, I would have said "not" Enchi. I usually expect to see a lot less dark circles.

Picture 2: The light band that goes through the face usually passes through the eye color, meaning the top of the eye is light and bottom is dark, half and half. Usually the area under the light band is pretty dark, high contrast.

Picture 2: Mustache, in the yellow circles you see black patterns and above the front of the lip

Picture: My example

Picture 4: This shows what I would expect in an Enchi, lots of melting of pattern and banding too. Picture 4 looks like an Enchi, Picture 1 does not.

Picture 4: In the light part of the snake I usually expect to see ORANGE, BRONZE, GREEN vs. WHITE, BROWN, BLACK or GRAY.

Overall, I would say you have a B- or C+ Enchi. 100% my opinion = haters stay away

 

[Occidentalis]

What a detailed and well reasoned response. Thank you so much!

 

[Robert Walker]

Between what Deb & I posted, hope this helps out!

 

[Pasodama]

Nice break down with illustrations.

One of these by themselves is not enough, but the group together usually points me in a fairly good direction. Knowing the breeding too!

Absolutely. Snake having all of the traits. Not just one or two.

100% my opinion = haters stay away