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Bad Guy Tony121204/Anthony Pappas is a scammer

The blood Pythons were sent from a kid named Sam as everyone here knows, I picked them up at a hub in Lancaster pa. A few blocks from a family members house, what I was aware they were a deposit for anthony and my younger brother Mike as a trade for some caging that Sam wanted. Now Scot comes into this thread for the fact anthony was at a Hamburg pa reptile expo show with myself, and a few other people when he approached vendors to trade the bloods there he traded this guy scot f the bloods. Scot f is a reputable breeder at every pa show and was not aware these blood pythons were "stolen or not paid for yet". Scot simply took them as a trade from anthony c Pappas who he thought was a honest guy looking to trade some blood pythons that belonged to him.
 
Kate, why are you the person who shipped the tortoises instead of Anthony?

Why are you the person who sent the money to Sam via Western Union instead of [insert party here]?

In case it gets overlooked (by anyone - including me), I will ask again to consolidate slightly. Who is Mike Cogar?
 
Anthony is not a very stand up guy Id have to say, in other words. I shipped them because he offered me money to drop them off, also he didn't have "proper Id" and I picked up the bloods I guess he thought sending them to Lancaster me picking them up it wouldn't come back on him.
 
Background check does bring up a: Michael Andrew Ellis at the address Kate has been listing.

This is the Michael A. Ellis that is in his 20's (25?), correct? He is listed as being related to Kate Ellis.

Thanks for clarifying Kate.
Who is Michael Andrew Ellis in relation to you?

Who is Mike Cogar?

Is Michael Ellis and Mike Cogar the same person?
 
Kate, your Paypal account received funds on 8-Sep-2014 for the original sulcata order placed by Ricky Green, correct? Why did it take until 18-Oct-2014 for shipment (of inaccurately described tortoises) to occur if you received the funds on September eighth? Also, your email address was used by Tony to register for this site. There is a confirmation email with a link that goes out with this finalize the registering party's end of establishing that account. Did/does he have access to that account? Why and how? You have described him as "not a very stand up guy". He registered the one account in August of this year with that email address and operated through it until mid-November. Does this not strike you as odd? Emails, PM notification emails, and (maybe) phone calls for Anthony's dealings/transactions would have had to repeatedly been funneled to your email address (and perhaps phone number). Please explain that aspect.

Chris Durante, when you posted about the inquiry regarding a rack as referenced in post number ten of this thread, what was the phone number that was given to you for contact? You have put XXXX in place of the last four digits. Providing them would be potentially helpful now.
 
Yes, I disputed with PayPal he had my account negative over 3k dollars at one point, I let him use my paypal acct. which was also hooked to my email. I was paid for dropping the tortoise off, and he also gave me 150 dollars cash to use my paypal to have the money deposited which then I transf. Into my bank and gave him the diffrence. Which in long run I had to pay back as well. By all means I don't mind helping with what I can but what does any of this have to do with someone being scammed?
 
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