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Bad Guy Jim Flaherty of the Chameleon Company

LauraB said:
LOL ... proof of what? That Jim Flaherty/Chameleon Company/Cham Co has been lawfully engaged in business breeding/selling chameleons for years? Proof that the Chammandos called the Authoritah and the Authoritah cleared him?

Perhaps we should ask the same of Rob Nichols or any of those other Farcebook breeders/vendors. Do they all have appropriate permits? Do they all collect appropriate city, county or state sales taxes required where they reside?

Do they then all report the income derived through their sales to the appropriate city, county or state taxation departments where they reside, where required and applicable? AND the IRS? Should we start demanding proof they all are within their local and national laws?
Hmm, something to think about ...

Jim is no more obligated to post "proof" than Rob Nichols is to post "proof" that he's complied with taxation laws applicable to his resident state, county, or city and reported income from his "business" to those local agencies that may require it, AND the IRS for all the years he has bred and sold for profit.

Might be a good idea to just let this crap die. Jim's inadvertent escapees have hardly doomed the future of Florida fauna or flora and all this other BS is like personal high school drama. Nichols has a problem, uh yeah. Obvious.

Jim ain't a villain or ecological terrorist.

If anyone even checks in occasionally at FFWCC, there is a very recent update on invasive Monitors, not deadly chams. :rolleyes:
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Seein what you type about what you know about invasive species only roves you haven't any idea at all what your talking about
 
robmd1 said:
also you clearly havnt any idea about me . this has never been a business its a hobbie
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We have a good idea of what you are about from screenshots of your own words, in this thread.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533253

If the total lack of civility in your own words is a reflection of how you deal with others in a hobby, I leave it to readers to judge for themselves how you might act in an actual business transaction, or whether to give weight/credibility to continued allegations against Jim here after he has already addressed them.
 
Lucille said:
We have a good idea of what you are about from screenshots of your own words, in this thread.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533253

If the total lack of civility in your own words is a reflection of how you deal with others in a hobby, I leave it to readers to judge for themselves how you might act in an actual business transaction, or whether to give weight/credibility to continued allegations against Jim here after he has already addressed them.
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You proved you haven't a clue wtf your talking about ontop of being an old prude who can't take bad words, all he PROVED is that he likes to talk a lot and not about anything truthful, he proved he said everything was good and no problems and sorry I've seen how his word is when he told me to breed a mutt as pure locale. It doesn't really matter what you say as I don't know you, your not someone in my hobbie, your someone likes to watch black and white TV it appears. Sorry Id rather watch 4 k TV, your behind the times my Chams speak for themselves , jim do to an real breeders are staying away from Jim's lines because they are crossed and not worth wasting time with end of story.
 
All this smack talk going on with chameleon breeders i dont know if i want to get a chameleon anymore. im worried ill buy one thinking its a chameleon and then get it and it is actually a dog. What do now? dog not chameleon.
 
Densen said:
All this smack talk going on with chameleon breeders i dont know if i want to get a chameleon anymore. im worried ill buy one thinking its a chameleon and then get it and it is actually a dog. What do now? dog not chameleon.
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Hey Denis,
One does not have to be a hobbyist for long, or a reader here likewise, to see that while most folks in all of the reptile breeding and supply disciplines are good folks, there are some of undesirable character. Robert Nichols, and a small cluster of Admin and a few others at CGW, made choices about their own conduct.

If anyone wants to educate themselves about the panther chameleon, I have a very thorough website, full of info and images. We have also been published, both in print, and on the internet. For instance, we did the cover story on this 10 year old issue (Dec '05) of Reptiles Magazine. That was one of our nice Ambilobe Locale males on the cover, Anubis. Robert's babbling about our lines includes his know-nothingness about the high-white traits in some Ambilobes. We were the first to import the Ambilobe Locale into the US, beginning in 2002. Anubis was in the second batch of imports. Lots of white. A stunning chameleon, produced in the wilds of Madagascar.
 

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Hey Denis,
One does not have to be a hobbyist for long, or a reader here likewise, to see that while most folks in all of the reptile breeding and supply disciplines are good folks, there are some of undesirable character. Robert Nichols, and a small cluster of Admin and a few others at CGW, made choices about their own conduct.

If anyone wants to educate themselves about the panther chameleon, I have a very thorough website, full of info and images. We have also been published, both in print, and on the internet. For instance, we did the cover story on this 10 year old issue (Dec '05) of Reptiles Magazine. That was one of our nice Ambilobe Locale males on the cover, Anubis. Robert's babbling about our lines includes his know-nothingness about the high-white traits in some Ambilobes. We were the first to import the Ambilobe Locale into the US, beginning in 2002. Anubis was in the second batch of imports. Lots of white. A stunning chameleon, produced in the wilds of Madagascar.
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Jim always Talks a good game he's just yet to produce it..
 
Robert. What more does he need to produce. He is one of the leaders of the panther chameleon biz if not the leader. Time after time after time he produces killer quality pure locality panthers. His shipping methods are awesome. His customer service is awesome. By the look of pics I've seen his facility is awesome. What more does he need to produce for you personally.
I firmly believe you are jealous and extremely envious of him. I think you should just give him a call and talk to him like a man. Maybe he will give you some pointers.
 
Herpguy11 said:
Rob you really detract from the main purpose here and really hurt the allegations against Jim.
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Except that the allegations against me have been shown to be grossly exaggerated, if not false. I am all clear. All controlling authorities have said so. You are most welcome to contact the FWC and file a complaint, seeing as you are in OK and know so much more than they, or me, here in FL, about my facility and Florida !!

Go for it !!
 
Chameleon Company said:
Except that the allegations against me have been shown to be grossly exaggerated, if not false. I am all clear. All controlling authorities have said so. You are most welcome to contact the FWC and file a complaint, seeing as you are in OK and know so much more than they, or me, here in FL, about my facility and Florida !!

Go for it !!
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You still have posted zero proof that that actually happened. Also, as I have had to state multiple times here, them checking once is far from the be-all end-all you act like it is.
 
Herpguy11 said:
You still have posted zero proof that that actually happened. Also, as I have had to state multiple times here, them checking once is far from the be-all end-all you act like it is.
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Guess what ace. I am not going to lift one finger to post anything for you except to point out that you know nothing.

Call them. Call FWC. You can do it. Fact is, you haven't the chutzpah to do that. You haven't the integrity. The "proof" is that there is nothing in the public record that they had any findings of wrongdoing. As an aside, I asked if we could have a group photo of the three of us. They said that policy does not allow them to voluntarily have their faces imaged while out on the job.

Prove to me that you don't beat your wife David Bradt of Stillwater OK.
 
Craig Wyatt said:
Robert. What more does he need to produce. He is one of the leaders of the panther chameleon biz if not the leader. Time after time after time he produces killer quality pure locality panthers. His shipping methods are awesome. His customer service is awesome. By the look of pics I've seen his facility is awesome. What more does he need to produce for you personally.
I firmly believe you are jealous and extremely envious of him. I think you should just give him a call and talk to him like a man. Maybe he will give you some pointers.
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Says you, lots of luck selling any offspring if you use cham co lines that's all im sayin
 
Chameleon Company said:
Except that the allegations against me have been shown to be grossly exaggerated, if not false. I am all clear. All controlling authorities have said so. You are most welcome to contact the FWC and file a complaint, seeing as you are in OK and know so much more than they, or me, here in FL, about my facility and Florida !!

Go for it !!
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What says your in the clear you babblin on saying you are when produced nothing
 
who do I contact within FWC and what should I ask for? I dont have any opinion here as I actually know nothing about chameleons and nothing about both breeders. Ill get the information and post it here. its not that hard.
 
robmd1 said:
Says you, lots of luck selling any offspring if you use cham co lines that's all im sayin
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Shout out and thanks to my many customers. Shipped out 26 chameleons so far this week, and 4 more leaving today. That is a bit above average. While I advertise very little, these threads are serving as very good advertising. Thank you folks.
 
Densen said:
who do I contact within FWC and what should I ask for? I dont have any opinion here as I actually know nothing about chameleons and nothing about both breeders. Ill get the information and post it here. its not that hard.
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You will be searching for citations that do not exist. You will have to figure that out. Maybe that genius in OK can tell you where to find something that does not exist. Have fun !!
 
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