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Bad Guy Garret Smith ( Scammer )

But Garrett mentions some barbata to mike that he was already getting. Now he's only getting them because mike asked for them? No garrett offered something he was already getting. I don't see why there was a need for you to get more and if they arent 2000 a pair in Europe i don't see how anyone is losing money. Except mike.

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Ilovemyherps said:
But Garrett mentions some barbata to mike that he was already getting. Now he's only getting them because mike asked for them? No garrett offered something he was already getting. I don't see why there was a need for you to get more and if they arent 2000 a pair in Europe i don't see how anyone is losing money. Except mike.

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And again, I wrote it 3 times already:
He is buying out the animals of a deal. So again, yes, we planed to ship animals anyway. But not so many as we are doing now. So I had to get additional animals. Because since end of September Michael and Garrett agreed on 4.4 barbata to bring this story to an end.
It is not getting wrong, just because you ask the same question again and again. The answer will always be the same. Please go back some posts. I explained in detail.
 
Markus,
You may have answered this, already, and I missed it.
However, I hope you will answer.

On the Pakistan export, for the Saara Hardwickii, was this, or is this, a deal where you and Garrett are equal partners?
Did you and Garrett have the same idea and decide, together, to make this export/import?
Did you and Garrett decide, together, to see if anybody else wanted in on getting some Saara Hardwickii from Pakistan?

If No, to any of these above questions, was it Garrett's idea, and decisions, that he approached you with or was it your's that you approached Garrett with?

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Ilovemyherps said:
But Garrett mentions some barbata to mike that he was already getting. Now he's only getting them because mike asked for them? No garrett offered something he was already getting. I don't see why there was a need for you to get more and if they arent 2000 a pair in Europe i don't see how anyone is losing money. Except mike.

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If you're looking for non vague STRAIGHT answer, you'll never get it.
 
Pasodama said:
Markus,
You may have answered this, already, and I missed it.
However, I hope you will answer.

On the Pakistan export, for the Saara Hardwickii, was this, or is this, a deal where you and Garrett are equal partners?
Did you and Garrett have the same idea and decide, together, to make this export/import?
Did you and Garrett decide, together, to see if anybody else wanted in on getting some Saara Hardwickii from Pakistan?

If No, to any of these above questions, was it Garrett's idea, and decisions, that he approached you with or was it your's that you approached Garrett with?

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Did you and Garrett decide, together, to see if anybody else wanted in on getting some Saara Hardwickii from Pakistan?
I got to know Garrett after this hardwickii thing was already running. So no. As I wrote some weeks back, he just told me that he has someone that is also investing.

On the Pakistan export, for the Saara Hardwickii, was this, or is this, a deal where you and Garrett are equal partners?
I don´t know what day exactly, but I think it was around June, that we agreed on the 50-50 partnership. But that just counts for all deals we make together from that moment on and not deals before. So no.

Did you and Garrett have the same idea and decide, together, to make this export/import?
If you mean the hardwickii import, again a no. He asked me if I want to invest in the hardwickii import to serve the European market.

If No, to any of these above questions, was it Garrett's idea, and decisions, that he approached you with or was it your's that you approached Garrett with?
Garrett invited me to be part of a deal he has. And I agreed.
 
Chris Kennard said:
If you're looking for non vague STRAIGHT answer, you'll never get it.
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I am taking care of the animals that he agreed in a deal with Garrett. That costs me money! How can you not understand that? I explained in detail. I even wrote down the number of animals I have here. How is that vague?

Chris, you are driving me crazy. I write everything more then precisly.
Just because of people like you, nobody helps each other. I did help Michael. Read what he (!) wrote. What do I get for that: Your ignorant comments.
Because of such ignorance, people stop helping each other.
If I spend time and money in helping Michael, my fault.

This threat is not about you. It is about Garrett and Michael.
Instead of again and again criticising me, what I actually do not deserve, do what others do here, support finding a solution.
 
uromastyx13 said:
Garret Smith is always derailing conversations he can never stay on the same topic and tends to ignore all questions that don't convient him to answer with out trying to one up the person asking them , looks like im gonna have to wait another 9 months to get the contact information for the Pakistan shipment
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Derailing conversations?????

I'm not answering questions that have been answered multiple times. I'm not answering questions about anything but the agreement between you and I.

This will be the 3rd or 4th time that I have asked you to PM me your Skype info so I can set up your introduction with the Pakistan contact. You keep posting after I ask this but don't take action. You seem to be the one derailing.

Garrett
 
Markus maybe you can help or clairify this what im about to mention once again.
1. What is the contact information for the exporter in Pakistan since garret always derails from answering it?
2. If the pogona barbata are so rare and great sellers why won't garret get them to sell them himself for "$2000" a pair to cash me out for $6500 and keep the rest for profit?
3. If garret had ads for barbata already how did both of you spend more money buying my quantity to cash me out when you had some for sale already?
 
Frogman11 said:
Derailing conversations?????

I'm not answering questions that have been answered multiple times. I'm not answering questions about anything but the agreement between you and I.

This will be the 3rd or 4th time that I have asked you to PM me your Skype info so I can set up your introduction with the Pakistan contact. You keep posting after I ask this but don't take action. You seem to be the one derailing.

Garrett
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In one of the screen shoots you told me to ask you for the contact info from Pakistan on the BOI which i have been more than once why can't you post it on here or send it to me via messenger
 
So if i changed my mind on not accepting the bearded dragons what does that mean i don't qualify for a cash refund? How many times have you changed Your mind on me garret when it has come to options of refunding me since i have been asking you for one back in april???????
 
schaumda said:
I am taking care of the animals that he agreed in a deal with Garrett. That costs me money! How can you not understand that? I explained in detail. I even wrote down the number of animals I have here. How is that vague?

Chris, you are driving me crazy. I write everything more then precisly.
Just because of people like you, nobody helps each other. I did help Michael. Read what he (!) wrote. What do I get for that: Your ignorant comments.
Because of such ignorance, people stop helping each other.
If I spend time and money in helping Michael, my fault.

This threat is not about you. It is about Garrett and Michael.
Instead of again and again criticising me, what I actually do not deserve, do what others do here, support finding a solution.
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Markus,

Chris does this for fun. Antagonizing people is his hobby and he thrives on it. He has people that will say he's helping the hobby...LOL.

Most people don't like confrontation and avoid it. Chris, behind his screen is a tough guy looking for something that's not there. He will ask questions that have been answered and pester you until no end.

It's best to put him on your ignore list. It makes this a lot more productive.

Garrett
 
uromastyx13 said:
So if i changed my mind on not accepting the bearded dragons what does that mean i don't qualify for a cash refund? How many times have you changed Your mind on me garret when it has come to options of refunding me since i have been asking you for one back in april???????
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ZERO!
 
uromastyx13 said:
Markus maybe you can help or clairify this what im about to mention once again.
1. What is the contact information for the exporter in Pakistan since garret always derails from answering it?
2. If the pogona barbata are so rare and great sellers why won't garret get them to sell them himself for "$2000" a pair to cash me out for $6500 and keep the rest for profit?
3. If garret had ads for barbata already how did both of you spend more money buying my quantity to cash me out when you had some for sale already?
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Hi Michael,
Just in short, because I was just shutting down my computer as its 1:22 am, and that last comment of Chris really drove me nuts:

1) What is the contact information for the exporter in Pakistan since garret always derails from answering it?
Just give Garrett your skype name, so he can connect you both on skype. That is like inviting people on facebook to be friends. Than you have the contact information and can spreak with the provider yourself and have the contact information to chat and else. But: Don´t write your skype name here. Because then the whole world sees it. I think that is what Garrett said, when he wrote that he wants you to ask for the information on the boi. He didn´t want to share those infos to the world, just wanted to proof, that you and him arranged the exchange of this informations.

2. If the pogona barbata are so rare and great sellers why won't garret get them to sell them himself for "$2000" a pair to cash me out for $6500 and keep the rest for profit?
I don´t know. Thats the deal between you and him. I just promise you to take care you get what you both agreed on. And thats what I did.

3. If garret had ads for barbata already how did both of you spend more money buying my quantity to cash me out when you had some for sale already?[/QUOTE]
It was not "both of you". I paid for the animals. Garrett and I sold some Varanus. The whole profit goes into my pocket. So Garrett is buying them by giving his 50% of that deals to me.
 
uromastyx13 said:
So if i changed my mind on not accepting the bearded dragons what does that mean i don't qualify for a cash refund? How many times have you changed Your mind on me garret when it has come to options of refunding me since i have been asking you for one back in april???????
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Don't you get it!

I don't care how long you have been asking for a refund. You AGREED TO THIS DEAL!

You, Your self said, before you started this BOI that it will probably take a year.

Why should I give you a refund??????
 
I guess I have a yes or no question/scenario for all that are commenting on this BOI:

Someone has a burger king for sale.

They say in 6 moths to a year, this burger king will make money

You and I go in on this burger king together.

After 4 months its not making money, and you want out.

You ask/demand that I refund you the money that you put into this burger king?

Does this sound reasonable to you? Yes/No?

Garrett
 
Markus to clear it up I was not trying to bad mouth you. From others post and myself reading how you write I believe you to be a good guy and both mike and garrett could pm each other for the info they take the time to write these lengthy comments. I just wanted to figure out the Barbara problem and I still don't get why Varanus got brought up and how garrett makes money? And if the op backed out then it should only deal with him and Garrett. But mike should defiantly just pm Garrett for the Pakistan info and talk to them. Figure it out and get back to us. I really want this to workout for both parties then you guys can never have to talk again.

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And Garrett if it hits the year mark before he sees animals or proven paper work would you then give a refund?

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Frogman11 said:
I guess I have a yes or no question/scenario for all that are commenting on this BOI:

Someone has a burger king for sale.

They say in 6 moths to a year, this burger king will make money

You and I go in on this burger king together.

After 4 months its not making money, and you want out.

You ask/demand that I refund you the money that you put into this burger king?

Does this sound reasonable to you? Yes/No?

Garrett
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I didn't word the question correctly.

The question is: Am I responsible for the refund? Yes?No
 
Frogman11 said:
I didn't word the question correctly.

The question is: Am I responsible for the refund? Yes?No
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I feel he deserves a refund after the year mark. He also needs to talk to the Pakistan's for info on the order. And that's only gonna happen if one of you guys just messages the other.

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