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Info Need some advice on a situation involving Alea Rodriguez.

CwnAnnwn said:
Is that really how you want to be depicted in this thread? Really?

You said you would help her. Because she is not a good person in your eyes, does not mean you can be a bad person back.

You agreed to keep her snakes. A good person would simply ask when she can receive them back and what is safe for the snakes. A good person would keep their word regardless of what happens. At this point, you appear to want more drama and don't want to reduce conflict.

You don't have to be a bad person here, stop acting like one.
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And how's that? I get threatened and everything she's said to me, and also a lie or two posted here to try to make me look bad, I would have continued to hold onto them for free had none of this happened. She took her relationship problems out on me, threatened me, etc. Sorry but I'm not going to be walked all over because she wants someone to take her anger out on and treat like crap. We had already planned for her to get them back come spring before any of this happened. I'm NOT trying to keep her snakes. I'd rather have the space back.
 
missred said:
I tried talking to you just between us and you started threatening so I blocked your messages.... you have my number not once have you called or texted..... this is my last post on here because this is petty, childish, and could have been resolved had you not decided to threaten me. When you can decide to be an adult feel free to text or call me until then I'll wait till its warm enough and if you feel you need money for all this fine we will discuss it when your not holding my snakes hostage.

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Please show where I threatened you. I posted them all. That's another lie.

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missred said:
I'm not trying to do anything.... your making yourself loom bad by staring fauna threads over petty childish things.... your doing it all yourself..... the only thing I want from this is my animals, because our "friendship" isn't worth this drama that you always instill in my life.....

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How did I ever instill drama in your life? We were the best of friends until your meltdown the other day. Buy I guess anything to try to make yourself look better. You want your snakes? Fine take them, I'll ship them out soon as you pay for it. You want to risk them dying in the holiday shipments that's on you.
 
Oh for the love of. Both of you seriously need to take a step away from the computer and away from the phones and NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER until you can calm down. No name calling, no snide remarks. No, "But she!". Just stop.
 
I tried to be civil. Yea when she went off on me I went off back, but after a couple days I tried to be civil and she started her crap again. I didn't want it to come to this but I needed advice. Many have told me to just keep them, I do not want them. Others agree with me charging for their care from here on out, seems some here do not. Sorry but I'm not going to be walked all over by someone because they had a bad day. Her snakes are happy and healthy and have grown quite a bit since coming here in april. I could have let it all go had she not threatened me for something I wasn't even planning on doing. She says I threatened her? Where? Please someone show me a threat I made to her?

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Don't be a 'Last Word Lexis'
Just walk away for a few days.
Everyone will still be here when you get back.
 
Shiari said:
Oh for the love of. Both of you seriously need to take a step away from the computer and away from the phones and NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER until you can calm down. No name calling, no snide remarks. No, "But she!". Just stop.
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Agree. This has turned into a really awkward public cat fight that isn't making either of you look good. :confused:
 
meowmeowkazoo said:
Agree. This has turned into a really awkward public cat fight that isn't making either of you look good. :confused:
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I just wanted advice. And by the look of that last message it seemed she relinquished ownership, but I wanted clarification. I wanted civil conversation not what this has been turned into. Again I do NOT want her snakes, all I want is now that I'm no longer taking care of snakes for a friend but now boarding them for someone till she can get them back is some compensation, I fail to see how that makes me a bad person.

If any of you were threatened to have your "life ruined" over something you weren't going to do for no reason I'm sure you all wouldn't be as understanding as you are now. I had no problem taking them in. I told her to send them to me so she knew they were taken care of till she could get them back. And I have every intention of sending them back. Several have offered to buy them but I won't sell unless she clearly states she doesn't want them, which is obvious won't happen. So the only person they'd be going to is her.

When she's ready to speak civilly I'll be there to listen and talk like I wanted to in the first place. Now I have to pick up my son from school, have a good day everyone.
 
Elexis. Does she actually have the *ability* to ruin your life? Do you believe that, truthfully? Because I'm thinking the answer is, in actuality, no.
 
For the record I have had dealings with both these young ladies. it is in the 60s where the owner lives and in the 50s where the holder lives today. These animals could easily be shipped back to the owner. I understand the concern over proper caging, but it really looks to me like the two have backed themselves into corners and now will not yield. Easily fixable. Take a breath.
 
ElexisOrtiz said:
I just wanted advice. And by the look of that last message it seemed she relinquished ownership, but I wanted clarification. I wanted civil conversation not what this has been turned into. Again I do NOT want her snakes, all I want is now that I'm no longer taking care of snakes for a friend but now boarding them for someone till she can get them back is some compensation, I fail to see how that makes me a bad person.

If any of you were threatened to have your "life ruined" over something you weren't going to do for no reason I'm sure you all wouldn't be as understanding as you are now. I had no problem taking them in. I told her to send them to me so she knew they were taken care of till she could get them back. And I have every intention of sending them back. Several have offered to buy them but I won't sell unless she clearly states she doesn't want them, which is obvious won't happen. So the only person they'd be going to is her.

When she's ready to speak civilly I'll be there to listen and talk like I wanted to in the first place. Now I have to pick up my son from school, have a good day everyone.
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Just ship her the snakes. It is beginning to sound like the purpose of this rant is to justify your keeping them. Anyone who tells you it is ok to keep something that is not yours because of something that was said is wrong. You keep fishing around for someone to agree that she "relinquished" them. I do not see it. I am sure that you will not like my advice, but is is my honest opinion.
 
Herps Alive! said:
For the record I have had dealings with both these young ladies. it is in the 60s where the owner lives and in the 50s where the holder lives today. These animals could easily be shipped back to the owner. I understand the concern over proper caging, but it really looks to me like the two have backed themselves into corners and now will not yield. Easily fixable. Take a breath.
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Forgot that the owner had moved North. Still easy enough to safely ship the animals in the current temps. Elexis contact me if you need help with that or work with someone like SYR. They will expedite.
 
I'm commenting as someone who witnessed all this childish drama on FB, and knows one of the people involved personally. Elexis has always been good and true to her word in my experience, and I've worked with her a rescue snake ect in the past. All of this started because the other girl had a tiff she didn't get her way in a reptile group and didn't have people she didn't like who criticized her banned. That started ALL of this. Furthermore Elexis has been caring for your animals for over NINE MONTHS now, and suddenly you want them back because she didn't white knight you in a dramafest on FB? Grow up. Personally, I feel, after NINE MONTHS she isn't required to do shit for you, and asking for care compensation isn't unreasonable. She's been paying for your snakes, food, heat and vet costs for almost an entire year now. You couldn't get your shit together in a year and get enclosures for these animals you claim to care about so badly then you don't deserve them. Personally, if I was Elexis, I'd just block your dramatic ass and be done with it all, because in the eyes of the LAW you have legally ABANDONED these animals a long time ago. You're just being childish and dramatic and I've seen your BS countless times on FB, you thrive on drama.
 
sociopath said:
I'm commenting as someone who witnessed all this childish drama on FB, and knows one of the people involved personally. Elexis has always been good and true to her word in my experience, and I've worked with her a rescue snake ect in the past. All of this started because the other girl had a tiff she didn't get her way in a reptile group and didn't have people she didn't like who criticized her banned. That started ALL of this. Furthermore Elexis has been caring for your animals for over NINE MONTHS now, and suddenly you want them back because she didn't white knight you in a dramafest on FB? Grow up. Personally, I feel, after NINE MONTHS she isn't required to do shit for you, and asking for care compensation isn't unreasonable. She's been paying for your snakes, food, heat and vet costs for almost an entire year now. You couldn't get your shit together in a year and get enclosures for these animals you claim to care about so badly then you don't deserve them. Personally, if I was Elexis, I'd just block your dramatic ass and be done with it all, because in the eyes of the LAW you have legally ABANDONED these animals a long time ago. You're just being childish and dramatic and I've seen your BS countless times on FB, you thrive on drama.
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So just to be sure here, You are implying that is ok to abandon a deal or change the terms if someone says something that you do not like? You will probably make quite a few "do not deal with" lists over that.
 
Try to avoid profanity, as it leads to infractions. Also, it really doesn't matter "who started it," when both parties are adding to the drama at this point. The snakes should be returned as soon as possible, regardless of whether or not the owner wants them back right now.

Trying to make this into a blame game is just going to continue to make both parties look bad, and resolve absolutely nothing.
 
Herps Alive! said:
For the record I have had dealings with both these young ladies. it is in the 60s where the owner lives and in the 50s where the holder lives today. These animals could easily be shipped back to the owner. I understand the concern over proper caging, but it really looks to me like the two have backed themselves into corners and now will not yield. Easily fixable. Take a breath.
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It was 25 last night, during the day temps don't matter when they're shipped over night...

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David Scarboro said:
Just ship her the snakes. It is beginning to sound like the purpose of this rant is to justify your keeping them. Anyone who tells you it is ok to keep something that is not yours because of something that was said is wrong. You keep fishing around for someone to agree that she "relinquished" them. I do not see it. I am sure that you will not like my advice, but is is my honest opinion.
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How many times do I have to say I DON'T WANT THEM

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David Scarboro said:
So just to be sure here, You are implying that is ok to abandon a deal or change the terms if someone says something that you do not like? You will probably make quite a few "do not deal with" lists over that.
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I'm saying Elexis took them in on a short term basis, here we are a year later almost and the girl has told her to send them back and also to keep them and its all over fb admin drama because Elexis wouldn't get involved in it. Honestly she pretty much HAS abandoned those reptiles, and doesn't seem fit in any way to even take them back currently. You want to add me to a "Do not deal with" list over stating my opinion? Go right ahead! My reputation in the reptile community is stellar, and I'm sure you adding me to your personal blacklist won't affect my buying or selling in any way shape or form as I already have set breeders I deal with, and my reputation is superb. I've never done a single thing bad for the safety of animals, or selling. I also wouldn't agree to take on someones animals for almost a year, there would be a set timeframe. That's pretty much adoption at this point.
 
Herps Alive! said:
Many experienced keepers here have told you repeatedly that the animals can be safely shipped. I agree with them.
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How many shippers won't ship below 40° degrees? I see many of them. And being the temps are so low and during the holiday shipping (you know everyone is ordering Christmas gifts and will be clogging the stations I do not feel comfortable risking the lives of the snakes just to shut her up. I actually care about the animals I have been caring for since april enough to not risk the lives.
 
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