Bad Guy Chris Maynard [email protected] Bad Customer

[MidSouthMorphs]

The pic on 12/15 8:11 pm shows the snake he had advertised at the time on Kingsnake and Fauna! This guy was only interested in sending me a second rate snake for fear of future competition.

That's a bit of a stretch. You honestly sound like you had buyers remorse.

 

[AbsoluteApril]

The pic on 12/15 8:11 pm shows the snake he had advertised at the time on Kingsnake and Fauna! This guy was only interested in sending me a second rate snake for fear of future competition.

Are these messages not correct ? It appears that the seller advised the one in the ad was no longer available and you said 'OK'.

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From: chris maynard
Date: 12/12/2015 10:36:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Message about Male Ghost 100% het Moonglow from [email protected]

I really need that Ghost for a Sire for a couple Boas I Just got .Please let me know I can Pay you the $500 shipped .

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Message about Male Ghost 100% het Moonglow from [email protected]


Sorry I just cant attached is a couple pix of the only male I have left

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From: chris maynard
Date: 12/12/2015 2:25:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Message about Male Ghost 100% het Moonglow from [email protected]

Ok, can you still do the deal for $425 for Both?

 

[Billy1138]

Are these messages not correct ? It appears that the seller advised the one in the ad was no longer available and you said 'OK'.

Absolutely my impression...

Unless something is still missing it sounds like Chris was made aware of the snake he was receiving..

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

I backed out right away way before it was to be shipped what you cant see is the pictures of the messages from thye ads I sent that was a snake he said was the same and later said looked just like the one he was pawning off on me, cause he didnt want to give me a quality snake .

Backed out of agreeing to it...since you had agreed to it. I will not split hairs on what right away might mean.

The emboldened seems like exaggeration to the point of fabrication.

The pic on 12/15 8:11 pm shows the snake he had advertised at the time on Kingsnake and Fauna! This guy was only interested in sending me a second rate snake for fear of future competition.

Again with the exaggeration to the point of fabrication.

The first one I responded to was even nicer , but he only wanted to send me him worst.It took him like 2hours to back out on the first deal.He should not have had the animals posted if he didnt want to sell them.

More of the same.

Your last sentence is true. It would have been better to have had better control of his ad. However, immediately upon contact and before the deal you agreed to be part of, you were informed of the error. You were not uninformed nor were you misinformed. Trying to twist a cruddy situation into something more severe just makes you look like a person who habitually has trouble relaying an accurate account of events.

I would argue you should be refunded in full. Hopefully, sooner than anticipated because the funds for the supply order were going to have to be spent regardless of whether or not you had made a purchase at the time. I would also say that, with the error (poor practice) made of him having spent your money before the transaction was completed, I hope you could be a little patient if he cannot repay you until the time indicated. If you try to force it when funds are not available despite him saying they will be available a bit later, it will probably only complicate things further. He is not denying that he will issue the refund despite the wait, although he has not updated to say whether or not he will concede the label point.

Any denial of you having buyer's remorse here will probably be met with disbelief.

 

[Fangthane]

Are these messages not correct ? It appears that the seller advised the one in the ad was no longer available and you said 'OK'.

The following post seems to be him saying that there was a third snake somewhere in the mix?

what you cant see is the pictures of the messages from thye ads I sent that was a snake he said was the same and later said looked just like the one he was pawning off on me

If I'm reading correctly, I think he's saying that he had agreed to buy the snake that was offered after the seller informed him that the one in the ad wasn't for sale anymore. Seems kind of odd to post an ad for a snake that he apparently had no intentions of selling. Anyway, based on the wording, I assume he's saying that the snake that the seller was "pawning off" on him - that he agreed to buy - isn't the same as the final picture of a snake that the seller stated looks just like the one being "pawned off".

Situations like this are a prime example of just how important decent grammar/syntax/punctuation can be.

 

[ElexisC]

The following post seems to be him saying that there was a third snake somewhere in the mix?

If I'm reading correctly, I think he's saying that he had agreed to buy the snake that was offered after the seller informed him that the one in the ad wasn't for sale anymore. Seems kind of odd to post an ad for a snake that he apparently had no intentions of selling. Anyway, based on the wording, I assume he's saying that the snake that the seller was "pawning off" on him - that he agreed to buy - isn't the same as the final picture of a snake that the seller stated looks just like the one being "pawned off".

Situations like this are a prime example of just how important decent grammar/syntax/punctuation can be.

He wanted the male and a het albino female, I think that's the third. Also my interpretation of his horrible grammar and exaggerations is the snake he agreed to is the one that looks like the only he wanted. But he can't take no for an answer so is continuing to insist he was having a low quality snake pawned off on him.

 

[ElexisC]

One*

But with neither one of them posting the photo (not a tiny add on that you can't even see) of the original snake and the one to be sent we have no way of knowing just how exaggerated his claims of a low quality snake really is.

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[CwnAnnwn]

I did some looking around. I am going to assume here.


Here is what I think is the ad and the original snake. It matches the small picture of the one Mr. Maynard.


Pic 2 and 3 seem to be the only snakes avaible at the same time as number 1. I am probably wrong. But since no one wants to sort this out, I am just going to start guessing. I think picture 2 is the rejected boa.

Sorry about the wild speculation. If the Buyer or Seller wants to clear this up, I am willing to say I am wrong.

For those that know morphs. Is picture 2 or 3 any better or worst then picture 1?

 

[Fangthane]

He wanted the male and a het albino female, I think that's the third.

I'm intentionally ignoring the het female, since that one doesn't appear to be in dispute. It's very possible that I just completely missed the point of his post that I quoted - my decoder ring is on the fritz - but he seemed to be making a case for there being a third male Ghost.

He inquired about snake A from the ad; snake A was suddenly unavailable so he agreed to buy snake B. If there actually is no snake C in the Ghost equation, then he doesn't really have a leg to stand on since he does seem to have clearly agreed to the substitution. If that's how the situation currently stands, the only thing the seller has done wrong is spending the money too soon - which wouldn't have been an issue of the buyer didn't end up being a flake. Comparative quality seems like an entirely moot point.

 

[ElexisC]

I did some looking around. I am going to assume here.


Here is what I think is the ad and the original snake. It matches the small picture of the one Mr. Maynard.


Pic 2 and 3 seem to be the only snakes avaible at the same time as number 1. I am probably wrong. But since no one wants to sort this out, I am just going to start guessing. I think picture 2 is the rejected boa.

Sorry about the wild speculation. If the Buyer or Seller wants to clear this up, I am willing to say I am wrong.

For those that know morphs. Is picture 2 or 3 any better or worst then picture 1?

I think the last 2 are the same 2 that were spoken about. They do look alike. There isn't a 3rd snake and that's made clear by the seller, he only had ONE other male left for sale. I'd be happy to have the boa Mr Maynard is turning down, sadly I don't have the cash right now or I'd buy it myself.

 

[ElexisC]

I did some looking around. I am going to assume here.


Here is what I think is the ad and the original snake. It matches the small picture of the one Mr. Maynard.


Pic 2 and 3 seem to be the only snakes avaible at the same time as number 1. I am probably wrong. But since no one wants to sort this out, I am just going to start guessing. I think picture 2 is the rejected boa.

Sorry about the wild speculation. If the Buyer or Seller wants to clear this up, I am willing to say I am wrong.

For those that know morphs. Is picture 2 or 3 any better or worst then picture 1?

Actually I'm pretty positive the top photo is the same snake as the last photo. A marking on the tail is making me think this, a snakes pattern is like finger prints, no 2 are exactly the same. If you look at the part of the tail in the first photo right up by the body the 2 rail saddles almost touch, same thing in the bottom photo, if I'm wrong I'm sure the seller or buyer would correct me.

 

[ElexisC]

Actually I think the first photo and the second photo of a snake is the same snake, I'm wrong about the last one. The part of the tail I was looking at isn't visible in the first picture didn't realise I was looking farther down on the other, but the first and second snake photos show the same broken head spear in the same spot and more similarities. It would be nice if the seller came back to clearify.

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[AbsoluteApril]

All 3 are different. It's not just the tail saddles, all the markings, head spear, saddles too. The top one is a little nicer than the other two IMO, it is a cleaner (less speckles) and has a darker contrast. They are all very similar but if given the choice, I would have went with #1 as well.

It looked like there were only 2 ghosts in the transaction however it's not clear now that 3 photos were found. Hopefully the buyer or seller will clarify?

 

[bobcochran]

All 3 are different. It's not just the tail saddles, all the markings, head spear, saddles too. The top one is a little nicer than the other two IMO, it is a cleaner (less speckles) and has a darker contrast. They are all very similar but if given the choice, I would have went with #1 as well.

It looked like there were only 2 ghosts in the transaction however it's not clear now that 3 photos were found. Hopefully the buyer or seller will clarify?

Pics 1and2 are the same snake. Look at the tip of the tail and the break in the head spear just about at the eyes. Pic 2 is a closer shot so you see the speckles better. Pic 3 is a different snake.

 

[AbsoluteApril]

pic 1 and 2 are not the same, look at the saddles, #4 and 5, pinched in the first snake and blocky in the second.

 

[bobcochran]

pic 1 and 2 are not the same, look at the saddles, #4 and 5, pinched in the first snake and blocky in the second.

I stand corrected!!

 

[bobcochran]

pic 1 and 2 are not the same, look at the saddles, #4 and 5, pinched in the first snake and blocky in the second.

I stand corrected!!!

 

[chrismaynard]

He told me in the Email when I sent him the ad of #1 snake that that was the one I was getting. Later I found out he lyed. He would not sell me #1 even though it was listed on Kingsnake and Fauna.Also the original ad I responded to was a nicer one still and was listed for $500. He agreed to $400 shipped and two hours later backed out and tried to sell me only a lower quality one cause I asked if we could add a female to the deal.Later I offered the Full $500 but he refused.When I learned he was only interested in selling me his poorest one I asked for my money back .He said he couldnt cause he bought rats with it and it would be 2 1/2 weeks before he could pay me back.

 

[CwnAnnwn]

Mr. Maynard.

Could you send me all the attachments in the emails.

 

[chrismaynard]

They were Pics on Kingsnake adds that I responded to, I only have the #1 and Lower quality pic he took down the Best one I responded to.