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Bad Guy MEL KRUGER - CROOK

This guy is an absolute CRIMINAL. I have no idea why the OP has not taken him to small claims court or pressed any legal action yet. Call me old fashioned, but id have been lighting this dudes stuff on fire long ago. (joking of course.....maybe)
 
LOL yes do call the police.. I can hear the conversation now "Excuse me officer, these people online were mean to me because I stole some guys snakes. They hurt my feelings and I didnt even do anything wrong...in my own mind at least."
 
To me Kruger is here only to scam and provoke. However, he is using a technique made famous by a certain auction house, continued provocation and ensuing replies that buries the scam so that future readers cannot easily see what happened. Here is the initial post:


Crook, scammer, and BAD GUY Mel Kruger.

The deal that happened that only benefited one party. The trade from hell.

So I traded a nice ivory ghost het moonglow for a rifle. The deal took a bit but went well. I then offered to trade a lot of snakes (worth over 2K) for two other firearms. I offered to trade knowing it was a loss for me, due to space limitation and other factors in my life (relocation). I figured I can use the firearms for recreation and collection and still maintain a decent boa collection. So I shipped the lot (minus one boa) to Mel. I accidently forgot to include one of the 12 boas. I was packing to move and I forgot one boa. It was a mistake. This was explained. The shipment was delayed by SYR but upon arrival to Mel’s residence, he called me saying the boas arrived fine and praised how great they looked. The next day, he told me that that that he was not happy with one male. He claimed it had a bump which means he was sick. I informed him that that was how he is and how I purchased him years ago. I never really noticed it since I attributed to his structural make-up. I explained to him was that since he has been with me for over two years, he ate, sheds, and bred perfectly. I asked him to feed him to see if he would eat. He ate with no problem. As I explained and expected.

Since he had eleven (11) boas and I had NOTHING of his, I told him to start the paperwork for the gun transfers since I know it takes a bit form dealer to dealer. He stalled and then refused. He wanted me to replace the male. I told him that the male was fine and he noticed he ate and he even commented on how pretty he was. After going back and forth with this man who never wants to talk like men over the phone, instead complain over texts, I decided to take a loss and told him that he can keep all of the 11 snakes if he sends just one of the firearms. Of course he agreed to this. All of sudden the missing boa and the proclaimed “sick” boa are no longer an issue for him. Realizing that he is trying to get one over on me and this “trade” I let it slide. I wanted to have something for my loss.

So it turns out that the gun cannot be shipped to me because of the NY laws. So now he says he wants me to PAY for shipping for the remaining boas of mine. REMAINING boas of mine – because he had sold some already. INCREDIBLE. He sold my boas already. I told him that I have shipped boas to him which was costly already and received nothing from him. There were babies, yearlings, and adults in the lot – over 30 lbs shipment across the U.S. Why would I pay to have a portion of them shipped back? What would I get out of that trade other than a huge financial loss, unneeded stress, and less of my stock of boas?

I asked him if he had anything else. He mentioned a glock 19. We then settled to have him send a glock instead. He said he would trade if his pending a deal that has not happened falls through – a deal he has been waiting on for three months. I wondered why that deal never happened! I can imagine why….Regardless of that, imagine my surprise when I log on today and see that the glock is posted for trade. So naturally, I sent him a message saying that he agreed to send that to me to make this trade right. He said no…because he thinks his glock is worth more than the boas. UNBELEIVABLE. The glock was listed for less than the other guns, but now it’s too much. Even after he said he would.

This man is a crook. He has now a total of 12 of my boas and I have NOTHING.

He has:
5.1 Ghosts het moonglow ‘15
1.1 Hypo Het Moonglow ‘15
1.1 Trip Het Snowglows ‘14
1.0 Hypo Het Anery ‘10
0. 1 Pastel Het Anery ‘08

I have:
Empty pockets and fewer boas and NO firearm

Regardless of shipping issues, gun laws…that fact remains that he has my goods and I have NOTHING.

I will be posted the conversation soon…beginning from August 26th

Buyers/traders beware.
 

I can tell you spent a good deal of time creating those very well thought out posts, Mr Kruger. Unfortunately, I consider the content to be disruptive and off topic. The infraction you will receive momentarily - for the most recent one - should be considered a warning. If you can't find the words to express yourself properly, you might reconsider continuing to post. Should you continue in that manner, you'll likely find yourself without privileges here. (I suspect that the infraction could well trigger a temporary ban...I'm okay with that - but there won't be any tolerance for such antics if you continue upon your return.
 
Has anyone ever admitted or known someone that was forced out of business or suffered financially due to the this BOI forum? I'm thinking the damage done here is temporary and quickly forgotten.
 
Has anyone ever admitted or known someone that was forced out of business or suffered financially due to the this BOI forum? I'm thinking the damage done here is temporary and quickly forgotten.

I have known of some entities in the former category and many more in the latter category. It is not "due to the BOI forum", but is instead due to actions and behaviors brought to bear here that provide dissuasion among prospective customers who seek such information. In many cases and depending on tactics of sellers, the former category is less common, but the latter category gets populated rather often.

There are plenty of prospective customers who 1) do not care despite the information available or 2) do not actively seek to protect themselves and therefore stumble into transactions precipitously while full of near-willful ignorance, but at least a portion of prospective customers do pay attention and -often enough- decline the progression of transactions with one seller (or buyer) in favor of alternatives that appear less risky or better behaved.

A number of the people who eventually get kicked off of here for rule violations while repeatedly and emphatically proclaiming they are unaffected by the revelations here and do not need Fauna go to great lengths to return despite that. Attempts at re-registration to sell here under new false identities. Attempts at getting friends, acquaintances, and associates to try to sell animals here on their behalf. Neither of which is permitted. Both activities refute the claims made.

It affects things at least a little. Sometimes a lot. There are multiple factors that drive which way it goes, but I do not want to diverge and go deeply into a discussion that is better suited for the feedback forum or a general business discussion area. How might this affect Mel? Time will tell. Sales may receive impact. If he is a convicted felon in possession of firearms and/or has used a relative to acquire them to circumvent the law regarding that, then the impact could be even more meaningful. If so, his would not be the first case where these things have been brought to the surface here and then had escalation follow.
 
Has anyone ever admitted or known someone that was forced out of business or suffered financially due to the this BOI forum? I'm thinking the damage done here is temporary and quickly forgotten.


Absolutely. Have you ever heard of DTS herps or Backwater reptiles? Go check their Tax filings before and after they had the spot light put on them for being scammers with questionable ethics and zero moral fiber.
 
my point being; during this whole thread we watched how kruger was selling alex's animals (despite a Bad Guy warning right under his fb link on Google) and was wondering if most people just ignore this forum completely.
 
I'm pretty sure he sold most of them on Facebook, I'm willing to bet the people that bought them never knew to look here.
 
I'll probably never buy anything from DTS or Backwater..but if kruger made amends with alex (verified by alex) I would consider buying from him.:eek:
 
Oh and the comment about ripping off Kruger's kritters let this be a lesson to whoever tries to you will get ripped off you hit the nail on the head and I am a hard nose when I believe in myself I will not move an inch
If he had made things right with Alex a few months ago and hadn't posted 10+ childish, immature posts full of butts I might consider it. At this point I would not feel confident that he would behave like a mature business man if there was some kind of issue with the transaction, shipping or animal itself. I would honestly be afraid I would get screwed if he decided that I was trying to scam him. Like he said in this quote, if he thinks someone is trying to rip them off he will rip you off. He's shown that he only sees things the way he wants to so what if the animal has a RI when it arrives at my house? I can send proof till I'm blue in the face but if he decides I'm a liar then what are my chances of him working with me to fix the issue?
 
I would consider buying from him in a very rare circumstance where he had something I desperately needed; and yeah I'd be sweating throughout the whole transaction.
 
Has anyone ever admitted or known someone that was forced out of business or suffered financially due to the this BOI forum? I'm thinking the damage done here is temporary and quickly forgotten.

There is another level to this that I think a lot of people overlook.

Short answer: Search engines are an immense tool and this site does get ranked pretty highly in a lot of categories. If your name is here, people WILL find it. What do you want people to see when that happens?

I get emails sent to me fairly often from people who have long standing "bad guy" threads here about them asking, demanding, and sometimes begging, me to remove the threads about them because now, later on in life, they are finding that prospective employers or business partners are using the internet to research candidates for positions, and these threads are popping up for them to review.

So yeah, if someone wants to be a bad guy and screw people over because it is actually easy to do, go right ahead, I certainly cannot stop you preemptively. But don't come crying to me later on when you find out that your poor choices today will affect you dramatically tomorrow. I didn't make that bed that you are sleeping in now, YOU did. And no, the threads here about you, no matter how old, and no matter what you WANT, will NOT be deleted.

So choose wisely the path you want to take with your life today. Even if you only want to be a clown and make an ass out of yourself here now, go right ahead. It might not matter to you now, but how's that crystal ball working out for you concerning your future? Think you may come to regret that when someone important to your future sees it?
 
Has anyone ever admitted or known someone that was forced out of business or suffered financially due to the this BOI forum? I'm thinking the damage done here is temporary and quickly forgotten.

My mistake; besides the typo, was not using "ignored" which seems to be more of what happens. The problem here IMO is that the bad guys seem to walk away laughing and the members who've been screwed stay screwed.
 
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