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Info Spectrum reptiles Barry lambert

Actually inthink 2 indictments for smuggling is pretty relevant to folks choosing who to and who not to do business with. So I put it out there. it's an info thread. No I don't like Barry. Why would I. If I did I'd make a good guy post about him.
 
Shahedayat,
If you want to discuss YOUR issues with Jay, please take it to a thread about him - it doesn't really belong in this one. I am being tolerant of Barry's focus on Jay because it was Jay that initiated this thread.
 
Actually inthink 2 indictments for smuggling is pretty relevant to folks choosing who to and who not to do business with. So I put it out there. it's an info thread. No I don't like Barry. Why would I. If I did I'd make a good guy post about him.

Reading that post, Jay, it could be interpreted as you started this thread primarily because you don't like him. There is no requirement of having done business with someone to post a thread; but starting threads like this, out of what can be perceived as pettiness, often backfires.
 
Shahedayat,
If you want to discuss YOUR issues with Jay, please take it to a thread about him - it doesn't really belong in this one. I am being tolerant of Barry's focus on Jay because it was Jay that initiated this thread.

ok sorry I was simply responding, it's really not that important to me.
 
Jay already texted me regarding the matter. I want nothing to do with someone like him.

You continue over and over again to say very vague references to me and my animals and your treatment yet not once have you posted proof. I texted you to post in public on the boi in a thread about me. You refused. Flat out refuse. Because you know you are not telling the truth. But you want to smear me? I did nothing to you that is unethical. Did not send you sick animals. Post proof start a thread.
 
You continue over and over again to say very vague references to me and my animals and your treatment yet not once have you posted proof. I texted you to post in public on the boi in a thread about me. You refused. Flat out refuse. Because you know you are not telling the truth. But you want to smear me? I did nothing to you that is unethical. Did not send you sick animals. Post proof start a thread.

I didn't refuse anything Jay, you have the same texts that I do. If you'd like to prove anything why not post it yourself ? I said nothing untrue only my experience dealing with you and your temper. I reached out to Barry when you said you were no longer going to help when the animals fell sick shortly after receiving them. It was nice to know I wasn't the only one who had been treated badly by you. I played nice because you still had 2 animals I had paid for and didn't want to risk you not sending them out of spite. I regret it now but I've learned not to be so naive.
I wish you well but want nothing more to do with you or to engage in another thread regarding you.
 
I didn't refuse anything Jay, you have the same texts that I do. If you'd like to prove anything why not post it yourself ? I said nothing untrue only my experience dealing with you and your temper. I reached out to Barry when you said you were no longer going to help when the animals fell sick shortly after receiving them. It was nice to know I wasn't the only one who had been treated badly by you. I played nice because you still had 2 animals I had paid for and didn't want to risk you not sending them out of spite. I regret it now but I've learned not to be so naive.
I wish you well but want nothing more to do with you or to engage in another thread regarding you.

Except to continue to not
Post any proof whatSo ever
 
Except to continue to not
Post any proof whatSo ever

It starts in January. I'm not going to sit here and post everything we discussed for the last 5 months. Please go ahead and be my guest and post it all. I have nothing to hide, but after reading over most of it I don't see how this is going to help your case.
 

Shahrokh,
Consider this a reminder that posts in blue are moderation. Apologizing, then continuing to be a disruptive influence is ill-advised, and likely to cause further action. If I have to address this matter with you again, it isn't likely to be as a friendly warning.


Jay, fighting back on that issue, in this thread, is just as inappropriate.

If I have to remove you both to stop this, it won't cost me a moment of sleep
 

Shahrokh,
Consider this a reminder that posts in blue are moderation. Apologizing, then continuing to be a disruptive influence is ill-advised, and likely to cause further action. If I have to address this matter with you again, it isn't likely to be as a friendly warning.


Jay, fighting back on that issue, in this thread, is just as inappropriate.

If I have to remove you both to stop this, it won't cost me a moment of sleep

Ok. Understood
 
Charges dropped at a later date Julia.
You are under no obligation to discuss the dropped charges, there was no conviction. However, I think it may be helpful to briefly discuss the issue and by so doing just put it to rest, and move forward.

All I'm reading is a bunch of mud slinging back and forth.

There seem to be two BOI posts with each of the parties trying to out the other for anything they can get their hands on.
There is a big difference between a factual in depth investigation, or even relevant questions about a particular transaction, and vague, hostile name calling.

I think now that all parties have had a chance to rest, and review what has been written, I'm hoping that they will proceed with a more businesslike demeanor.
A year from now when people review these threads, part of what they will take away is how the parties responded. That is relevant to them, because they will use that information to judge how they may be treated in a transaction.

People everywhere want good customer service, an assurance that they will get good honest treatment, and that critters sold to them are healthy, legal, and that their sellers will take care of any issues that come up right after the transaction in a fair way. And they want sellers who are approachable, who are fair, and courteous.
 
WOW
Thought I had accidentally opened farcebook and not Fauna this morning!
So I guess this post is as off topic as at least 50% of the posts in this thread ( not even got to the "other" thread yet!)
All I see is two supposedly grown adults behaving like 8 year olds!
You should both be ashamed of yourselves!
 
Correction

You are under no obligation to discuss the dropped charges, if there was no conviction.

I think that today's large companies realize that public perception should be at times dealt with, not ignored.
Here there is creditable past history. For your own benefit, showing that any recent charges were not valid would help allay any customer perceptions that there might be a continued history which may adversely affect sales.
While you are certainly entitled to address what you wish, there is a time to be transparent in an effort to maintain positive public perception.
 
Well after reading some lame smut...... I've bought over five turtles from Barry over the years, and remember him from the turtle forum way back in the day. All of the Turtles I have gotten have been supper healthy Captive bred and well cared for. Top seller, breeder. Also the guy will sit on the phone with you and tell you how to set up a proper set for the turtles that you are buying.
Tell me what else you could ask for from a reptile breeder?
Mike.Wolfkill
 
Well after reading some lame smut...... I've bought over five turtles from Barry over the years, and remember him from the turtle forum way back in the day. All of the Turtles I have gotten have been supper healthy Captive bred and well cared for. Top seller, breeder. Also the guy will sit on the phone with you and tell you how to set up a proper set for the turtles that you are buying.
Tell me what else you could ask for from a reptile breeder?
Mike.Wolfkill

Very simple...to act his age and not have little temper tantrums and to bring his drama with a person he obviously does not like here to Fauna?
He claims to be a professional businessman? About time he started to act like it dont you think?
:shrug01:
 
That's a long time ago that's not the man I dealt with very concerned about his animals.


2014 isn't a long time ago, his latest indictment was 2 1/2 years ago.

Who cares about old court cases? It would seem Barry learned his lesson and moved on. I for one have had nothing but excellent interactions with Barry, from chatting via social media to the awesome customer service from his employees both over the phone and at shows.


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