A tad defensive are we? How isn't Zovick relevant to the thread .. someone posted in their for sale ad that the tortoise was offspring of # 443 .. oh .. that would be you

But .. wait ... no one sold you offspring of #443 that he is aware of .. you were asked who you got the tortoise from as proof from 443 .. more Swiss cheese! The Dr. brought him in as proof that you weren't honest .. I don't recall you proving otherwise ... and you alleged that Tuan had the tortoise or was in the process of buying it and he contacted Zovick for confirmation on "your" information .. I don't see where you confirmed it for him. Could appear you sold a tortoise to the Dr. that you falsely represented in your ad .. easy enough to prove otherwise .. yet here we all sit waiting
At the end of the day .. I don't think the Dr. is a victim ... far from it .. but appears you too have been less than forthright and transparent .. I know enough about English to know when someone (you) states ... "You're buying him already" .. that implies he is in process of buying or considering buying ... not has bought it ... and he wants to confirm the tortoises lineage before he finishes the process ... something I don't believe you provided along with all the other proof you seem to have but for whatever reason choose to hold back

Just my opinion based on my limited understanding of the crux of this thread ... lol!