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Bad Guy SCAMMER!!! Jay Mcnight / Jason Ciconne/ Franklin Chams Chams/SCAMMER

Lol no. It showed how he sent you a screen shot of what it was telling him since you wouldn't send the invoice in his wife's name and everything, says how you "want that money!" Among other things. Is that why YOU won't post the full thing?

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ElexisOrtiz said:
Explain you sending photos Craig, you lied to a moderator about this too. The photos you sent of the animals have been posted now.
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Craig Wyatt said:
I never even denied those photos. I didn't claim them either.
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Craig Wyatt said:
In the past 3/4 months I've sold well over 150 panthers. Various locals, sizes, and looks. I do not always take pictures of every animal I sell but I have prob more than 1000 Panther pictures. I can't be sure on the exact animals I sent.
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It's been a long day for me, so perhaps I am misunderstanding the photo issue. Craig is saying that he wasn't sure which animals were sent, yet there were photos of them? Am I misunderstanding?
 
Lucille said:
It's been a long day for me, so perhaps I am misunderstanding the photo issue. Craig is saying that he wasn't sure which animals were sent, yet there were photos of them? Am I misunderstanding?
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He said clear as day earlier in the thread he had NO photos of the animals sent, I just quoted the first one that said it to bring it to the front to show that, yet the wife posted emails from Craig of pictures of the exact animals he sent. Then Craig says he can't find that email and claims these things can be faked, something doesn't seem right to me especially since Craig himself won't post all the texts and refuses to watch the video they posted although fill of profanity it shows every text, explains away everything Craig tried to say. I'm not wanting to take sides but it's not adding up
 
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Both filed chargebacks. HH sorry I can't clarify the exact animals by picture. But I did put a theory out there. I'll repeat it. Let's just say for arguments sake that I sent him bad animals. Just for arguments sake. I offered a 100% refund the same exact day. What more can someone do than that.
If you were here at my place for 1 month straight you would have a better understanding of the shear volume I do. Animals are constantly being shipped in along with eggs hatching plus all the orders i fill. Man it's a lot. But I do it very well. My animals are well cared for and I have BOAT LOADS of happy customers. Not bragging it's just the simple honest truth. Nothing more nothing less. I love what I do. I don't even feel like it's a real job most of the time because of all the enjoyment I get out being surrounded by really cool critters.
I'm small potatoes compared to others but I am a 1 man show. I do it all. Well my son does help me too. He is in charge of watering everyone 3 times a day which is a huge help.
** if I had those pics to share they would already have been posted.
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Here's another, his reply to a moderator

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I do not have the patience or the time to watch a video made by Jay.

I would like all the pictures of the texts (that is where I stopped watching) and all the pictures of the chams uploaded to fauna.

I want to read the texts with bout a running commentary or Jay reading them off.

Jay had ample opportunity to comment here before his ban, yet he chose to drag up 14 y/o posts. I don't know the exact reason he was banned, but I know it wasn't so bad hat he couldn't comment here.

I'm not picking anyone's side, I need more information to do so. Attach all the texts, screenshots of emails and pictures. With a video, I cannot zoom in on a pic to see better.

Quite frankly, I see the video as trying to circumvent a ban & it can be deleted.
 
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He said clear as day earlier in the thread he had NO photos of the animals sent, I just quoted the first one that said it to bring it to the front to show that, yet the wife posted emails from Craig of pictures of the exact animals he sent. Then Craig says he can't find that email and claims these things can be faked, something doesn't seem right to me especially since Craig himself won't post all the texts and refuses to watch the video they posted although fill of profanity it shows every text, explains away everything Craig tried to say. I'm not wanting to take sides but it's not adding up
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Craig, you need to provide an explanation, without it, your credibility has evaporated. An explanation does not mean dancing around the issue by talking about how it is possible to fake stuff.
 
I hope I did this right. Did it from the browser since this phone won't let me attach from Tapatalk atm.

But Craig explain how you thought "I got them theyre good" minutes after grabbing the box at the hub as I got threw a forcefield of tape and inspected all the animals in 5 minutes.
 

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Craig, you need to provide an explanation, without it, your credibility has evaporated. An explanation does not mean dancing around the issue by talking about how it is possible to fake stuff.
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Does it really matter if he sent pics or not?! Jay, jason, julia whoever u wanna call him should have sent them back if they were sick. Got the refund and posted here about his experience. You can't have your cake and eat it to.
 
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Does it really matter if he sent pics or not?! Jay, jason, julia whoever u wanna call him should have sent them back if they were sick. Got the refund and posted here about his experience. You can't have your cake and eat it to.
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At this point yes it does, because by Craig's own words he lied to us and the moderators

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Also I know myself and probably a few others would not send sick animals back to be put right back in a cage and sold to someone else. If the story about the money order is true then the charge backs I think are acceptable in my opinion because he would have MORE than what Craig paid for the animals that were actually sent for 8 more that didn't show. And now that I have caught that lie thanks to the photos posted about the email and the email itself (which the full texts PROVE Craig lied about sending pictures in the first place, probably why he won't post them all himself) I now doubt he has no clue about the 8 other chams. Why 2 boxes? The second box is claimed to be empty. Really wish they would have done an unboxing video as that would have proved that charge too

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Also I know myself and probably a few others would not send sick animals back to be put right back in a cage and sold to someone else. If the story about the money order is true then the charge backs I think are acceptable in my opinion because he would have MORE than what Craig paid for the animals that were actually sent for 8 more that didn't show. And now that I have caught that lie thanks to the photos posted about the email and the email itself (which the full texts PROVE Craig lied about sending pictures in the first place, probably why he won't post them all himself) I now doubt he has no clue about the 8 other chams. Why 2 boxes? The second box is claimed to be empty. Really wish they would have done an unboxing video as that would have proved that charge too

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That Jay paid not Craig.

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Also anyone else find it funny that when this was going Craig's way he responded immediately, but now that tables have been turned a bit he's not here?

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This was from my tamatave ad back in June. For sure he absolutely recieved these 2. He went out of his way to request these because of the ad. These are 2 of the 3 younger tamataves.
 

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Also I know myself and probably a few others would not send sick animals back to be put right back in a cage and sold to someone else. If the story about the money order is true then the charge backs I think are acceptable in my opinion because he would have MORE than what Craig paid for the animals that were actually sent for 8 more that didn't show. And now that I have caught that lie thanks to the photos posted about the email and the email itself (which the full texts PROVE Craig lied about sending pictures in the first place, probably why he won't post them all himself) I now doubt he has no clue about the 8 other chams. Why 2 boxes? The second box is claimed to be empty. Really wish they would have done an unboxing video as that would have proved that charge too

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Regardless where it's ethical to ship the sick animals back it should have been done. When youre dealing with this amount of money you either ship them back, keep them and maybe work a deal out for a discount or leave it as is. You CAN'T have the animals and the money. Not all were presumably suck. And we all know damn well he's going to be selong these damn soon. That's more than a double dip!

Craig you're wasting your time here bud. Make some phone calls if you want to see your cash. I would have a long time ago.
 
Here's the young adult. I have many many pictures of him. I bought him for myself. But I changed my mind. He was also posted right here on fauna in June.
 

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