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Bad Guy Craig Wyatt Scammer Bad Guy Selling Sick Animals

Jay Sick said:
How do you think you know so much what makes you so sure of your self to make these assumptions ???? never met me or craig yet so much to say. It's fine cause you will look just as bad as craig. How many chams did craig offer you to speak against me on here ??
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I don't own chameleons and don't want to, I have snakes and a few geckos (don't even have any geckos for sale, just pets). I've been around long enough to know how wholesale works, and if you're going to tell me you wouldn't accept a full refund on animals that arrived unhealthy then you're full of it.

But thank you for showing me up on how to "make assumptions", you're obviously a pro lol.
 
Jay Sick said:
if i dont sell them they are with me till next show kept in some very favorable conditions but since you said what you said you must be right. lol hahah
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So you're saying that you buy chameleons right before a show to sell them, without quarantining or holding them to make sure they're healthy first?

But if they don't sell at that first show you do house them and care for them properly until the next show? Well that's a relief, I'm sure people who buy from you would be extremely happy to hear that.
 
MCMB Reptiles said:
So you're saying that you buy chameleons right before a show to sell them, without quarantining or holding them to make sure they're healthy first?

But if they don't sell at that first show you do house them and care for them properly until the next show? Well that's a relief, I'm sure people who buy from you would be extremely happy to hear that.
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im sorry but you are 2 ridiculous you don't have to quarantine captive bred animals from people unless those people lie to you. you have just show you know nothing and are not credible SEE YAH LATER CHIEF
 
Jay Sick said:
im sorry but you are 2 ridiculous you don't have to quarantine captive bred animals from people unless those people lie to you. you have just show you know nothing and are not credible SEE YAH LATER CHIEF
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Oh ok, well as long as you can trust everyone that you talk to. Obviously that's worked out well for you so far based on the fact that you made this thread.
 
I guess that anyone who buys from you will just have to trust that you trust the person you're buying from, and then hope that no one will ever lie to you to try to turn a profit quickly. Because no one has ever done that before. :)
 
MCMB Reptiles said:
I guess that anyone who buys from you will just have to trust that you trust the person you're buying from, and then hope that no one will ever lie to you to try to turn a profit quickly. Because no one has ever done that before. :)
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do u want the last word is that what it is ? you can have it lol
 
I posted this as well in the other thread. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1945084#post1945084

Why didn't the vet x-ray the animals?? Technically a visual examination isn't an acceptable method to diagnose "MBD". For example in a number of reptiles aberrant thermal fluctuations in the egg result in deformations that could be visually mistaken for "MBD" but on x-ray that option is clearly ruled out.

Why didn't the vet provide a treatment program for the animals? You do realize that an unfit for sale letter isn't valid for reptiles, right? It is only valid with respect to a dog or a cat. see https://www.animallaw.info/statute/n...ection-act#s93
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:“Animal” means a cat or dog.
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I'm surprised that your vet would be willing to put their name on a certificate for an animal that is not covered by that law, they should have known that this was not an acceptable letter by the definition of the law ...

some comments

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Jay Sick said:
because they needed to be treated and not sent in the mail what kind of monster sends back sick animals to die. they were said to be unfit for sale so they should have never been sent in the first place that's animal cruelty. I saved them as best i could i took on the task craig is scum for doing this.
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Funny this is your response now. You sound all nice and caring. A month ago you said you didn't trust me to send your money back after you shipped back the animals.
Hmmmm. Which is it Jay?
Bam. Caught in your 25th bold face lie.
 
Craig Wyatt said:
Funny this is your response now. You sound all nice and caring. A month ago you said you didn't trust me to send your money back after you shipped back the animals.
Hmmmm. Which is it Jay?
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He has to change his story until he finds something that works. I'm sure he'll think of something else before too long.

Never really wanted to get into chams but I might have to give you some business after seeing how much this guy is making you put up with lol
 
Jay Sick said:
im sorry but you are 2 ridiculous you don't have to quarantine captive bred animals from people unless those people lie to you. you have just show you know nothing and are not credible SEE YAH LATER CHIEF
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Yet another glaring example of base stupidity. Putting your scam and all of your countless, conflicting, dim-witted lies aside, the above statement shows that you absolutely have no business dealing with animals. Yikes. Some innate sense of self-preservation should have already led to you to ham-handedly fumble your way through some degree of damage control within these threads, but it seems that innate idiocy won out over that long ago. You really are woefully stupid. I don't even mean that pejoratively; just a simple statement of sad fact.
 
Jay Sick said:
im sorry but you are 2 ridiculous you don't have to quarantine captive bred animals from people unless those people lie to you. you have just show you know nothing and are not credible SEE YAH LATER CHIEF
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You don't have to quarantine captive bred animals?
That is a naive statement, to make, and an irresponsible practice with newly arrived critters. smh

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Pasodama said:
You don't have to quarantine captive bred animals?
That is a naive statement, to make, and an irresponsible practice with newly arrived critters. smh

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Yes. Let's take something like inclusion body disease in boids. Because "captive bred animals" don't need quarantine. I don't know what specific diseases chameleons might have, but I don't know that I'd blindly trust anyone to "promise" me their animals don't need quarantine.
 
Well Jay just made a second video. But he posted it on Facebook on Chams gone wild. It's pretty awesome. He talks about me and every other member that posts that they are retarded and a bunch more stuff. It's a long video about him complaint about fauna and the mods and other forums and it's all politics and bla bla bla. To many F bombs to post here though or I would.
 
I would not waste 5 minutes of my time to watch or listen to any delusional diatribe he comes up with.
 
My guess is Jay is a guy who usually gets his way by bullying and blustering. From his posts here, that certainly seems to be his style. No reasoned arguments or presentation of evidence or facts, just a lot of blowhard type statements that are opinions. And the typical whining about the BOI being set against him. What he doesn't seem to realize is that there are hundreds of threads where individuals have tried to fool everybody and it doesn't work. Heck, fake letters from vets have been done before. None of these little schemes are new, no matter how creative a scammer may think he's being.

Jay, I don't believe for a moment you have "legal counsel". However, if those letters are fake, you're going to need it because that vet is going to come after you in court for doing that. I will say that the letters are far more intelligently written than you seem capable of. So either someone helped you with them, or you really convinced the vet to write them. But the problem with that is that no one has any clue whose chams you took to the vet. You've provided no proof at all that they were the ones Craig sent you. The vet writing that they were from Craig is hearsay, and does not prove one single thing. Had you more accurately documented their condition and provided evidence from the vet immediately, that would be more convincing.

I always try to keep an open mind. But Jay, you have not shown yourself well here. I think VERY few people who check the BOI will ever have anything to do with you, and that's not on Craig, that is 100% on you. But hey, if it's all a waste of time, why are you here? Why do you care?
 
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