Bad Guy Ty park/ ty lizards FL

[hognose1]

Your a POS liar...I hope Mr. Ty Park sues you for this post...

 

[Sugarhedgie]

Your a POS liar...I hope Mr. Ty Park sues you for this post...

woah.....

this is what Mr Park wrote in this thread
"Originally Posted by typherp View Post
A good friend sent me a brief message while I was in the plane getting ready to takeoff, headed home to Chicago. The message simply said in entirety as follows:
"Hey Ty,

Don't respond to the fauna BOI. She's trying to take advantage of you, plain and simple."

This was the first I heard of a recent post on FaunaClassifieds as I haven't been active on that site for a while now.

I have no time to read all the comments or even the initial complaint made by Michelle as I rather spend my valuable time during this precious season with my family and friends. It's is just a speck of irritation on my glass-is-always-full-life.

When IRCF (International Reptile Conservation Foundation) was having difficulty with it's fund raising efforts to help save some of the critically endangered iguanas, I wanted to step up and help. After couple days of thinking, I decided that the best way for me to help them right away was to run a raffle for one of my most desired species (albino tegu) that would be produced in 2016. At this point in the year, I was mostly sold out of animals that I produced in 2015 and I was also tapped out on my giving to reptile related causes, which exceeded $50,000 in 2015.

I ran the idea by IRCF, which is a registered non-profit, and they agreed that we should give it a try. The idea was for me to donate 2 albino tegus to raffle off to raise funds. In addition, I also donated a third albino tegu to a donor who wanted to donate $2500 for one albino tegu---instead of participating in a raffle. We collectively raised more than $7500 (it might be closer to $9000.00 but I can't remember the exact figure at the moment) for IRCF.

What I forgot or didn't think about at the time of the raffle was that there are two types of albino tegu: one is typical albino which are T- albino and the other is highly priced T+ or Purple albino tegu. These were produced by breeding heterozygous blue tegus, so the outcome of which albino or how many by looking at the parents or the eggs are useless. I typically sell my T- albino blue Tegu's for $2500 and T+/purple albino blue tegus for $5000. In 2015, most of my albinos were T- with only two being hatched as T+, which I kept as future breeders. That result was what I was expecting in 2016 but it didn't turn out that way---all the albino tegus I produced were, to my surprise, T+ albinos. At this point, I decided to tell Michelle and others that, although I produced albino tegus, they were all expensive type and that I would buy 3 normal T- tegus from a friend to send to them. I could have just bought the tegus from a friend and shipped them without them knowing but I wanted to be honest and open. The other two winner and buyer was more than happy and gracious but not Michelle. She wanted the $3000 instead because "I didn't produce albino tegu"---which I clearly did. If she approached me and asked for money because she needed the money due to her financial need, I would have most likely to helped her by sending her the money but I felt that she was rather being greedy instead. At this point she started to inundate me with questions which I did not want to answer knowing what kind of person she was and that anything I say might be twisted by her to her advantage, so my answer to her was none or very short. I decided also that I would send her the tegu that I produced (T+ albino) since her contention was that she wanted one that I produced and not by someone else, but I didn't communicate that with her to the end because I wanted to see what kind of person she was and she was greedy to the end. I ask for her address twice so that I could ship her the tegu but she refused each time. After the second refusal, I decided to auction off the tegu I was going to ship her to raise more money for IRCF, which we did to the tune of more than $5000.

Soon I received a registered letter informing me of a lawsuit filed by her in MA. After much thought, I hired an attorney to take care of the lawsuit and fight her claims in court. We decided to ask for change of venue as it would be difficult/inconvenient for me to attend this court case and because the farm is in FL. After few back and forth filing amendments, my attorney set up a phone session with magistrate judge on Dec. 13. At this meeting, she asked for a tegu but I refused because I didn't think she deserved it and that tegu I saved for her was auction off already. I offered her $400 to reimburse her for the raffle tickets she purchase. The next court date is in February and I'll let the judge decide what is right. All I wanted to do was to help the animals in desperate need. In the future, I would still try to help animals in need but with caution. If I see a suffering dog in an enclosed car, I am still going to break the "law" and damage someone's property.

I am currently dictating this response in flight so that once at home, I would not waste my valuable time on this. This will be my one and only post. I'll let others judge me for my actions positive or negative. This time of the year is great and fun time for me and I wish everyone the same---great holiday season filled with love of family and friendship. Here's looking at 2017 with open arms and open hearts.

Ty





so miss Amanda Martinez please tell me where I have lied please?

 

[Casey Hulse]

Although I do not know either party, I felt that I had to post my opinion.
I have been following Ty on FB for a while, and have been very impressed by what I feel is a genuine concern for the wildlife that he works with,many species are quite threatened in the wild for a number of reasons. Then I notice his "circle of friends" many of them I have known for years as being pioneers in habitat restoration and work with critically endangered specie of turtle and iguana. In particular Rick Hudson from the Fort Worth Zoo and Turtle Survival Alliance. I do not know Mr. Parks, but if he is friends with Rick Hudson, then he is "good people" in my book.
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.

 

[Black Adder]

Although I do not know either party, I felt that I had to post my opinion.
I have been following Ty on FB for a while, and have been very impressed by what I feel is a genuine concern for the wildlife that he works with,many species are quite threatened in the wild for a number of reasons. Then I notice his "circle of friends" many of them I have known for years as being pioneers in habitat restoration and work with critically endangered specie of turtle and iguana. In particular Rick Hudson from the Fort Worth Zoo and Turtle Survival Alliance. I do not know Mr. Parks, but if he is friends with Rick Hudson, then he is "good people" in my book.
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.

WHAT?
Did you even READ any of this thread?

All I see is somebody who made the rules of the raffle and then broke them and then his own arrogance led tho this BOI thread......

Only thing I can say so far that is halfway good about Ty is that he said he was only going to make one post....at least so far he has kept his word on that ......

His "circle of friends" have absolutely no bearing on the meat of this thread at all, in fact they are more damning of his attitude to this problem if anything!
You really need to go and read his single post and tell us all that you feel that is a fair response to this mess.

 

[Black Adder]

Let me clarify my previous response a little more as I was pretty shocked and stunned when I read that post!

I am not about to state that Ty has not done many good deeds previously and been a great supported of endangered wildlife etc etc.

However we try to deal with facts germaine to the current situation here in the BOI and right now things do not look good at all for Ty!

I have read and reread the entire thread from its inception and I am in no doubt at all that Ty is clearly in the wrong AND his own smug arrogance has led to this thread existing and he may find that 3k would have been a VERY small price to pay for the possible ramifications of his actions.

I have no desire to enter in any arguements or trash talk with other posters but I fail to see how any other conclusion is possible from the information we have been presented with so far.

If Ty has something more to add I am sure we would be delighted but so far he seems to believe one condescending post is a good enough defense on his part.

 

[DavidBeard]

Although I do not know either party, I felt that I had to post my opinion.
I have been following Ty on FB for a while, and have been very impressed by what I feel is a genuine concern for the wildlife that he works with,many species are quite threatened in the wild for a number of reasons. Then I notice his "circle of friends" many of them I have known for years as being pioneers in habitat restoration and work with critically endangered specie of turtle and iguana. In particular Rick Hudson from the Fort Worth Zoo and Turtle Survival Alliance. I do not know Mr. Parks, but if he is friends with Rick Hudson, then he is "good people" in my book.
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.

So because he donates to charity that excuses him from scamming people and running illegal raffles?

Very surprised to see this post from you Casey. You, at one point many years ago were one of my favorite people to do business with.

 

[Lucille]

Surely there must be an updated form, I can't find it. Can y'all who are search experts help please?

 

[bcr229]

Surely there must be an updated form, I can't find it. Can y'all who are search experts help please?

Search in AZ not CA.

IANA lawyer but I have been serving as the treasurer for a 501c3 organization for the past few years. We've also held raffles, we push a lot more than $50k per year through our books, and we've been audited (which was not fun).

After looking over the information that has come to light over the last few days I don't believe that legally the OP has a valid lawsuit against Ty Parks. The people who participated in the raffle tickets paid the IRCF, not Ty, for their tickets. The OP's contract is with the IRCF and the IRCF owes her the prize (either the albino tegu produced by Ty or $3,000 cash); Ty merely offered to donate the prize(s) to be awarded to the IRCF. If he hasn't done that then that's between the IRCF and Ty.

The IRCF messed up by offering as raffle prizes - the albino tegus - that Ty hadn't yet produced. This isn't the first time I've seen people get into a pickle because the results of a clutch were not as expected. I'm a bit surprised that no one at the IRCF suggested waiting until the eggs hatched out before announcing the raffle, as a lot can go wrong with clutches.

So... the raffle is advertised, tickets are sold, the drawing is held, winners are publically announced and notified - and months later one of the winners hasn't received her prize and is understandably upset. I don't believe the IRCF can simply return the $400 she paid for tickets and call it even under current gaming laws by claiming that the tegu she won never existed. That's a large legal loophole that would let any charity hold a raffle but never have to give away a prize. Also, the $3,000 cash prize should exist.

While Ty was very well-meaning with his donation for the raffle, his actions afterward have put the IRCF in a rather precarious position, especially if this raffle wasn't registered with the state of AZ. The IRCF board can't ignore the problem and say it's between the OP and Ty, because it's not, and the OP could cause the IRCF a lot more than $3,000 worth of trouble if she wanted to right by filing a consumer fraud complaint with the state.

 

[Lucille]

The IRCF board can't ignore the problem and say it's between the OP and Ty, because it's not, and the OP could cause the IRCF a lot more than $3,000 worth of trouble if she wanted to right by filing a consumer fraud complaint with the state.

I believe the OP is already talking to various people in AZ including a letter to the IRCF.

 

[Fangthane]

Your a POS liar...I hope Mr. Ty Park sues you for this post...

I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.

I was wondering how long it would take for more of the groupies to put in an appearance. I'm not sure how someone could even make such posts after having had the decency to do the reading necessary to come to an informed decision. I have to surmise that you either didn't feel the need to do so; or you decided that protecting the name of a once-good man is more important than trying to see his wrong righted. Either way, you're just

If Ty Park is covered in mud, it's simply because he started flinging it at the OP and his efforts ultimately backfired once the situation was brought here, where most of us are much more interested in helping victims than we are in protecting those who've actually done the victimizing. Gotta love seeing how easily some can set integrity aside when it may not be a matter of convenience; when those who've clearly wronged another don't happen to be some faceless, unknown villain who's easily condemned without some personal cost.

 

[Lucille]

Search in AZ not CA.

Thanks. I was expecting info in Ca because they are a California corporation.

 

[Lucille]

So, I'm off to investigate California non profit raffle law.


That is interesting. The non-profit is out of California so California law would apply. They simply have their mailing address out of Tucson. Also, their status is suspended. Under Arizona law they would not be able to conduct a raffle in this state. That said, you will have to check with the laws of California concerning raffles since that is their jurisdiction for this particular non-profit unless they have filed in Arizona as well. You’re a better researcher than you give yourself credit for.

Thank you,
Aiden Fleming
Government & Tribal Relations Manager
Arizona Department of Gaming
1110 W Washington Street, Suite 450
Phoenix, Arizona 85007
Office: 602.255.3879

 

[DavidBeard]

This is starting to sound like some kind of weird money laundering project directed by JJ Abrams, lol.

 

[Fangthane]

So, I'm off to investigate California non profit raffle law.

Wondering if Ca's DoJ website is maybe not thoroughly updated, or what. Considering what part of the first screenshot says, outlined in red, it seems like we should be seeing where IRCF filed the necessary forms to run a raffle. However, when I enter the area where I can view which forms they've filed over the years, I'm not seeing anything regarding raffles. Wonder what that could mean?

To view the site yourselves, follow This Link, and then enter 'International Reptile Conservation Foundation' in "Organization Name" text field.

 

[Mike (The M)]

I was wondering how long it would take for more of the groupies to put in an appearance. I'm not sure how someone could even make such posts after having had the decency to do the reading necessary to come to an informed decision. I have to surmise that you either didn't feel the need to do so; or you decided that protecting the name of a once-good man is more important than trying to see his wrong righted. Either way, you're just

If Ty Park is covered in mud, it's simply because he started flinging it at the OP and his efforts ultimately backfired once the situation was brought here, where most of us are much more interested in helping victims than we are in protecting those who've actually done the victimizing. Gotta love seeing how easily some can set integrity aside when it may not be a matter of convenience; when those who've clearly wronged another don't happen to be some faceless, unknown villain who's easily condemned without some personal cost.

I agree that Ty is in the wrong here, and that there are people who are blind followers. I don't agree with the way he has gone about handling things.

But, does this instance invalidate him as a good person? From all we can see, he believes he tried to make an effort to right the situation by providing an albino blue produced by someone else.

His terms didn't read that way, but he felt it was reasonable.

Does that warrant the witch hunt for the charity he donated the money to, or the maelstrom that could ensue for them?

Did Ty hold the raffle in association with the IRFC? There is so much repetition here, it's hard to find "just the facts."

 

[Lucille]

Here is some statutory language about raffles. From this chapter, although there may be updates or exceptions, it appears that the raffles are supposed to take place in California

http://law.justia.com/codes/california/2011/pen/part-1/319-329/320.5/

 

[Fangthane]

But, does this instance invalidate him as a good person? From all we can see, he believes he tried to make an effort to right the situation by providing an albino blue produced by someone else.

His terms didn't read that way, but he felt it was reasonable.

Yes, I think it goes pretty far in showing that he's not a particularly good person, despite whatever he may have done for charity. To righteously judge a situation like this, I think it needs to be looked at in a vacuum. Anything outside of that which directly applies to this dispute shouldn't come into play.

It seems he was unable to procure said replacement animal from an unnamed source, so that's a fairly moot point. However, him deciding that a course is reasonable to him doesn't equate to that idea being a universal fact. Although he's trying to hide behind some pretty flimsy semantics, I think it's pretty clear that he was to provide either an animal hatched by him, from his own stock; or give the winner $3000 if he was unable to produce them. He made a contract and eventually decided to change the terms when he couldn't live up to the original ones.

The OP only wants what any reasonable person should expect - what the terms dictated she'd receive. Once the dispute arose, I can't see much of anything even remotely laudable about how Ty Park chose to handle their disagreement. So, yeah, as I'd said before, I think adversity has forced some of his true colors to shine through. To my eyes, they're not very flattering shades.

Does that warrant the witch hunt for the charity he donated the money to, or the maelstrom that could ensue for them?

It's looking like the responsibility for ensuring that all winners receive their prize may very well fall at the IRCF's feet. When given a chance to intervene and involve themselves in actively helping someone who never received their prize, the person who runs the IRCF seemingly couldn't care less about her plight. If his organization hasn't done anything wrong, this "maelstrom" won't really impact them in any way. If, on the other hand, their fundraising efforts aren't entirely on the up-and-up, Mr. Binns may end up regretting his disinterest in being more concerned and helpful.

Did Ty hold the raffle in association with the IRFC? There is so much repetition here, it's hard to find "just the facts."

Yes, that's been established and covered repeatedly.

 

[Lucille]

So this is turning out to be a bumpy ride:


From: "Raffles" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 2:24:58 PM
Subject: RE: Form submission from: Contact the Registrar

If you are conducting any raffle activities in California you must register and report in California, and the draw must be conducted here.

If you are not sure that the raffle your organization is holding is in compliance with section 320.5, you may wish to seek legal counsel if you deem appropriate. You may also wish to review the information on the websites listed below:
https://oag.ca.gov/charities/raffles
https://oag.ca.gov/charities/faq#raffles


Thank you,
Raffle Desk
Department of Justice/Attorney General’s Office
Registry of Charitable Trusts
P.O. Box 903447
Sacramento, CA 94203
(916) 445-2021 Ext. 9
http://oag.ca.gov/charities



If no raffle activities were conducted in California then the organization would need to adhere to Arizona laws.

Thank you,
Raffle Desk
Department of Justice/Attorney General’s Office
Registry of Charitable Trusts
P.O. Box 903447
Sacramento, CA 94203
(916) 445-2021 Ext. 9
http://oag.ca.gov/charities

 

[Black Adder]

I agree that Ty is in the wrong here, and that there are people who are blind followers. I don't agree with the way he has gone about handling things.

But, does this instance invalidate him as a good person? From all we can see, he believes he tried to make an effort to right the situation by providing an albino blue produced by someone else.

His terms didn't read that way, but he felt it was reasonable.

Does that warrant the witch hunt for the charity he donated the money to, or the maelstrom that could ensue for them?

Did Ty hold the raffle in association with the IRFC? There is so much repetition here, it's hard to find "just the facts."

As far as I can see the only reason that a witch hunt may ensue is because of Ty,s pure arrogance in this matter.
As stated earlier 3k may be chump change to the fallout that looks like is developing

 

[DavidBeard]

I fail to see how people bringing up the moral/ethical short comings of having a "charity" raffle by offering high dollar animals or the promise of cash prizes and then refusing to deliver those prizes as promised qualifies as a "witch hunt".....seems like bringing dishonest practices to light in several arenas.