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Robert Sloan of Dallas, TX

I don't completely believe Bob, but without conformation from Steve, everything is supposition. If I were Bob, I wouldn't do anything either, without word from Steve. Since Steve refuses to communicate with Bob, it puts him in an awkward position, he can't spend the money, as the snakes are still in his possession, he can't ship the snakes without additional funds & a date when someone would be there to receive them and he can't refund without word from the seller that is what he wishes.

Actuality he can, he can send a certified letter w/signature to his place of business with a postal money order & a letter stating that due to the cease in communication, he the seller has chosen to terminate the transaction. Enclosed is the refund, minus the cost of the certified letter & $30 (reasonable care amount IMO) for the care and loss of sale due to the buyers ceasing communication. This is what I'd do. I wouldn't want to continue to be in limbo over the buyers lack of communication. You can't keep the money stating partial payment, as it was payment in full at the time of the deal.
 
Snake-Queen said:
Actuality he can, he can send a certified letter w/signature to his place of business with a postal money order & a letter stating that due to the cease in communication, he the seller has chosen to terminate the transaction.
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Even operating under the assumption that all Sloan says is true, ending this situation is literally that simple. Even if I could muster a view of his intentions that's as undeservedly optimistic as your own, his choice to needlessly drag this out still reflects very poorly on him. With such an easy out, I have to suspect that he's sincere in his apparent belief that he's somehow entitled to keep all of the money.
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Enclosed is the refund, minus the cost of the certified letter & $30 (reasonable care amount IMO) for the care and loss of sale due to the buyers ceasing communication.
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IF, and that's becoming an ever-larger IF, he could prove his version of events, I'd agree that that's reasonable. He claims to have already posted all of the "contact" between them; the only phone calls he's mentioned thus far are unanswered ones. With that in mind, I have to say it's looking more and more like Steve's supposed 180-degree-turn on accepting the exorbitant overnight-shipping quote may exist only in Sloan's mind.
 
Fangthane said:
Even operating under the assumption that all Sloan says is true, ending this situation is literally that simple. Even if I could muster a view of his intentions that's as undeservedly optimistic as your own, his choice to needlessly drag this out still reflects very poorly on him. With such an easy out, I have to suspect that he's sincere in his apparent belief that he's somehow entitled to keep all of the money.
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I have a suspicion that he does indeed believe he is entitled to the entire amount, which is why I stated that he couldn't call it a partial payment.

I may be optimistic, which is why I keep trying to give Sloan an out. Even guys with less than desirable backgrounds can do good. Unfortunately, I don't believe this is going to happen, because why would Sloan continue to drag this out when he has a very simple way to end this, especially if the version of the events he put forth is correct.

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IF, and that's becoming an ever-larger IF, he could prove his version of events, I'd agree that that's reasonable. He claims to have already posted all of the "contact" between them; the only phone calls he's mentioned thus far are unanswered ones. With that in mind, I have to say it's looking more and more like Steve's supposed 180-degree-turn on accepting the exorbitant overnight-shipping quote may exist only in Sloan's mind.
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It is probable that Steve sending more funds is a lie, as the last I read from Sloan is that Steve said ship 2 day & he'd accept responsibility if the animals died.
 
Rose smelling farts

Hope this post does not offend anyone....I have called Steve, I have sent an email to Steve. I will be sending him a certified letter tomorrow with a required signature and return receipt - not sure he will accept it because he is intent on filing some issue as opposed to accepting his snakes. I will not refund any money. He bought these at the end of December and told me shipping was spotty - you think? Temps in Michigan were never once above 30F at night and most of the time they were in the teens. Daytime temps there are still below 40F most days and colder at night. No one in this business or hobby would ever ship even overnight with temps like that and if anyone would - probably not going to end well. My only mistake was thinking I could ship third day as temps were very mild on my end and I have never shipped live animals like that. Apparently Steve or Evan did not know this either. I have his snakes and they are healthy, exceptional and feeding. I will ship them as soon as I receive the funds that will allow me to ship as per UPS/Fedex regulations - Overnight. I have posted actual screenshots of all of our messages and my email. I will do nothing more until Steve decides to act. It does not really matter what anyone here thinks because I have the money and the snakes and the ability and willingness to ship at Steve's request. Steve needs to respond.
 
Alterna Ranch said:
Hope this post does not offend anyone....I have called Steve, I have sent an email to Steve. I will be sending him a certified letter tomorrow with a required signature and return receipt - not sure he will accept it because he is intent on filing some issue as opposed to accepting his snakes. I will not refund any money. He bought these at the end of December and told me shipping was spotty - you think? Temps in Michigan were never once above 30F at night and most of the time they were in the teens. Daytime temps there are still below 40F most days and colder at night. No one in this business or hobby would ever ship even overnight with temps like that and if anyone would - probably not going to end well. My only mistake was thinking I could ship third day as temps were very mild on my end and I have never shipped live animals like that. Apparently Steve or Evan did not know this either. I have his snakes and they are healthy, exceptional and feeding. I will ship them as soon as I receive the funds that will allow me to ship as per UPS/Fedex regulations - Overnight. I have posted actual screenshots of all of our messages and my email. I will do nothing more until Steve decides to act. It does not really matter what anyone here thinks because I have the money and the snakes and the ability and willingness to ship at Steve's request. Steve needs to respond.
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I do not understand this (bolded).

Why continue to drag this out? The easiest solution is to refund and resell to a customer who will actually communicate with you. Unless, your reputation is so tarnished, that reselling them to someone else at the asking price is nearly impossible.

If your version of events is exactly how this transpired, then I for one would NOT want to deal with a customer who drops off the grid. Especially, since he doesn't appear to want the snakes any long nor pay additional funds for shipping.

Are you hoping to keep the $445 & the snakes? That would be my interpretation of why you refuse to terminate the transaction & refund. That sir is theft, regardless if the customer is communicating or not. I have given a way to end this, yet you refuse. Screams scammer to me.
 
Refund

Here is why I am not refunding any money right now. Steve has mentioned having his attorney send me the additional funds for overnight. He has cut off all communication. Evan Stahl posts Steve is filing some kind of legal complaint and as a result - I'm not doing anything until I see where this is going. I have no intention of keeping both his snakes and his money - he will will get one or the other, but not until this issue has been resolved and I do not think that is out of line based on the threats posted here by Evan Stahl, which by the way.....where is Evan? Crickets Chirping continues.........I have made a request via certified mail that Steve resolve this to both our satisfactions. Guess we will see what he does or doesn't do at this point. I have one of the most diverse, rare collections of Crotalus in America, as well as, some other very rare reptiles. I sell out every year. I got this pair in a trade and although they are super nice - not something I keep with 150+ alterna and 250+ Crotalus; not to mention all of the Texas protected reptiles - pre act and documented. So selling them to someone else is not the issue - he bought them and I have sat on them since January at HIS request due to his weather - not mine. I have done everything I can do and proven it beyond any doubt.
 
Resolution request sent

Today I have sent both a certified letter and the same letter via regular US mail. This letter is an offer to resolve this sale and issues. I have made every effort possible and posted only true and correct PROOF of this entire transaction. I will not do anything further until I hear from Steve Garvin. Both receipts show this went to Traverse City, MI
 

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Thats funny you can reply to this thread BUT NOT THE THREAD ABOUT YOU STEALING MY PICS CLAIMING TO HAVE CB ALBINO SCARLET SNAKES FOR SALE WHEN YOU DONT!!!!!!!
And I just saw your facebook post where youre bad mouthing leucistic gray banded kings... and you STOLE my pics and Stu Tennysons pics.... NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT BOB?????
 
Hey Little Mikey

I have albino Texas Scarlet Snakes - they are documented in Letters of Permission from Texas Parks & Wildlife. Please call TP&W @ (800) 792-1112 and ask for Christopher Maldanado if you would like verification of my ownership of Albino Scarlet snakes before you run off at the mouth like you usually do. I also did not claim the pics of the "leucistic" alterna, but used the pics posted on the net for reference to show that those alleged "leucistic" alterna are in face a hybrid garbage snake created in captivity. Since I have a collection of 328 alterna - all collected by me or captive hatched from wild caught alterna by me, I think I know a garbage hybrid when I see one. And if in fact they are true leucistics - WHERE IS THE DNA PROOF? There is none because they are NOT a true leucistic like you and others claim. And if you ever want DNA testing done on those hybrids, please let me know as I can direct you to any number of graduate students at Texas A & M who will do it for you FREE! NO? Figures cause you'd rather try to sell FAKE leucistics then provide proof. A warning to anyone that is thinking about paying the insane price Mike Fezden is asking....at some point if you breed these garbage snakes out over a period of time - they will prove out to be just that - garbage hybrids. Show us some DNA or shut up!
 
Beating a dead horse

I'm done with the leucy alterna thing - anyone dumb enough to pay that for what is obviously a hybrid...well like John Wayne said - Life is hard - it's harder if you're stupid.
 
Back to the Bullsnake sale issue

So far I have called, emailed and sent a certified letter with a return receipt and so far I have not gotten the letter back as refused or the return receipt, so it looks like Mr. Garvin is refusing my letter. I did, however, as I always do when sending a certified letter, send one just regular mail with a stamp - so he got it no matter what. I'm not doing anything until I hear from him. Pics of the pair he bought....
 

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Well....

...since you'd like to continue beating a dead horse. I have over 8500 pics - all thumbnailed as I've been collecting reptiles LONG before you were born. As a result, I posted the wrong pic and did not really think anything about it since those pics are all over the net and I had no idea it was yours I most likely saved your pics for comparison to mine which are Texas Scarlets, not floridas. Had you contacted me in a civilized manner - there would've been no problem, but since you are an arsehole clearly - you chose to pick a pissing match. You reap what you sew Mike. And I can piss with the best of 'em! Are we done yet?
 
In a civilized manner? I asked you take down your ad where you were advertising MY SNAKES, and your response was "prove it". Civilized. Youre a joke.
 
Well, I guess he wanted to give you free money (if he refused a certified letter, stands to reason he'd refuse a second one with a USPS MO). He's probably been listening to Stahl too much.

Update us if he contacts you or the cops do. ��
 
Certified Letter

Steve Garvin received and signed for the certified letter I sent on 04/11. Not sure why the post office took until today 04/21 to get the return receipt back to me. Still no word from Steve, his "attorney" or USPS. Guess the ball is in his court at this point cause I'm not doing anything until I hear from someone on his end. And by the way....what happened to Evan Stahl? He sure got quiet after I put him in his place with facts. :time_waiting_01:
 
Hahaha you are so stupid you just keep the threads about you at the top of the site and every day more and more people learn about you and know to avoid you like the plague that you are! You are doing such a great job that you don't need me anymore. hahaha
 
Hey Evan

You've already been proven here to be a liar and a coward, so no one is listening to you anymore. I've already almost totally sold out on the 250+ eggs cooking right now, with a lot more on the way - not to mention my vast high end Crotalus collection, so your posts have not and never will affect me. Now crawl back into your hole where you are safe little boy. And, hey - where is Steve Garvin at these days?
 
hahaha yeah right. you have 1000 animals in your apartment? How am i a coward exactly Bob robert sloan? you have threatened so many people that have posted about it and then run away and hid, not sure how you can call anyone a coward convict. I have not lied about anything. You keep displaying your character using other people's pictures of their animals to try to sell animals you do not have and have never had. I love your taxidermy page where the people who own the items you have taken credit for and tried to sell came to tell everyone what a fraud and thief you are. You can talk all you want convict. I have better things to do with my time.
 
Dead Horse

The post about John Wiley Price from Dallas was NEVER posted on my Facebook Page. Apparently you people are not up to date on FB policy. Had I ever posted that on FB, I'd have had my account terminated. Whomever posted this on Fauna, took that post from another site and added it to a page they set up in the name - "Alterna Ranch". I actually found the page and contacted FB and they deleted it for me. I did post what I said about John Wiley Price - and he is right now awaiting a jury decision on dozens of Federal charges and like his partner in crime - Al Lipscumb - will never go to jail because if he did the blacks in Dallas would burn the city to the ground just like they threatened to when Al got convicted on 63 Federal counts if he went to jail - the court sent him home and now he sits on the Civilian Police Review board in Dallas - but last time I checked - the first Amendment to the US Constitution was still Federal Law and if you do not like what I have to say - then fine - don't read it. A great deal of posts that get attributed to me are actually others intent on bad mouthing me - Even Stahl for example - setting up posts, accounts here(in the past I've been told) and on other sites. If, however, I post something - I'll back it up and say it to your face or I will not post it. All of the threats attributed to me are lies and other people posting that garbage in my name. If you threaten anyone like what I have read or been told I said - it is a crime in all 50 states. So those threats are also untrue and never came from me. I also - Evan - do not live in an apartment, but own homes in Dallas, Del Rio and Mexico. I do not keep a 100 snakes as I've cut way down on my collection and I have a partner that keeps many of our reptiles. I just moved about 200 of my alterna to Germany. I focus now on my Texas protected, Crotalus and other rare, hard to get reptiles. I just brought in 7 Fiji Iguanas from Spain into my home in Mexico, while you Americans have NONE of those and never will - and yes I had the proper Mexican import permit to do so. God I hope Trump eliminates the ESA and severely reduces USFW. As for contacting the University I attended - you are a low life POS to do that, but to no avail as I graduated in 2013 with a BS in Criminal Justice and in 2015 with a MS in Criminal Justice. And again, since you are not smart enough, and most likely a libtard - you are not aware of the first Amendment regarding free speech. The University I graduated from cannot do ANYTHING about ANYTHING I say or post and you have no clue - until I graduate - where I attend school for my PhD. As of this date - I still have not heard from Steve Garvin. I will not do anything until I do and if in fact he has hired an attorney, I'll just let him run up a big legal bill to no avail as I've done nothing wrong in this deal. He'll end up spending a lot of time and money trying to get me in trouble for nothing and in the end, I'll still have his money or his snakes.
 
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