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I purchased a male albino Burmese python from Bob Clark on Wednesday May 31st and received him Thursday June 1st. I was told the snake is "eating rat pups". After seeing how small it was I inquired and Bob said the snake was hatched May 15th. That was two weeks from hatched to shipped. From what I understand it takes up to 10 days for first shed. How many rat pups could it possibly have eaten? I have it in a tub with the temps/humidity correctly and sent a pic to Bob. My issue it his snake will not eat or even attempt to. When I messaged his Facebook page I was told I was doing something wrong.

Is this my fault? Was this snake shipped too soon and should I just return it since it's not eating?

Just for the record I have had snakes for almost 10 yrs and not a new keeper.

Thanks
 
The standard may be first shed & 3 feedings, but not all follow this.
Contact them again & find out exactly how many times it has eaten.

PM me if you need advice or to bounce ideas off someone.
 
A baby burm could easily be living off the "yolk" from hatching for a good 7 days possibly more tbh.
So I would find it highly unlikely it had more than 1 meal of rodent if at all any in just 2 weeks.
At that age if I was selling it would be described as "out of the egg" and sold at a lesser price than a fully established hatchling
 
I know from experience that he sometimes ships boas as soon as they are born, I received one, and he said it would be no problem to start, it was NOT a problem to start, but that was a boa, burms are different.
It is usually very easy to get a burm started, and may be easier than returning it, just ask what Bob would prefer, either you assist, ( a frozen thawed rat pink slipped down their throat) or return. Let him know you are having issues, and see what he suggests. Bob has handled 10's of thousands of baby burms, and I think he will take care of you either way.
Best of luck, and feel free to ask ?? in the Python forum.
 
Casey Hulse said:
I know from experience that he sometimes ships boas as soon as they are born, I received one, and he said it would be no problem to start, it was NOT a problem to start, but that was a boa, burms are different.
It is usually very easy to get a burm started, and may be easier than returning it, just ask what Bob would prefer, either you assist, ( a frozen thawed rat pink slipped down their throat) or return. Let him know you are having issues, and see what he suggests. Bob has handled 10's of thousands of baby burms, and I think he will take care of you either way.
Best of luck, and feel free to ask ?? in the Python forum.
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Theres no "but that was a boa" There are many instances it takes months to get some baby boas to eat, some fail to thrive and die without ever taking a first meal. It is NOT good business practice to do this and no body should be making excuses for it!

We breed boas I would NEVER send one out without a first shed and at least 3 meals in a row, so sometimes that can be more than 3 feedings. Bob clark has been slipping. He sends out supers that don't prove, Non hets as hets, males sold as females and he fixes NONE of it! Bob Clark may have been good once, but he is not any more.
 
ElexisC said:
Theres no "but that was a boa" There are many instances it takes months to get some baby boas to eat, some fail to thrive and die without ever taking a first meal. It is NOT good business practice to do this and no body should be making excuses for it!

We breed boas I would NEVER send one out without a first shed and at least 3 meals in a row, so sometimes that can be more than 3 feedings. Bob clark has been slipping. He sends out supers that don't prove, Non hets as hets, males sold as females and he fixes NONE of it! Bob Clark may have been good once, but he is not any more.
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You don't think he will fix this or accept a refund?

What happens then..I'm stuck with force feeding or a dead snake?
 
desertman said:
You don't think he will fix this or accept a refund?

What happens then..I'm stuck with force feeding or a dead snake?
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pretty much. that's why he slammed Ryans animals at the Texas show, he sold him animals that weren't what he said genetically and some weren't the right sex, so Ryan didn't pay him the last $1000? and that's when Bob came to his table and physically assaulted the animals and got into an altercation with Ryan. the whole show saw it, I can't remember which, but he will say Ryan lies and bad mouth Ryan but Ryan is straight up about not paying him the rest because he won't fix the wrong he sent. Ryan doesn't want any backlash for the show either, Bonnie is going through enough. but anyone who knows Ryan Sullivan can attest this is true. Bob even deleted my comments on his post and messaged me just to bad mouth him. not sure if I still have the messages I can check if anyone requires proof.

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Casey Hulse said:
Let him know you are having issues, and see what he suggests.
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desertman said:
When I messaged his Facebook page I was told I was doing something wrong.
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Can you please post a screen shot of your message and the reply, and who it was that replied? I can't tell because it isn't here whether the reply was meant to just blow you off, or whether it was a helpful reply- advising that temps were too low or something similar.


desertman said:
You don't think he will fix this or accept a refund?

What happens then..I'm stuck with force feeding or a dead snake?
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There are forums here, someone has offered to help via PM; so I advise that you try to help the snake even as you continue to try to work with Bob over these issues.
 
Daniel, that snake and every snake in the clutch fed every time offered food. I'm sure you're doing something wrong even though I haven't been able to figure out what it is. I've been in communication with you several times every day working with you on this. I will happily send you another snake if you pay the freight cost. Bob
 
ElexisC said:
pretty much. that's why he slammed Ryans animals at the Texas show, he sold him animals that weren't what he said genetically and some weren't the right sex, so Ryan didn't pay him the last $1000? and that's when Bob came to his table and physically assaulted the animals and got into an altercation with Ryan. the whole show saw it, I can't remember which, but he will say Ryan lies and bad mouth Ryan but Ryan is straight up about not paying him the rest because he won't fix the wrong he sent. Ryan doesn't want any backlash for the show either, Bonnie is going through enough. but anyone who knows Ryan Sullivan can attest this is true. Bob even deleted my comments on his post and messaged me just to bad mouth him. not sure if I still have the messages I can check if anyone requires proof.

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Your information is not correct. Ryan Sullivan never mentioned a problem until he was more than a year overdue with his payment. He offers no proof for his claims. For me its about the money, for Ryan its about his character and his honor. I'd rather lose the money.
 
ElexisC said:
but anyone who knows Ryan Sullivan can attest this is true. Bob even deleted my comments on his post and messaged me just to bad mouth him. not sure if I still have the messages I can check if anyone requires proof.
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That was quite a post, Elexis. I'd like to see proof of everything you said.
 
Lucille said:
That was quite a post, Elexis. I'd like to see proof of everything you said.
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in what form? there wasn't video, it was live at the show, notice how Bob didn't deny it. Bob's messages to me that I never replied to. Screenshot_2017-06-21-16-43-20.png

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he didn't deny the altercation in those messages either. just insults Ryan and says he lies. not a very good way to drum up business, messaging people insulting others but never actually denying what took place at the show.

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Probably won't reply much, I have seen many instances of people getting things from Bob miss sexed, genes didn't prove, etc and he NEVER fixed any of it, not even refunds or partials for his screw ups.

selling babies out the egg or moms? disgusting. I can't imagine why anyone would want to buy from such a person. Take my word or don't. I don't have video of the altercation, kinda wish I did lol but either way, take my word or don't, but I need to get back to my own sales, snakes, and kids. Pretty busy these days. just thought it was funny I saw yet another thing posted about Bob Clark.

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ElexisC said:
Probably won't reply much, I have seen many instances of people getting things from Bob miss sexed, genes didn't prove, etc and he NEVER fixed any of it, not even refunds or partials for his screw ups.
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Prove your allegations


ElexisC said:
never actually denying what took place at the show.
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Elexis, have others who saw what happened come here and post. It is not good proof to point out that someone doesn't deny something.
 
Bob Clark said:
I've been in communication with you several times every day working with you on this. I will happily send you another snake if you pay the freight cost. Bob
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Bob, are you going to continue to advise him and let him keep this snake and send him another if he pays shipping?
 
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