Bad Guy Mitch Whyte (WHYTEARK)

[Lucille]

I agree with the second post. Definitely disagree with the first.

 

[Stephenson8011]

The amount of people who think business owners can treat people horribly because they have quality product is frightening.

Right?!??

Not to mention the face a person like that would give the reptile community.

But hey...He has quality animals and he apologized so we should just let it go

 

[Mark M]

"But hey...He has quality animals and he apologized so we should just let it go"

Yea you should. What would make you happy? To keep this going for weeks? For Mitch to fall on his sword? Its done. Get on with your lives.

 

[JCCS]

For me, the apology would have been just fine if he had not completely denied the statement was homophobic in the same sentence. When you do not accept responsibility for what was said and deny what you said was on the level of what it was on, any apology is as pointless as a pouty three year old whose mother forced them to say "Sorry". Again, this goes beyond just mouthing off. I would have almost understood that as I would have been frustrated with a negative review being posted for very dubious reasoning. He did not simply mouth off at the OP though. He used a bigoted slur. That's a whole new level that teaches you not only about his maturity level, but about how his entire psyche works. This is not much different to me than Tom Pecanic calling Mike from outback a "n&*#$%" the other day, and the only difference is only in what we knew about the person before the statement was made.

 

[Stephenson8011]

"Yea you should. What would make you happy? To keep this going for weeks? For Mitch to fall on his sword? Its done. Get on with your lives.

Thanks for telling me how I should live my life Mark, but I’m not very susceptible to the opinion of people that brush blatantly offensive remarks under the rug.

As for what I would like to see happen: well I would like to see the same thing happen that would to anyone else in any other profession as I stated previously. Anyone else would lose their job over a remark like that so let’s start there.

 

[Mark M]

"As for what I would like to see happen: well I would like to see the same thing happen that would to anyone else in any other profession as I stated previously. Anyone else would lose their job over a remark like that so let’s start there."

Reality check: He's self employed. Do you want him to fire himself? Not sure how much you contribute to his yearly income, but he lost your business so I guess in some way he lost his job to you. So now its time to move on possibly discuss people who really are bad buyers and sellers.

 

[Stephenson8011]

you know, for someone that wants this to be dropped, your spending an awful lot of time perpetuating it.

You must think I didn’t realize he was self employed.

Reality Check Mark: it’s called bankruptcy

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

You desire that he go bankrupt? And that is the start?

 

[Stephenson8011]

I don’t believe that anyone who thinks in such terms should be a face for any hobby I’m a part of, I would consider him to be a disgrace to the reptile community and I would hope that enough people would feel the same way that he would go bankrupt. So yes

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Oh, I see. I have never sought to have people agree with me or face financial ruin for not thinking the way that I do. There are certainly many kinds of people. It would be a shame if they were forced to adhere to one person's ideology. That includes my own.

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Since that is simply a start or the start, what comes after he has been driven into bankruptcy?

 

[Lucille]

I think there are two separate issues: Thoughts and feelings, and expression.

I think each of us has dark thoughts at times, perhaps arising from the way we were raised, events that have happened to and around us, etc. One cannot really stamp out a thought that pops up, other than to possibly think about it, deal with it, and perhaps come to the conclusion that it is not really what we want to see in ourselves.

Expression is a different matter. We are in charge of what we say. Some recrimination may be justified if someone expresses a hurtful thought. Mitch has apologized for his expression. It is up to him right now to face his hurtful thoughts and hopefully come to the conclusion that he wants to change how he thinks. If he does, I think onlookers should consider any positive change.

Going forward, his future expressions may show whether he is making an effort to come to terms with what he said.
However, in my opinion, those who have come here and said that they do not care how one person talks to another as long as the critters sold are nice, those people have missed the entire, important struggle of thought and expression. To their detriment, I think.

 

[caffeinecynic]

"Mitch was baited, yes.
Being a business owner means not rising to that bait. It means being above that."

Rarely post here but here's my two cents......The beauty of being a business owner is you can run your business anyway you like......If you choose not to buy from him now because of a left handed comment...don't. If he sells quality animals (which he does), I could care less what he says, I'll buy from him. Also the guy apologized (several times) and your all still berating him. What else do you want him to do? Commit suicide? Would that finally satisfy you? Geez....it's over and done. Get on with your lives............

If you choose not to buy from him now because of a left handed comment...don't.

Don't worry... I won't. I prefer to buy from sellers who, if they by chance lose their temper, are willing to admit they were wrong without excuses. The beauty of this hobby is that there are plenty of options and I won't lose any sleep over adding Mr. Whyte to my "Do not buy from" list.

No one is suggesting Mr. Whyte harm himself. No one is 'berating' him. We are assessing the situation. I think you might want to back away from the thread - you are going to extremes. I would never wish ill on someone - let alone for a moment of weakness wherein they make a statement I disagree with.

Words are just words.

 

[jfburke1983]

Well if this about whether he is a bad guy nope. I am sure every person is guilty of calling someone a homophobic slur or said "oh that's GAY" so get off the high horse. And show Mitch the respect he deserves. This post was uncalled for how many people inquire about animals and lose interest? 1st come first serve! That's the rules. This a really weak reason to try to claim he is a bad person. Even with the homophobic remark. If calling him a "sissy" is going to be that bad. What about the Spanish guy that called me a "cracker" and hit me with a rock. For me sissy doesn't hold much weight. He was merely calling him a whiny b}€£h. In not so many words.

 

[Akiranar]

Well if this about whether he is a bad guy nope. I am sure every person is guilty of calling someone a homophobic slur or said "oh that's GAY" so get off the high horse. And show Mitch the respect he deserves. This post was uncalled for how many people inquire about animals and lose interest? 1st come first serve! That's the rules. This a really weak reason to try to claim he is a bad person. Even with the homophobic remark. If calling him a "sissy" is going to be that bad. What about the Spanish guy that called me a "cracker" and hit me with a rock. For me sissy doesn't hold much weight. He was merely calling him a whiny b}€£h. In not so many words.

So, having bad customer service, because yes, verbally attacking a customer is exactly that, is not a reason to avoid a seller? Riiiight.

I might not like dealing with certain people who show up at my store and make a mess, but I also don't treat them like garbage.

And yes, if someone starts calling customers slurs in front of me, be if homophobic, racist, or sexist, you damn right I am not going to be dealing with them.

A Maine candidate for state house called one of the victims of the Parkland Shooting a homophobic slur and it ended his career. When you deal with the public, you need to be respectful to them or you are damaging your reputation and that of your job.

 

[Mark M]