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Bad Guy Rick Harrelson~ Be warned

Put them in the box I shipped them to you in and send them back. I'm fine with that.

I did not tell you they were 100% het ghosts~ I told you they were a failed ghost project. I wrote FAILED GHOST PROJECT on thier ID cards in red sharpie when I sent them. I do wish I'd spent more time talking with you online and realized you were unbalanced before I sent my snakes to you.

You did not talk to me last week.
Hire a lawyer~ PLEASE! LOL!

Do I really need to post up my saved copies of the advertisement I ran and your emails? I can~ if I save pics of all the animals you have in your possesion what makes you think I dont have EVERY SINGLE word you ever typed to me saved?
 
Cheryl,
Did you really mean that Rick Harrelson was supposed to send you a pied next year?
Or was it supposed to be a hypo? (since this was a hypo project)
 
He promised me a pied repeatedly~ even after I told him I did not expect a pied. I have that email~ I'll get it if he tries to say he didn't. I told him what I wanted was for him to share whatever he produced from them with me~ I think that was my wording. I don't think I even asked for a hypo~ just that he share with me if he was lucky enough to prove them. This was a male supposedly het hypo that I got from a reputable source and his baby daughters over two years. The 06 babies were that male bred to a normal female~ the 07 babies where that male bred to supposed 100% het hypo female (he did not get that female!). That supposed 100% het hypo male and 100% het hypo female had failed to produce hypo's over 2 years (07 and 08) breeding and 15 babies. I was disgusted with the project and just wanted it gone. Wish I'd chosen who got it more carefully.

I really didn't expect him to send me a pied though he promised. I expected him to pay shipping and forget about me actually.........and I would not have put his name on the BOI if he had just done that.
 
MONEY ORDER ON THE WAY SORRY DID NOT KNOW YOU NEEDED THE MONEY THAT BAD WHEN WE TALKED ON THE PHONE IT WAS NO PROBLEM SO WHEN I SEND REG. MAIL I WILL POST A PIC OF IT SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW SHE WAS PAID
 
Thank you
That won't change the bad name you've made for yourself~ and I'd really rather have my snakes back (didn't you say you would send them back?) I can think of DOZENS of people I'd rather give them to than you.

But then~ I do have your promise of an 09' pied male in writing. You keep the snakes~ send the shipping as you agreed to do on 10/14/08 and I'll be back in contact for my pied male in 09. Thanks
 
WILL I AM SENDING HER THE 35.00 REG. MAIL OK I TALKED TO HER ON THE PHONE AND SHE HAD NO PROBLEMS NOW THIS I AM TRULY SORRY FOR THIS MISUNDERSTANDING BUT SHE COULD HAVE CALLED ME I HAVE NOT BEEN ON MY FOOT IN OVER 2 MONTHS SORRY FOR THIS AND I HAVE TOLD HER THIS IT MADE ME MAD A H--- WHEN SHE DONE THIS BECAUSE NOT MATTER WHAT YOU BELIEVE IT IS NOT THE WAY SHE MADE IT SOUND , BUT PEOPLE I GUESS FEEL SORRY FOR HER I DID WHEN SHEN WANTED ME TO PROVE THESE OUT
 
Why try to put that kind of spin on things - you didn't pay her. Regardless of whether she needed the money, or just didn't want to (in effect) pay for the privilege of giving you 7 snakes in exchange for a promise, you owe her the money. You earned your place on the BOI.
BTW, how is the money order on the way? The post office is closed, so you couldn't have purchased or sent it. (besides, you admitted you haven't sent it when you said you would take pics when you do)
 
Thank you
That won't change the bad name you've made for yourself~ and I'd really rather have my snakes back (didn't you say you would send them back?) I can think of DOZENS of people I'd rather give them to than you.

But then~ I do have your promise of an 09' pied male in writing. You keep the snakes~ send the shipping as you agreed to do on 10/14/08 and I'll be back in contact for my pied male in 09. Thanks


If he promised you PIEDS for 7 Normals (if they are a failed project, they are normals)..he must have been desparate for those animals. Personally, like you, I do think that's a bit much, and I wouldn't have done it.

But if he let his tongue get the better of his brains..does that mean that you should take advantage?:shrug01:
 
YOU KNOW SOMETHING YOU ARE RIGHT CHERYL AND I WAS WRONG 35.00 ON THE WAY AND IN 09 WHEN (OR IF I PRODUCE AY PIEDS I WILL SEND AS AGREED IF ) YOU SEE I HAD NOT FORGOTTEN YOU I AM NOT THIS WAY I HAVE BEEN OFF MY FEET FOR 2 MONTHS NOW BUT THIS WAS A LITTLE MUCH SINCE I DO NOT HAVE A BUSSNESS I JUST LOVE THE HOBBIE OF BREEDING I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF OF HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS ORDERING SNAKES AND NEVER HAVE I TRIED TO HARM ANYONE BUT YOU KNOW YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE ANY THING YOU WANT THAT STILL DOES NOT CHANGE NOTHING BETWEEN US YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS HEADACH BUT I THINK THESE IS YOU AND HOW YOU DO THINGS I AM SO SORRY THIS HAPPEN BELIEVE ANY THING YOU WANT OF ME IT IS OK WRITE ANYTHING YOU WANT THIS IS OK TO
 
If he promised you PIEDS for 7 Normals (if they are a failed project, they are normals)..he must have been desparate for those animals. Personally, like you, I do think that's a bit much, and I wouldn't have done it.

But if he let his tongue get the better of his brains..does that mean that you should take advantage?:shrug01:



Sorry.. A pied.

Not meaning to imply that you are doing anything wrong. A promise is a promise..but if he's having a problem with 35.00..why give yourself this stress? If he can't come up with 35.00...it's doubtful that he may have Pieds, or hets laying around.

So taking advantage of his stupidity.
 
Okay~ Here goes:
The ad the LIAR responded to in the first place (some of you probably read this when I posted it on Fauna but he replied from Kingsnake and this is a cut and paste of the email KS sneds when you post a new ad~ I only cut and pasted the part pertaining to the ghost project~ but if you want to weed through the mess I’ll put the whole ad up)

The ad:
This first takes some explaining. It is a failed project I’m disgusted with~ selling them as normals. The story is~ I purchased a male 100% het ghost donated by Mark and Kim Bell at the 2003 NARBC auction. I bred him in 06’ to a normal female and held back 0.2 50% het ghost daughters. In 06’ I purchased from Evan Stahl a proven het Bell line hypo (Ghost) female. I bred her in 07’ to the 100% het Ghost male described above. Seven healthy NOT GHOST babies were produced from the pairing. I held back 0.4 66% het ghost daughters from this pairing. In 08’ I again bred the 100% het male from the Bells to the 100% het Bell line female from Stahl. Six healthy NOT GHOST babies were produced in 08’. I wholesaled out the entire 08’ clutch as normals. I am disgusted with the project. I trust both the Bells and Evan Stahl as honest business people so the best I can figure is either I have the worst luck EVER ~ OR ~ a mistake was made somewhere and someone sent me the wrong ani!
mal (since I take photo ID of patterns on the snakes as soon as I get them there is little or any chance I mixed them up~ I’ve checked their IDs to ensure they ARE the snakes I received labeled as het ghosts). IF someone made a mistake IDing one of the hets before I received and photo IDed them~ then the daughters are either 66% hets or 50% hets or NORMALS. I’m disgusted with the project and just so DONE trying to figure it out! I’ve sent the female off with a friend who has a het bell line ghost male for her to try with and I just want the male and ALL 6 of his daughters GONE!! I’m DONE with the ghost project. These are to be sold as NORMALS and if you want to attempt to prove they are not just NORMALS more power to you~ I HOPE someone can do it~ but I’ve got other projects I actually care about and need the rack space!!!! So………..

1.0 ~ 03’ NORMAL BP (Purchased from Kim Bell at NARBC auction as 100% het ghost~ failed to prove to 100% het ghost female two years in a row now) Oct08’ weight: 1400 grams
0.2 ~ 06’ NORMAL BP (daughters of male above that has failed to prove to normal female~ So IF he is in fact a het they are 50% possible hets) Oct08’ weights: 1000grams and 700 grams
0.4 ~ 07’ NORMAL BPs (daughters of male above and a “100% het bell line ghost female”~ the pairing of “Hets” failed to produce ghosts two years in a row with a total of 13 babies ~ So~ IF the male OR the female is a het then they are 50% possible hets~ if BOTH male and female are hets then they are 66% possible hets) Oct08’ weights: 650 to 700 grams each

Asking $400 (plus shipping) for all 7 snakes.

I got an email from Rick on

On Sun, 10/12/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:01 PM
*************
NOTE: This message was sent to you via the Kingsnake.com Classifieds. If you
feel this message is fraudulent or abusive please forward it to
[email protected].
NOTE: DO NOT flag this message as SPAM/JUNK as your ability to receive
legitimate messages from Kingsnake.com Classifieds may be compromised
*************

cheryl i would love to try if you do not mind i have a 100% het orange ghost i
purchased from boas and balls (lynn a friend of ours ) and a few others well i
have about 60 hets, norms and morths i live 40 miles south of atlanta you may
call me at 770-843-1046 rick from 1200pm until 1200 midnight rick


I called him and we talked~ we discussed all kinds of things~ his being a foster parent~ how many big names in the snake biz he is buddy’s with~ what projects he is working on and he promised me the pied repeatedly. We discussed how to ship~ I sent him my address~ he sent me his……….we decided to ship rather than pick up or drop off~I packed the snakes up and dropped them off and sent him this:

Original Message ----
From: Cheryl Marchek <[email protected]>
To: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!

Rick,
The tracking # is:
799393118715

Please let me know when they arrive

I’m a bit nervous about sending them to someone I’ve never heard of before with no payment of any kind~ but I’m still doing it. Not sure why. Please keep me updated as to their progress. Yesterday on the phone you promised me a pied male this coming season for them~ that is much more valuable than they are……and very probably that promise means that I am an idiot for sending them off with no payment and not knowing you……But for some reason I’m choosing to trust you. So even if you do not send the promised pied~ please keep me updated and send something of comparable value or half the cash you make from them when you breed them. Thanks
Cheryl Marchek
www.thereddragonsden.com
[email protected]
951-258-7026


He must not have realized I had already dropped off the snakes because he sent back:

On Tue, 10/14/08, rick harrel <[email protected]> wrote:
From: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 7:00 AM
NO I MADE A PROMISE I INTEND TO KEEP THANK YOU AND YOU KNOW MY NUM. AND ADDRESS CALL OR IF YOU ARE EVER DOWN PLEASE STOP BY ANYTIME

He received the snakes~ we discussed their history some more~ I even talked to his wife.

Then on Nov 1st I sent
From: Cheryl Marchek <[email protected]>
To: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:40:21 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
Rick,
It's been a couple weeks and I've not recieved a check for the $35 shipping cost on the snakes yet. Did you send it?
Cheryl Marchek
www.thereddragonsden


He responded:

Sat, 11/1/08, rick harrel <[email protected]> wrote:
From: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 8:21 PM
yes i sent it i am sorry if you have not recieved i will check the pob this week when i can get out so sorry i had my ankle operated on so can not walk yet

Then on 11/17 I sent
From: Cheryl Marchek <[email protected]>
To: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:17:29 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
Still waiting. Been over a month~ just waiting for the shipping I paid for................
Cheryl Marchek
www.thereddragonsden.


He responded:
On Mon, 11/17/08, rick harrel <[email protected]> wrote:
From: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 7:58 PM
can you still take mastercard ? i will go ahead and


I told him:
Rickk,
I can do paypal to my email address~ or a check sent here~ but I've never been able to take credit cards directly.
Thanks
Cheryl Marchek
www.thereddragonsden.com
[email protected]
951-258-7026



I did not hear another word until I posted this morning when I sent him:
From: Cheryl Marchek <[email protected]>
To: rick harrel <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:53:40 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: odds and ends~ need to make rack space!
Thought you might like to see this~ hope your name and reputation were worth it

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122291
Cheryl Marchek


Since then I’ve gotten 4 emails from him~ amazing how responsive he is now

First:
i am sorry you have not recieved check but now thank you because slander is against the law and another you put my personal info . online for the world to see now i have it in writting from your email to me and on line posted ok now my lawyer has it and you will be hearing from him and i am going to press charges and i am placing suite on the dragons den was it worth it hope so because you have now broken a lot of laws so it would have been better to call me i have never riped any one off i told you i was sorry that i had an operation a would send it a far as any snakes i did not need them and for your info. i promised to you i would breed them out but i decided not anouther i wish you would make the mistake and show up at my home you would not be a happy person when you left now you chose you fight now you have one ....... you sent me snakes that are het for ghost and we believe they are norms so i believe i have been taking care of snakes and feeding them for the dragons den under false info. so lets go for it , you have 24 hours to remove or i will sign warrents on you for this next time check the laws.

Second:
OK YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THIS WE CAN

Third:
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REMOVE YOUR POST I AM SORRY YOUNEED 35.00 THAT BAD I DO NOT KEEP ANY SNAKES AT MY HOME SO SHOW UP ALL YOU LIKE ANOTHER ARE YOU NEEDING THE SNAKES TO SELL THAT IS OK TO SO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FROM HERE

Fourth:
I TELL YOU WHAT CHERYL I AM SENDING THE 35.00 MONEYORDER TO YOU MNODAY REG. MAIL AS SOMEONE SUGGESTED SO NOW ARE YOU HAPPY I WILL DO IT AS SOON AS I LEAVE THE DOCTORS OFFICE


I have received no phone call from him nor would I take one. Obviously I am too easily duped on the phone.
 
THERE WE GO I DID NOT SAY I WAS MAKING A MORTH FROM HET /NORMS SO MAYBE YOU KNOW WHAT ? NEVER MIND................
 
Sorry.. A pied.

Not meaning to imply that you are doing anything wrong. A promise is a promise..but if he's having a problem with 35.00..why give yourself this stress? If he can't come up with 35.00...it's doubtful that he may have Pieds, or hets laying around.

So taking advantage of his stupidity.

Seriously?
You don't actually think he's sending me anything do you? I'm not getting that $35 check OR a ghost OR a pied OR anything else. I was yanking his chain to see how much more he would froth at the mouth when I told him I'd be back for my 09' pied male. I never expected to get one~ and I most certainly do not expect to one from him in 09! My word~ he just tried to say he called me and I was fine with all this WHILE I WAS ONLINE WATCHING HIM POST! LOL. The truth and him are not good friends and I know that. Just letting everyone else know in case he thinks he's gonna breed my snakes and make any money off them!
 
EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THESE EMAILS EVERYTHINGS SHE SAID I ONLY ASKING ABOUT SNAKES
 
NO CHERYL IT IS WRONG FOR THIS TO HAPPEN TO PEOPLE BUT I TELL YOU WHAT LETS SEE HOW BIG AND TRUTHFUL YOU REALLY ARE WHEN YOU GET YOUR MONEY AND IN 09 IF MINE HAVE PIEDS AND I SEND YOU ONE WILL YOU FEEL GREAT ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE , MAYBE SO , IT IS KIND OF FUNNY I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU ANY OF THE BABYS I HATCHED FOR BEING THE PERSON I THOUGHT YOU WERE BUT I SEE WITH SOME IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY WELL YOU PROBLY WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS AND REALLY DO NOT CARE BUT NO I AM NOT GOING TO BREED THESE SNAKES I GOT FORM YOU AT ALL THEY MAKE GREAT PETS ....... I BEEN WATCHING TO
 
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