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Good Guy chris cassaci from niagara falls

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Hi everyone My name is mark batch from buffalo ny I am not new to the ball scene here and would like to put my 2 cents in for the thing going on here with chris at rarepythons. First off I have been doing volunteer work with chris at his facility and will be the first to tell you that he does care about his animals and does want to do business the right way , granted he has not been in the business for long he is not fully aware of all the morphs out there and him misrepresenting them as he has was not intentional to make a quick buck he just didnt know what was what. I have a couple of snakes from him that are doing great and thriving. And he has gone out of his way to help me so I just want to give some kind of feed back here.
 
Mark

A comment like this really should have been posted in the existing thread.

My main question is why you are "volunteering" at a retail establishment? According to Chris he has a thriving Ball Python business in addition to a plethora of other successful businesses. I believe he referred to himself as a "wealthy" man.

It seems odd that he would be looking for folks to volunteer their time
 
snakemansnakes said:
Hi everyone My name is mark batch from buffalo ny I am not new to the ball scene here and would like to put my 2 cents in for the thing going on here with chris at rarepythons. First off I have been doing volunteer work with chris at his facility and will be the first to tell you that he does care about his animals and does want to do business the right way , granted he has not been in the business for long he is not fully aware of all the morphs out there and him misrepresenting them as he has was not intentional to make a quick buck he just didnt know what was what. I have a couple of snakes from him that are doing great and thriving. And he has gone out of his way to help me so I just want to give some kind of feed back here.
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After seeing your animals at a white plains show a little while ago. I could careless what YOU have to say on Chris and his Facility...:eek:
 
jasballs said:
After seeing your animals at a white plains show a little while ago. I could careless what YOU have to say on Chris and his Facility...:eek:
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Are you sure we cant cut him some slack given he is only 21 years old and probably not all that experienced as you or other seasoned vets might be? Experience comes from living and learning. Obviously he isn't learning from the right guy with Chris Cassaci, but unless you'd be willing to take him under your wing to show him the right way, I hardly think its appropriate for you to bash the the young fella.

Make sense? You gotta be fair, John.
 
Have we been sampling the other Chris Cassaci product? Cause you gotta be smokin something if you really believe that its all just an honest mistake.

You don't get schooled on the BOI about the importance of properly representing your animals one year and then turn around and call wild caught balls proven morphs the next. You can only claim so much ignorance and still claim to be a genetics engineer :rofl: You'd have to be seriously brain damaged and go out of your way to be the worst business person in the industry to continue to screw up like he has.

And yes -- according to his own post he is just trying to make a quick buck. :yesnod:
 
critical bill said:
Are you sure we cant cut him some slack given he is only 21 years old and probably not all that experienced as you or other seasoned vets might be? Experience comes from living and learning. Obviously he isn't learning from the right guy with Chris Cassaci, but unless you'd be willing to take him under your wing to show him the right way, I hardly think its appropriate for you to bash the the young fella.

Make sense? You gotta be fair, John.
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You are 100% correct Bill! I HAVE THE WRONG GUY HERE!!
Sorry Mr. Batch. I was mistaken on the name.. Please forgive me.
 
Quote from Chuck:
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Well John, dangit, Chuck's right again! LOL!

Randal
 
critical bill said:
Are you sure we cant cut him some slack given he is only 21 years old and probably not all that experienced as you or other seasoned vets might be? Experience comes from living and learning. Obviously he isn't learning from the right guy with Chris Cassaci, but unless you'd be willing to take him under your wing to show him the right way, I hardly think its appropriate for you to bash the the young fella.

Make sense? You gotta be fair, John.
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Those are wise words from a seasoned pro, thanks Chuck.
 
Mark,

I'm guessing you have honestly good intentions here....but my advice to you would be to do some research on the person whom you are describing here, talk to some folks who actually DO know Ball Pythons, and see if you still feel the same way. I'm guessing this guy has a way of pulling the wool over the eyes of a well meaning newcomer to the hobby, as he is trying to pass himself off as someone he isn't.
 
I talked to Chris at the last Buffalo show, and he said outright that he is only dealing with gravid imports for the money. He pays a certain amount per gravid girl, takes the eggs when they lay them, and sell the females right after they lay the eggs to make the money back on the initial investment. Once the babies hatch, he sells the babies for profit. It's a joke of a business plan... and a STRONG indication that he couldn't care less about the animals.

I have not seen the actual facility because it was "under renovation" when i showed up there once... likely story... but based on the animals that were at the show... (a bunch of normal juveniles and babies, and adult "proven breeders") I would be willing to make an assumption that he really isn't doing all that much breeding there... If he was breeding as much as he claims to be, I would expect to see more morphs at a table than 1 spider and 1 or 2 pastels...
I could be wrong though... (oh there were a lot of snakes with tags saying "fires", "Ghosts", "sables", "granites", and a few other "morphs"... but in reality, there were a lot of normals with outrageous prices...)


"GOOD GUY" is a far cry from what is going on here...
 
Chris-
You previously commented on my open mindedness. Thanks. Having said that, you really need to either find a new hobby or seriously study your BP morphs. You have flushed your credibility down the toilet with your high prices and "oops, I didn't know" claims of ignorance.

Mark-
There's nothing wrong with volunteering, however, it would be wise to do so with someone who has lots of experience and a good reputation. It looks like Chris will have your rep shot to Hell right along with his if you continue this association. Good luck.
 
lanceheads said:
Well John, dangit, Chuck's right again! LOL!

Randal
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Honestly its not about my being right or wrong but rather what is right from wrong. I wasn't trying to find John in the wrong so that I could be right, it just turned out that way. If John were not wrong about who he was talking about I'd still like to think I was right in what I said. Cassaci got his claws into a kid at a very impressionable age. If the kid is beat down its really only going to make him think that Chris is right, and that were just out here bashing people and going heavy on them for a good time. I think its best we leave the kid with the true impression that the reason we all gather here is to try to fix whats wrong and make things right.
 
ReptileJay said:
I have not seen the actual facility because it was "under renovation" when i showed up there once... likely story...
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Isn't that convenient!! I'm glad Harald didn't waste his time to drive there to get an excuse like that.
 
Bill & Amy said:
Isn't that convenient!! I'm glad Harald didn't waste his time to drive there to get an excuse like that.
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With all due respect, he never mentioned if he had an appointment to tour the facility. It could be a legitimate excuse as to why he was turned away. As for Harald or anyone else interested in going, I do believe Chris extended an open invitation to anyone to tour his business by appointment.
 
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