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Kingsnake is FISHY

If you guys want to talk about genetics on this go to the thread that is posted earlier in this thread titled "Jelly". If you wan to discuss whether or not Bluerosy is being honest with his advertising etc, then you need to start a new BOI thread with his name in the title. This thread is titled for kingsnake.
 
Yeah, I would like to recommend that everyone stay ON TOPIC in this thread, but quite honestly, I'm just not sure exactly WHAT the topic is here........ :confused:
 
Your produced a Kinked White-sided from the SAME clutch as the "Pewter" not Jelly x 2x het Axanthic and WS.

OK what your point?... I bred Hypomelanistic (Brooksi) to Blaze (Goini) and Got a Kinked Blaze phase... my hypo IS NOT het Blaze phaze and has NO (goini in it in the 1st place!) ... (Believe it or not this can be explained as well)

The 1st AND 2nd year you bred Peanut butter to Amelanistic you produce ONE LONE NORMAL ... (I have a very good memory so tread carefully)...

Sometimes the "unexplained" as far as our basic understandings can happen... I said it before, genetic probabilities are sometimes never 100%. I can site down here an type an entire genetics lesson for you but the fact of the matter is YOU are the breeder, producer & seller it is YOUR responsibility to KNOW what is going on with YOUR animals before you market them as what they are NOT. Or what you "Speculate" they are.

You HAVE THE FLOOR... I gave you the opportunity to explain to everyone how you believe your "speculations" can be possible... Rather than answer ANY of the IMPORTANT questions you've dance around this post much like you do on KS.com... the difference is HERE people will see it... HERE you can't catch a hissy fit, say some "mean" things and the post disappears.... there is a "Jelly" post... you've read it... the floor is still open!


BTW: what Brandon was saying about you saying the PB's were Co-Dom... it's Achieved @ KS.com... so if you'd like me to I can dig it up for you :D
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I concluded this with the simple "Test"

You sold people Quad hets. (Peanut Butter, Axanthic, Amelanistic T- & Hypomelanistic) as well as several Multiple hets which originated from Jelly x Multiple females.

You Speculate they will prove out as you stated... You've read my explanations... so you know what science says... Let's wait it out... `09... 2010... 2011... we will all know the TRUTH.

Zenny Felicien




bluerosy said:
What you are hoping Brandon is people will buy into your scheme.

Lets take this statement of yours for instance and then let any interested parties decide for themselves:




Yesss, I sold het Peanut Butters for years before I discovered they were allelic with the T negative. So what is wrong with that?

This is what I meant by Zenny and you posting stuff when people don't know the history between us and your motives.

Another is the 'Pewter morph' Zenny mention on the other thread being a Jelly. Maybe he forgot I posted several times that there was also a Whitesided neonate that pooped out of that same clutch between a Jelly x Het WS axanthic. How is that possible when a Jelly has no history or traces of Whiteside????????????So yes David Blaine stuff does happen in reptile gentics. Same thing goes for the first clutch of all Jellies. Why would I make something like that up about the Jellies when it would end up being a dead-end morph and hurt me? Let me tell you I didn't make anything up folks. It is a LOT better they proved out to be multi hets.

I posted my info a couple times on KS ABOUT THE EXACT BEEEDING OF EVERY WHICH ANIMAL. But if i really wanted to, I could have a website (which is in the works for 2009) which explains everything in detail. I am glad this thread came so i know to get in deeper detail with the parent stock and the breedings behind them on my website.

To the mods. I don't know but I may have violated by posting here again but I did not start this thread about me and I don't have the time to chase these two individuals around from website to website and forum to forum. Like I said before anybody call contact me by phone (770)880-5072 or by email [email protected]. Or check for my website early spring 2009.

With just getting married and kids and it being a couple days before Christmas I don't have the time. The explanations run deep and these two individuals have twisted eveything around so much as far as what i bred and to what it would be hard for me to post several pages of info.

To the original poster who started all this . You can email me for my phone number and I would be glad to chat with you. You will know a whole lot more, IF YOU REALLY ARE INTERESTED, about these morphs. Go to the source if you want info on Brooksi genetics.

Hope you all realize the real reason for the season as well-Merry 'CHRISTmas!
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Last friendly warning.
The genetics discussion is ongoing at the following location: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123669

This thread is titled Kingsnake (as in KS dot com), NOT Rainer Weishaupl.
If you want to make this about Rainer, start a thread with his name on it.

This started out about Kingsnake enforcing their rules...well, I'm about to start enforcing ours. The infractions begin here.
 
Rainer, the problem is, your stories have changed so many times. How does my statement of YOUR actions support your "my scheme" theory? I (that means me), do not have a scheme as you put it. Yes, you first sold animals as hets and later sold them as co-doms, and now hets again. That is the problem....not my scheme.....it's your scheme. Can you see it now?

Just because two traits share the same allele, it does not make them co-dom, yet you continue to mislead with HYPE.

As I said before, I'm not the first, and won't be the last to point out your inconsistencies. Every time you are in the spotlight for misleading info, you jump into attack mode.

Again, I have NO VESTED INTEREST in your projects.

Merry Christmas
Brandon Osborne
 
Apparently, people are having difficulty grasping this concept.
infraction: Maliciously destructive off topic posting points: 3 expires: 365 Day(s)

Anybody else? It's Christmas, and I'm in a giving mood.
 
I need a longer screen, I guess.
Infraction: Maliciously destructive off topic posting
Points: 3
Expires: 365 Day(s)
 
Brandon Osborne said:
Rainer, the problem is, your stories have changed so many times. How does my statement of YOUR actions support your "my scheme" theory? I (that means me), do not have a scheme as you put it. Yes, you first sold animals as hets and later sold them as co-doms, and now hets again. That is the problem....not my scheme.....it's your scheme. Can you see it now?

Just because two traits share the same allele, it does not make them co-dom, yet you continue to mislead with HYPE.

As I said before, I'm not the first, and won't be the last to point out your inconsistencies. Every time you are in the spotlight for misleading info, you jump into attack mode.

Again, I have NO VESTED INTEREST in your projects.

Merry Christmas
Brandon Osborne
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My 'stories" never changed. You are just twisting the truth. There are no inconsistencies.

Nice work trying to smear my name.
 
I havent really read this thread at all cause it doesnt have anything to do with ball pythons. But damn KS forums piss me off sometimes.
Today in the ball python section of KS they deleted a couple threads that someone posted of there beautiful breeders and some of there off spring from there balls.
There was nothing but people saying how nice looking they were and for some reason KS mods decide to delete both threads. So I posted asking why and of course they deleted that one.
Then I posted asking who the person was who posted the original threads so I could ask them if they have a website so I could see if they had any of the babies for sale and of course that thread was deleted also.
For some reason it just highly pissed me off for them to do that with no response on why they did it.
 
KS is THE BOMB!! They are very easy to get a long with IF you just talk to them like a person.. They worked a deal with me and I'm very Happy with their terms.. Just Sayin!:D
 
I have never really had a problem with them before. I just dont know why they would just go and delete someones thread for no reason. there was nothing at all that was negative in the post. There were no advertisements or anything that I could see multiple threads being deleted for. And then they delete my question asking why the original threads were deleted. I dont see why they couldnt just PM me with an answer instead of deleting everything.
 
They are very easy to get a long with IF you just talk to them like a person..

I guess everyone has an opinion, just like everyone has an ...
 
KS is THE BOMB!!

This would surely be an opinion. And after reading your post, I am guessing you have a different one also. Would you have happened to saved a copy of your posting? It would be nice to see.
 
I dont see how me being pissed they deleted a post as an opinion. Its a feeling not an opinion.

And no I didnt save the post cause there was nothing negative in it that I would feel need saving. It was just another member posting pics of some of his baby ball pythons and some of his breeders and then other members commenting on how nice they were. Then both threads vanished. And when I posted why they were erased that post was erased also.
So I later in the day asked who the member was who posted the pics of all the nice snakes earlier in the day so I could contact them about some of the babies. And then that thread was erased. And it kind of ticked me off cause it was a simple question and for some reason KS felt the need to delete it.
 
I dont see how me being pissed they deleted a post as an opinion.

The opinion comment was not directed to your post. I am the one who started this thread for the same reason as you mentioned in your posting. Things disappearing without obvious reasons. I have learned you can not ask questions about vanishing threads on KS. It is in their rules. But you can come here and ask away. You say you didn't break any of their rules in your posting, but it vanished anyway. Thats partly why this thread is here. I HAVE learned that if I post something there, or read something that may cause some stirring, you better copy and save it or it WILL disappear. I have a few friends that learned this a long time ago, and have some pretty extensive files saved from KS. It gets interesting.
 
lol I miss understood you. Sorry for that. lol i thought you were refering to my post.
Yeah I have no clue as to why any of the post were deleted. I find it kind of odd at times. Only thing I can think of is maybe the mod didnt like the OP of the original threads that were deleted. oh well.
 
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