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Bad Guy Steve Markevich/ Serpent's Den

If rattlesnakes are poisonous, why can they be eaten?

Not all rattlesnakes are venomous either though. There are venomoids out there that are still rattlesnakes. In my experience, those who eat rattlesnakes tend to remove the venom as well, when they cut the head off. Those animals with their heads cut off are no more poisonous than a venomoid is venomous.
I have read that acorns are mildly toxic, but they were a staple food for the Yokut indians in my area. Cooking made them not toxic. Maybe the same is true with rattlesnakes?
If you're eating raw rattlesnake head though, I really don't even have a guess why they aren't poisonous!
 
If rattlesnakes are poisonous, why can they be eaten?
Good one! :yesnod:

By using that analogy does it not seem that a rattlesnake's venom is harmless because you can eat a rattlesnake? What's dangerous about a rattlesnake, it's venom/poison?

I wasn't gonna mention it again because I didn't want to take the thread further off course but I can understand other people having a hard time fighting to urge to refute my statement. I'd probably be climbin' the walls myself. I had PMed TripleMoonsExotics to try to clarify.

I have used the term "venomous" for nearly all of my many years in the hobby. Both as a venomous keeper and non-venomous keeper. We all know that the general public uses "poisonous." When it comes to trying to distinguish between the two terms you begin to split hairs. Is life not complicated enough? Basically, I feel that the term used is in the eye of the beholder. I can be thinking that it is venom but someone may be thinking along a different line and call it poisonous. Does that person usually not mean the same thing?

OK, you split hairs and say it's "venomous." But then, if you will split the hair even finer you'll see that the terms actually come back to the same meaning. Why stop at the typical method of delivery? Why not look at the venom, or poison, itself, and what it does? Does venom not "poison" the bloodstream of a person that has been envenomated? We can go on & on, but what's the point?

How many of us are scientists or doctors? Why should we insist that everyone speak in those types of terms?

But don't take my word for it, please, by all means, look up "venomous" & "poisonous" in any typical dictionary. Here are two links you can start with:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/venomous

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/venomous

No offense to anyone but I've never used Wikipedia for anything that I want to be sure of. I'm none too fond of their system, checks & balances.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program..........

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Ok, since we're already off topic...

Sometimes it can be hard to differentiate between scientific definition (no average dictionary is true scientific definition; to acquire true scientific definition you would have to use a scientific source and I was never able to find a reliable one online) and general usage terminology.

Arguments can be made on both sides of the coin, but the fact of the matter is, unless we have an actual scientific definition of venom, poison and toxin...We're all just making assumptions. However, it can be said that because we are speaking of reptile terminology, venomous is the correct usage for an animal that injects a toxin and poisonous is the correct usage for an animal that a toxin is ingested or absorbed.

Take the term albino for example...Scientifically, albino means "an animal or plant with a deficiency in pigmentation." So, by true scientific definition, that would apply to more then what it is commonly used for in the reptile industry (Anerythristic for example is technically an albino as it is suffering from a red pigment deficiency as Amelanistic is an albino because it is suffering from a black pigment deficiency).



ON TOPIC: Didn't make it to the magistrate office today. The truck inspection took me 2 hours today that I wasn't expecting and the magistrate has stupid hours. :ack2: Will stop in tomorrow before work.
 
Pennsylvania Commercial Rental Law

  1. NOTICE TO QUIT hand delivered to tenant or taped to main entrance; must be witnessed by someone that will verify in court.*
  2. EVICTION COURT FILING - 10 days after NOTICE TO QUIT
  3. EVICTION HEARING - 7-15 days after EVICTION COURT FILING
  4. EVICTION JUDGMENT - up to 3 days after EVICTION HEARING (if not same day)
  5. ORDER OF POSSESSION - 15 days after EVICTION JUDGMENT
  6. VACATE ORDER - 10 days after ORDER OF POSSESSION - this notice is issued by the court via mail and hand delivery by an officer of the courts.
  7. On the 11th day after the ORDER OF POSSESSION, forcible eviction / lockout by an officer of the law is authorized.

So...That puts it at 32 - 53 days depending on wording in the lease and how quickly the court system works.

* A landlord can put in their lease (if it is stated in a very specific legal way) that a tenant waves their rights to a NOTICE TO QUIT.



As for the question on if one was in jail while the court hearing took place...Two options...Ignore it and let the landlord automatically win the EVICTION HEARING, or pay to be transported to the hearing to defend yourself.



On legalities regarding the animals, I was told that it was "too specific" of a legal question for them to answer and I should ask an attorney.



If you're in PA and curious of rental law (Residential & Commercial), the magistrate people recommended a book called Pennsylvania Landlord-Tenant Law & Practice ($139 at its current edition - it gets updated whenever the laws change)...I'm going to see if one of our local libraries has it since I don't think it'd be a bad idea to know where I can find one in the event something happens with my own rental property. :ack2:
 
Very similar in most states,

above all, just make sure your up to date with your monthly rental agreements and there should be no reason for any problems. There are 2 exceptions that you may want to consider. The first being an odor that may cause a problem with any next door tenant, and secondly, animals getting loose that can frighten anyone in the vicinity. Especially, harmful snakes !
 
Maybe they should try a PM on Fauna classifieds.


Dydra-Hatton gave Nanovic evidence the county has unsuccessfully tried to reach Markevich by certified and registered mail, and through legal advertisements in a newspaper and the Legal Journal magazine. Foley's attorney, Stephen Vlossak of Palmerton, said authorities think Markevich ''has fled the area.''
 

Authorities are searching for Markevich and have filed warrants charging him with reckless endangerment, maintaining a public nuisance, 17 counts of animal cruelty and 160 counts of violating the borough exotic pet ordinance.

I guess the "authorities" don't read BP.net as he posted a classified ad over there less than a week ago....:rolleyes:
 

Reptile geeks is another place they could "add" him. I went there about a week ago and saw I had 18 friend requests from people I didn't know. Of course, I added them all! Got a quick reply from Steve (he was the only one I recognized) saying thanks for the add. If I remember correctly there was even a Happy Holidays themed background. He also has ads up there. Perhaps the media has it wrong. It doesn't seem like Steve is hiding from anything in the community.
 
Reptile geeks is another place they could "add" him. I went there about a week ago and saw I had 18 friend requests from people I didn't know. Of course, I added them all! Got a quick reply from Steve (he was the only one I recognized) saying thanks for the add. If I remember correctly there was even a Happy Holidays themed background. He also has ads up there. Perhaps the media has it wrong. It doesn't seem like Steve is hiding from anything in the community.

The media is only reading into the lies that were presented to them. Keep in mind I was given a notice of eviction in April. I was also in custody for non payment of child support for my adult children in Carbon County from April 15th .
Anyone that knows me personally can vouch for the way my animals are cared for and I'm certain many have laid eggs and others gave birth after hey illegally removed them from my store in April. It's funny as soon as I mentioned to my landlord to give me my belongings back or face a lawsuit that all his sprung up. I was advised by an ex- PA State Trooper and an attorney to wait till I retain a confident attorney before turning myself in but money is an issue for me a the moment but believe me heads are gonna roll when I have my day!
 
As far as my girlfriend goes. The police me her a the Hamburg Show this pas July and they have also come to her house un-announced and searched her premises but they ac as she is just some unknown Becky who is on the run with me.
Also as far as wooden cages their were "none" all of my animals were kept in Neodesha Plastics, Sterlite/Rubbermaid containers and rack systems.
 
The media is only reading into the lies that were presented to them. Keep in mind I was given a notice of eviction in April. I was also in custody for non payment of child support for my adult children in Carbon County from April 15th .
Anyone that knows me personally can vouch for the way my animals are cared for and I'm certain many have laid eggs and others gave birth after hey illegally removed them from my store in April. It's funny as soon as I mentioned to my landlord to give me my belongings back or face a lawsuit that all his sprung up. I was advised by an ex- PA State Trooper and an attorney to wait till I retain a confident attorney before turning myself in but money is an issue for me a the moment but believe me heads are gonna roll when I have my day!

Makes sense to me. Thanks for the reply.
 
Correction

As far as my girlfriend goes. The police me her a the Hamburg Show this pas July and they have also come to her house un-announced and searched her premises but they ac as she is just some unknown Becky who is on the run with me.
Also as far as wooden cages their were "none" all of my animals were kept in Neodesha Plastics, Sterlite/Rubbermaid containers and rack systems.

It was in October that the police met Becky at the Hamburg Show and later searched her house.
 
I was advised by an ex- PA State Trooper and an attorney to wait till I retain a confident attorney before turning myself in but money is an issue for me a the moment but believe me heads are gonna roll when I have my day!

Steve, does this mean that you are knowingly avoiding the authorities at this time, yet are still posting ads and being online?
I have to say, my concern in this is that we have spoken about being a vendor at my show, and that could cause some real issues if your situation is not taken care of....I wish you no ill will, and hope your issues do get worked out the way they should (however that is), but my suggestion would be to take care of your legal issues before posting ads for sale or trying to decide to vend at shows.
 
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