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Serafim said:
Can someone please post something showing there was an actual deal. Emails reciepts etc. This just looks like a pissing match.
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It is a pissing match and I will have no part in it any longer.

I called Buddy friend at one point and most of this was done on the phone so I personally have no emails. I would be happy to post them if I did.
 
So he never answered about the male breeder supertiger???
So I guess he is done,SO much for that.
I told ya all!!!!!!
RIPPED-OFF
 
No Pissing match here!!!Just the fact I got ripped off!!!!
Harry that is a fact!!!And you know this....
 
outlawgolf said:
So he never answered about the male breeder supertiger???
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I dont want to leave any loose ends here for anyone to question my integrity so I will be happy to answer this for you.

The Super Tiger was given to Donald Kittell of Columbus Ohio. I gave him several snakes to help him start a breeding project to be named Monsters North. When Mr. Kittell was given the animal you congratulated him in a pm and were also told he would honor the baby because I instructed him to had this animal ever produced.

He is reading this and can confirm if he wishes so more lies.
 
I adition if anyone doubts the vailidty of this last statement I can and will if nessesary wade threw a few thosand PM's after the holiday and take a screen capture of this PM sent to me of this conversation.
 
Ok,But how is it his deal???he is not responsible for the deal,You are!!!
It was made with you!!!!!
I am not holding him for it,since you gave away the snake!!!
I thought you where Done????
If I make a deal its 100% on me and no one else!!!!
Check That!!!
 
I am watching this of course. Yes, I do have the male super tiger, as well as the male sunfire. I was indeed told that Mr. Nester is owed a baby out of the female supertiger which I am not in posession of. That female is in the care of a Monsters Moderator by the name of Stratking13. The supertiger male was given to me to help me with some of my breeding projects. The sunfire was sold to me for the price of a modded xbox. I have never referred to myself as monsters north, though at the time I was an affiliate of monsters. As far as other debts, I am in the process of trying to work them out with Mr. Wessels at the moment. Hopefully all ends well and I won't need to be back here.
 
Thanks Donnie K!!! But I am not holding you to it,the deal was made with Harry,not you...I think you should just breed them and sell them.I am holding him to what he agreed on.
I do wish you all the luck Donnie,I hope you have a very good season.
:D
 
outlawgolf said:
Ok,But how is it his deal???he is not responsible for the deal,You are!!!
It was made with you!!!!!
I am not holding him for it,since you gave away the snake!!!
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Ok then hold me accountable for it if you think he will not keep his word. See I am openly telling you Buddy I have no issue with giving you a snake for your little girl and if you dont think he will pay up like he said he would then I will take care of the debt personally.

I will have all kinds of really nice stuff this year and you can pick a pair from whatever I produce even if its Het Albino Sunfires worth 3k a pair opposed to your pair of 250 dollar snakes......

See Buddy its really hard to hurt the credibility of someone who will do anything it takes to clear his name. Even lose money on something I really dont feel I owe you and if owed not for several years but thats ok.

You call me a rip off and I say I will treat you like any other customer I would that is not happy. I will go above and beyond to make things right and all you would have had to to was come talk to me but snakes are not your intent on this thread but to ruin me and thats not gonna happen.

outlawgolf said:
I thought you where Done????
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I am now that you have been nothing left to complain about and you can email when babies hatch. 2 snakes is getting off cheap IMO not to EVER have to deal with you again.
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Well That would be fine if you Honor that.But I will wait and See!!!
And Donnie knows he is not responible for the deal.He already tried to honor it,and I told him it wasnt his deal to honor!!!
So I will sit back and see what happens....:shrug01:
 
Donnie_K said:
As far as other debts, I am in the process of trying to work them out with Mr. Wessels at the moment. Hopefully all ends well and I won't need to be back here.
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You were given snakes for free to start a breeding program and It was my intent to call it Monsters North becase we needed cage space here and you are aware of this. I can say the project never went anywhere and no snakes have been bred so as far as I am conserned its a bust.

As for your debt Donnie you sent me $300 in cash for a baby from an upcoming clutch and the clutch had complications the babies did not make it and you said keep the cash and take care of me this year and I areed to do with a pair for you having to wait for them and you were fine with this so either of you (both exmods I might add) have been ripped off for anything and you make it sound like you are worried about a debt when in the past I have given you more snakes then your debt is worth. :thumbsup:

Now please if I dont honor the deal please by all means come post me again on the BOI and we will do this all over again but I think I have been completely Honest and willing to make everyone happy with more then they are owed just to show I am a man of my word and find no other problem here.

You guys dont like me....I get it and you think I am an ass....I get it....but you know I am not going to rip you off.
 
I said nothing of the sort, I said I will simply wait and see, and hopefully not have to be back here. And if debts are paid as promised, I won't be. There is an issue however that I'm sure we can work out in private about the genetics of said animal, and there will be no further need for any BOI threads.
 
Donnie_K said:
I said nothing of the sort, I said I will simply wait and see, and hopefully not have to be back here. And if debts are paid as promised, I won't be. There is an issue however that I'm sure we can work out in private about the genetics of said animal, and there will be no further need for any BOI threads.
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I dont need to work out genetics with you in private but thats fine if you prefer to do it in e-mail or you can post what "issue" you have here and we can openly discuse this I have nothing to hide.
 
not the morph genetics, but other issues with the fathering male due to pictures that were recently brought to my attention. But I see no reason why we can't work something else out anyway. I'll E-mail you with the pics.
 
FWIW -

Harry and Donnie seem to be handling any issues they may have like grown-ups, and from what has been displayed here, I'd have no problem dealing with them in the future.

Buddy has received more patience than I think he has deserved here. He has been pompous, antagonistic, and confrontational despite Harry's apparent desire to live up to his word. This is a situation where a "wait and see" approach is the only one, but if I was in Harry's shoes I'd feel obligated to give him nothing.

My $.02
 
captnemo said:
FWIW -


Buddy has received more patience than I think he has deserved here. He has been pompous, antagonistic, and confrontational despite Harry's apparent desire to live up to his word. This is a situation where a "wait and see" approach is the only one, but if I was in Harry's shoes I'd feel obligated to give him nothing.

My $.02
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That is your opinion..
I Dont think I would ever get anything from Him,If I did I would just give it away anyways,Its the Point he made a deal and has not stood up to it!!
Thats it!!!Nothing else!!!!
I dont really care if he does make it or doesn't.
To Him its his life
To me its a Hobby and a good tax rightoff.....
So thats the bottom Line.:thumbsup:
 
outlawgolf said:
To me its a Hobby and a good tax rightoff.....
So thats the bottom Line.:thumbsup:
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No, The bottom line is your expecting babies from a female that is to small and a dead male that cant breed.. I'd say Shut the trap and take Harry's kind offer on the TWO!! snakes..
 
captnemo said:
FWIW -

Harry and Donnie seem to be handling any issues they may have like grown-ups, and from what has been displayed here, I'd have no problem dealing with them in the future.

Buddy has received more patience than I think he has deserved here. He has been pompous, antagonistic, and confrontational despite Harry's apparent desire to live up to his word. This is a situation where a "wait and see" approach is the only one, but if I was in Harry's shoes I'd feel obligated to give him nothing.

My $.02
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Thanks man but I do feel obligated to keep my integrity on this and do as I said in the begining I would do even though he is being salty.

He was a customer in my eyes and the customer is always right so I will make right the best I can. He can sell them or give them away or whatever he would like but I hope he shows enough class to post a good guy thread when I do. I wont hold my breath but I will sleep better knowing he can never point of finger at me again.....I simply what this individual out of my life and I am sure anyone reading this can understand why.
 
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