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Bad Guy ED CLARK what a piece of work!

John and Allen are only partners in a sense of "coming together to pursue a common goal". The goal being collecting a debt owed by Ed, Allen is being paid for his service of collecting what is owed to John. Nothing reptile related, unless I've missed something...
 
John and Allen are only partners in a sense of "coming together to pursue a common goal". The goal being collecting a debt owed by Ed, Allen is being paid for his service of collecting what is owed to John. Nothing reptile related, unless I've missed something...


Which is not in any way shape or form the way that Allen portrayed it in his first post.
 
I have never bought anything from Allen Belcher, zip, zero, nothing at all.

I posted this on the 3rd on big daddys thread, within 10 minutes he calls me asking why. hes pissed because of the post then starts making threats saying hes a bail bonds agent that him and his boys will come to see me.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75369&page=207

I have bought bp's from John Martino/RMJ Reptiles and I like John alot.

One day John told me he had alot of BP morphs coming back from Allen Belcher/ big daddy wholesale do I want any of them. I declined the offer.

That was the last day I seen John,
me knowing he was in partners with Allen Belcher and they were sending ball pythons back and forth to each other. I could not buy those bp's to resell with a clear conscious.

So there it is, Allen Belcher/big daddy wholesale and John Martino/RMJ Reptiles are not so silent partners now.

You sure he bought them John? He says he didn't, because he grew a conscious. You happen to have any emails to back it, or receipts?

I mean, I have no doubt Ed's a dirty scoundrel, and not above lying to save his worthless hide, and I've even told him so a time or two, but seeing some proof sure would go a long ways to convincing others.

Besides, we ask it of everyone else, so it's only fair you do the same. :yesnod:
 
what i said in the original post was that allen had to say that so the web master wouldnt pull the post, and eddie says he bought bps from me....
 
I had read the posts. It happened while I was typing. I'm still confused, but I'm obviously upsetting everyone, so I'm just going to follow along at a distance now I think. xD
 
I read your post just fine. I'm a fairly literate person, even have some comprehension skills.

Ed doesn't say that Allen told him, Ed says that YOU told him they were Allen's snakes, and he never got anymore from you. Things like this is why we like to see proof, because you say he got $7200 dollars worth of snakes.

So I ask again, if you would kindly post any proof you have. I mean, he's obviously blown you off, or you wouldn't be here, so why not offer any proof you may have?

Besides, any nail in Eds coffin is a good nail to the industry. :thumbsup:
 
well if you go back to original post of mine, i said eddie picked up 3 seperate times from me that year, he had said the last time he was there or something that i said they were from allen? but he must of misunderstood what i said? i was probably shipping to allen and the animals that he was looking at were tagged for allen belcher? this is the only think i can think of....and as far as reciepts, i dont have one to show you, its an on going tab that eddie had with me... he would pick up animals and leave me money then send me checks...
we had a man to man agreement... and he is in NJ, not to far to visit..i trusted him from previous years consistinatly paying his debt...and as far as allen goes, he did what i asked him to do... dont give him cheap shots.... not cool.....
john
 
well if you go back to original post of mine, i said eddie picked up 3 seperate times from me that year, he had said the last time he was there or something that i said they were from allen? but he must of misunderstood what i said? i was probably shipping to allen and the animals that he was looking at were tagged for allen belcher? this is the only think i can think of....and as far as reciepts, i dont have one to show you, its an on going tab that eddie had with me... he would pick up animals and leave me money then send me checks...
we had a man to man agreement... and he is in NJ, not to far to visit..i trusted him from previous years consistinatly paying his debt...and as far as allen goes, he did what i asked him to do... dont give him cheap shots.... not cool.....
john

I guess I'll have to settle for that since you have nothing but your word. Which I don't doubt considering it's Ed we're talking about.

But as far as Allen goes....He's earned his cheap shots all by himself, even without you asking for his help. As it is, he comes here saying 10K in snakes, and you said $7200. He's a proved liar, and just as big a piece as Ed is. But even as much as I dislike Ed, it's just plain wrong of Allen to come here and try to steal an extra $2800 from him.

Nice friends you have there bud.
 
With all due respect, Richard, you might want to check the original post....
Allen said:
Ed bought over $10,000.00 worth of snakes from us back almost two years ago now and has an outstanding balance of $7200.00
 
Where did I read 16k as the original balance?

You guys really need to post some receipts.. Papers.. Something. This is quite a tangle.
 
I don't know Allen and I don't know Ed but I do know John. I'm not a kid with 3 snakes and I'm not some big breeder. I have 40-50 snakes at any given time and every one except for my first 2 Ball Pythons came from John. How many of you people know John or have met him? How many have seen his place and his animals? Take him up on his offer and go take a look...there won't be any doubt in your mind what kind of person he is and the quality of his snakes.

Mike Williamson
 
Where did I read 16k as the original balance?

You guys really need to post some receipts.. Papers.. Something. This is quite a tangle.

With all due respect Adam, you need to slow down. You're making this thread more confusing. You need to slow down and not skim the posts and start trying to comprehend what you're reading.
 
Where did I read 16k as the original balance?

You guys really need to post some receipts.. Papers.. Something. This is quite a tangle.

The original balance was 16K and Allen paid up to a balance of $7200.

Please read and then post. Thats one of the beauties of a thread-based forum. You can go back and read to answer questions. Please do....
 
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