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primate haters

I haven't seen one snake keeper try to file their animals teeth down.
I haven't seen one dog keeper file their dog's teeth down.
Same goes for cat owners as well.

I have hard time buying into the argument that primate keeping can be compared to mainstream pet keeping just by the numbers. There are FARRRRR more dog & cat owners by volume in comparison to primate keepers. I believe the same goes for reptilekeepers compared to primate keepers.

If you look at the numbers, in the last couple of years primates have attacked how many times?

If she is already talking about having its teeth filed, she knows it is far more dangerous than a boa or ball python.

Letting it roam in her house or in her $3k caging is really different than putting it in more suitable habitat at a good zoo how? At the least would have a colony, more suitable habitat and they do work at making feeding more natural than the typical private owner.
 
crazylady1193 said:
please fool!
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After some reflection, I wondered why this thread was here in the first place. While Fauna is mentioned at other sites, as far as I know it is not known for primate info at all.

Why is the OP coming here, flinging what is almost a challenge to unspecified persons who have apparently conveyed their opinions on primates as pets, at a reptile board?
 
Hey, as long as the thread happened, it MIGHT deter someone else from picking up a monkey as a pet. IF they read the info, and don't just go "Hey I'd love to have a furry substitute child! It will love me and stay little and cute forever!"
 
me telling you about my iguana and boa was not because it makes me qualified to keep monkeys, i put my own personal experience there because i did not want to offend those of you that do own them. geesh people. if i belived everything i read down to the last letter i would not have had those as pets nor my sliders. have any of you ever had a primate? or been to someones house that has them? im guessing not. i dont think its fair to judge someone that you do not know personally. and as far as my s/n goes it was given to me when i was in the us millitary and has stayed with me so thank you for that thought as well. i understand some animals are not pet material, it is up to that person to decide what they want to raise as a pet or sit back and look at from afar.
 
ok i just went back threw and read all the post.. yes i do plan on getting more lemurs no not a colony of 20 but a small one of 5 to 7, and the post i put up for the capuchin is trying to help somone else find one, belive me or not i really dont care. i have never been nor will i ever be a azz to someone who wants want some concerdier a bad idea for a pet. i will gladly invite any of you to my home and will take you myself over to where i got my "baby" from and you can see for your self that he is not excepted with his parents. again NO he was not ripped from his mother. now i understand why people that do own primate keep there mouth shut, they dont want to hear crap about there choices. yes i have been to a zoo not all of there monkeys are on a island only one kind is the rest are in cages. and i have seen mean ass children throw things at that island like cups food they didnt want and i have seen both the ones in the cages and on the island scream out because they were scared. when i first started this thread yes it was after i posted on other places on this board i never said any of the emails were from anyone on here. i have tried very hard not to offend any of you. yes he will get his teeth filed and so will all of the others i get, yes it is for my saftey as well as thers. yes i concerder him my "baby" as i do with all of my animals yes he is loved and cared for by my entire family. he will ride on my dogs back threw my house so i take that as some type of happiness. you cant force a troop to take him and untill he is in a troop of his own wheather it be purchased by me or back in the one he came from i will do my very best to take care of him. have any of you ever heard of "helping hands" sissy the primate ?
 
Well, it's pretty obvious you have no intention of listening to anyone whose advice you disagree with, so I might as well try to salvage something of value out of this mess:

When the lemur dies or has to be put down due to erratic and aggressive behavior, can I have the body? I'll pay for dry ice and shipping, but if it gets above -20C, the tendons will begin to degrade and I won't be able to do the tests I want to, though the skeleton will still make a nice teaching aid.
 
lucille said:
After some reflection, I wondered why this thread was here in the first place. While Fauna is mentioned at other sites, as far as I know it is not known for primate info at all.

Why is the OP coming here, flinging what is almost a challenge to unspecified persons who have apparently conveyed their opinions on primates as pets, at a reptile board?
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I'm with Lucille on this one. I pulled up your previous posts and no one decided to openly bash you about owning a lemur. In fact, you state yourself that you have received "many, many e-mails" regarding this matter.

If users have been decent enough to send any "anti-primate-owning" communications to you privately, why would you choose to start a thread, if not to provoke those members?

If you don't like the e-mails you are receiving, delete them. Problem solved.
 
crazylady1193 said:
i dont think its fair to judge someone that you do not know personally.
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Look, lady. No one knew who you were here before you started all this. No one was discussing primates.

If you walk onto the range and put up a nice big target, don't be suprised if someone shoots at it.

And do NOT say "i don't think its (sic) fair to judge someone that you do not know personally" AFTER you set up the target and you invited the target practice.

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now i understand why people that do own primate keep there mouth shut
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If you understand, then why are you continuing to post?
 
If you choose not to listen, then you can be just like all the other misguided people who will eventually dump their "beloved baby" on some hapless sanctuary, which will then have to try to sort out the damaged animal.
I have seen monkeys as "pets" and I actually go to and support a sanctuary who has to take care of all the poor things that were dumped after they turn into MONKEYS, instead of babys.
You're blind if you seriously think that the breeder didn't take that baby from the mother. Of course a adult won't take it back! They removed it already! How do you think you'll ever intregate a group?

I feel horrible for that poor creature, destined for a life like that. I wish you loved primates as much as those of us that consider what THEY need first.
 
I do agree with some of the things a few of you have said here. I did start this thread, so yes I have to take what has been said. I like most people will ever own what everyone considers to be the perfect pet. Not everyone will always agree with what someone else has or says. This is not a perfect world by any means. I have continued to post about this because I either didn't agree or had something else to say about it just as any of you would, if you felt strongly about it. Not everyone has the same thought of what they want or conceder as a pet.i know that lemurs, primates of any kind are not everyone thing. I enjoy having primates around me not just to look at but to physically interact with. I have been raised around them most of my life. I wasn't in anyway trying to piss anyone off. The post had nothing to do with anyone on the board. When I saw a place to vent I took advantage of it. I do think that if any of you actually took the time to get to know me and what type of person I am you could better understand the choices I have made. I love animals of every species, I want to learn everything I can about them. I understand some of you do not agree with me but I do strongly believe hands on experience is better than anything you can read in a book. I do have more than enough time to give to my animals, and have never sold or breed them just because I was tired of them. Don't plan to. What's wrong with giving me a chance on this board before you decide you don't want me on here? IM not saying that any of you have said that but IM sure you have thought it. I can't say that I blame you I do think we got off on the wrong foot.just like all of you I have a deep love for animals, I don't always make the right choices on the ones I decide to raise but I do what I can for them and always put as much as humanly possible into them and there well being.
 
I'd like to know how the iguana got ripped apart by a pit bull.

If the Iguana was housed properly and securely, how would that happen?

Are you sure you know what you are doing?
 
I had a friend of mine (the one that owned the pit) animal sitting for me while I was in the hospital ( I have had a problem with blood clots for over 10 years) I was there a total of 10 days my iguana like most of my animals have free run of two rooms in my house, I stopped making him stay in a cage when he was 3, she had sit for me before and brought her pit
With her many times to my house. im not exactly sure what all happened as I was not there, but what I was told is she went into check on him and the others, barney (named by then 2 yr old) was on his basking ledge when he came down the pit got scared for some reason not sure why and snapped at him. barney freaked started whipping him with his tail and she could not get them apart fast enough. It was a freak accident like I said the pit had been in the "animal room" many times with out any problems. IM sure that letting them have free run is a bad idea to some but they seam to enjoy having two large rooms they can move around in freely.
 
No, it was not a freak accident. It was entirely your fault for a) letting an animal free-roam without you present, b) letting someone bring a huge predator into the same room/home as the free-roaming animal, and c) allowing situation b to happen without your direct supervision.

Never mind primates; you aren't responsible enough to own *any* animal beyond a goldfish.
 
omfg! A) i was in the hospital, i could not let them starve for 10 days! b)the huge predator as you called him had been in my home and the room more than once over several years without any problems. c) no i didnt have direct supervision i was in the hospital!
how can you say im not responsible enough to own anything behond a goldfish? the fact that i raised him over 9 years speaks for its self. i dont think it matters what i say you have already formed your opnion of me and thats fine.
whats next telling me that my home being broken into and my boa getting stolen along with other things was my fault to? or better yet my dog getting a tick on him from playing outside is my fault.
the only thing i am at fault for is wanting to talk to others whohave pets that they have welcomed into their family. that i will take blame for.
 
and just so that you know even though you might not care, trying to get over the fact that something like that happned to one of my babies was not an easy thing to deal with. and knowing that if i wasnt sick i would have been here and it might not have hapend didnt help either. nothing about that was easy to deal with no is it something i want to have someone else tell me that was my fault. dont you think i know i should have been the one taking care of them? what makes you think it didnt break not only my heart my childrens who loved him and to this day refuses to let me get another iguana because there afraid to get attached to it and something happen.
 
A) i was in the hospital, i could not let them starve for 10 days!
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Then call someone *responsible* to take care of them, not your moronic friend.

Or at least ask her to leave the dog at home. Is it joined to her at the hip or something?

b)the huge predator as you called him had been in my home and the room more than once over several years without any problems.
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And Seigfried & Roy didn't have any problem with their tigers until one day...

*ANY* combination of animals has the potential for serious conflict (even herbivores of different species), and when one of those animals is a predator which outweighs the other by more than 10 times, it's pretty much guaranteed that something bad will happen.

Are you seriously too stupid to have thought "Hrm, a big strong dog and a small, somewhat fragile lizard - if something goes wrong, the lizard is dead."? Or were you perfectly content to risk the life of your animal for no good reason?

how can you say im not responsible enough to own anything behond a goldfish?
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The fact that you're too stupid to consider the possible ramifications of inviting an 80-lb predator into the same room as an 8 lb lizard?

The fact you've evidently bought a social animal with absolutely no consideration for its psychological needs?

Or maybe the fact that you think "I want it" is sufficient justification for owning any damn fool thing that strikes your fancy? Is a pet rhinocerous next?

the fact that i raised him over 9 years speaks for its self.
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It's an iguana, not a Bornean earless monitor. Any idiot with google can raise one.

trying to get over the fact that something like that happned to one of my babies was not an easy thing to deal with. and knowing that if i wasnt sick i would have been here and it might not have hapend didnt help either. nothing about that was easy to deal with no is it something i want to have someone else tell me that was my fault. dont you think i know i should have been the one taking care of them? what makes you think it didnt break not only my heart my childrens who loved him and to this day refuses to let me get another iguana because there afraid to get attached to it and something happen.
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Good. You should suffer, since it was entirely your fault for not taking a moment to actually *think* about what you do.

Unfortunately, it's pretty evident you've not learned, nor are you willing to learn.
 
Mokele said:
Never mind primates; you aren't responsible enough to own *any* animal beyond a goldfish.
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Hey! Goldfish can live for twenty-thirty years or better with proper care, they have specific water quality and environmental needs...

There's absolutely no way this woman is responsible enough to own a goldfish.
 
oh well, what every you want to think of me is your business.
i do wish all of you the best with your pets and may they have a long happy life with you.
teresa
 
Then call someone *responsible* to take care of them, not your moronic friend.
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You are being so disrespectful and rude!

It's an iguana, not a Bornean earless monitor. Any idiot with google can raise one.
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Have you ever raised an iguana? In most cases, it's not as easy as you think. And yea, google can tell you WHAT to do, but most often NOT HOW to do it. And I personally take offense to this post because I raised one for 12 years, without google. So does this make me a slightly less stupid moron?

Good. You should suffer, since it was entirely your fault for not taking a moment to actually *think* about what you do.
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HOLY :censored:! You are such an @ss hole, Mokele! At this point I'm not even trying to defend her animals, I want to stop you. CrazyLady has been extremely respectful throughout all of these posts, while you have sit there calling names, beating her down, and just straight talkin :censored:. For god sakes, your 28! Act your age!

To the rest of you being disrespectful, stop. You can disagree with someone and still treat them respectfully. This is what she has been doing with you guys, at least return the favor. To the FEW of you that have been respectful, I'm gonna thank you because its just annoying to read 4 pages of attacks.

Again, I still think she is right in what she is doing. So many of you have said that the breeders tear them away too soon, and one can only insinuate out of that that the breeder would mistreat the animals. At least she is doing better than most breeders would.
 
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