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Inquiry I'm thinking of buying from "bigdaddywholesale"---Is he good or not

If I remember correctly Allen initially took a "PR hit" a few yrs. ago from a former employee who took pictures of dirty cages and posted them.

And I would take the word of that "former employee" (Bryon Adzic) over 99% of the people on this board, let alone Allen's.
 
And I would take the word of that "former employee" (Bryon Adzic) over 99% of the people on this board, let alone Allen's.

I think a lot of Bryon. And maybe Big Daddy's history from posts here is enough that he can't survive it. Sometimes, people will just say 'enough is enough' and certainly the whole point of the BOI is to give a experiences with vendors. People have a right to make their own decisions, and those decisions are often based on past experience.

But Sammy, didn't you tell him this?

shrap said:
Allen,

It was how you handled things prior to the last 1-2 years that earned you the reputation you have. You got enough horse sense about you to know that once trust is broken that it takes a long time to earn it back.

But if you truly are trying to run your business by a higher standard now, then my hat is off to you.

Whatever choices people make with Allen now, and those choices are theirs to make, I thought that was a good post.
 
Do you have a point in there somewhere, Lucille? :shrug01:
 
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106439&highlight=Allen+Belcher&page=3

Funny, You join Fauna on 5/7 and post's a "I'm thinking of purchasing from Big Daddy - is he good or bad?" thread on 5/8.

Everyone has already overstated their opinion of Allen Belcher "being good or bad"(including me,) on several other threads about him. So if you already did a search on Allen Belcher, and Big Daddy's Wholesale you could have just bumped one of those threads asking if anyone had a more recent transaction and would mind posting feedback. Anyway, Maybe in the future.

I guess you are new here so welcome to fauna. I do not believe that Allen's collection is infected. I have had 34 animals from Allen in my collection and they were all healthy and thriving. I traded 17 of them away, and still have 17 of them in my collection. All but one of them will be breeding for me this year.
I know several other keepers that have animals from Allen in their collection, and none of them have had any problems either.

If you do decide to purchase from him, be sure to post feedback on your experience one way or the other.
 
I agree!

If I remember correctly Allen initially took a "PR hit" a few yrs. ago from a former employee who took pictures of dirty cages and posted them.

I find it sad that someone of your intelligence can post something this ignorant in public. I'm not sad because its about me, I could really care less. Its sad because of the mentality behind it.

While I don't feel a need to be validated in the things I do other than being able to live with myself and facing the consequences for doing them, it takes a small minded person to put that ignorance into two simple words to degrade that person. So what, I was a former employee. I was a former employee with much more knowledge about the animals than my employer. Am I supposed to be less of a person or less intelligent because someone cut me a paycheck for my work and experience?

I also find it sad that you based your opinion by speaking to one person concerning that thread and not both. I would have thought better of you. Then again, I've had to change the way I think about some people in the last year or so, its not surprising that one more has been added to the list. A person that i may not have always agreed with but generally posts something with substance using a level head.

I guess you miss the posts some months after by " NON FORMER EMPLOYEES " that described the animals on his table and must have overlooked the posts in which Allen contradicted himself.

Just sad really.:shrug01:

Admittedly I haven't posted about Allen for some time. I haven't because I haven't been in facility, to his tables at a show and have talked to him once since the start of thread and that was for 5 minutes at a hospital. I don't look at his ads either so I really couldn't tell you if anything has changed or not.

Thanks to those that supported me then and still do now. I guess they know better since they obviously read what was posted and formed an opinion based on conversations with me & Allen or by what was posted without reading with a blind eye.
 
I find it sad that someone of your intelligence can post something this ignorant in public.
My post was not meant as a personal attack on you.
In general, former employees sometimes do have an "axe to grind".

I guess you miss the posts some months after by " NON FORMER EMPLOYEES " that described the animals on his table and must have overlooked the posts in which Allen contradicted himself.

Just sad really.

I admit I do not keep up with fauna as much as I used to, so I probably did miss a post or 2.

I also find it sad that you based your opinion by speaking to one person concerning that thread and not both.
You are reading things into my post that were not there. Allen called me (out of the blue, never spoken to him before or had any contact with him in my life) regarding a post I made concerning Clarks Geckos and Joe Capone.

RUN!!!!! He has IBD in his collection....
I think this is "over the top".

using a level head
My motto...
 
It really doesn't matter who called who. Those are your words so stand by them. I didn't read anymore into it than what was posted and insinuated by the words YOU posted.

Anything and everything I stated in my previous post still stands.
 
I also find it sad that you based your opinion by speaking to one person concerning that thread and not both.
I guess you missed the part where I said
Allen called me (out of the blue, never spoken to him before or had any contact with him in my life) regarding a post I made concerning Clarks Geckos and Joe Capone.
We did not discuss any other issues.
I have no opinion of you, I do not know anything about you and i am not judging you.
Anything and everything I stated in my previous post still stands.
Me too:)
 
I bought from Allen 2 weeks ago and i got .1 Albino and she eats anything u throw at her. He also gave me a het male for free. Dont know if its a true het but i really dont care becuase he's not in my breeding program but free is free and i will take good care of him reguardless what he is. Becuase I love my snakes and dragons and will treat them like my kids. With that said if i have any issues with them u can bet i will post them. I plan on taking them both to the vet after my albino gets done sheeding just for shit and giggles. Like i said if i run across something then i will post it. How about this ill post regaurdless of the out come .... Thanks www.showstoppingdragons.com
 
I did a transaction with Allen about 2 weeks ago for .2 sub-adult Russo hets. In my experience, Allen was very professional, prompt with communication and shipped very quickly. The animals arrived packed well and appear to be in good condition. One has already fed and the other refused her first meal but I have little to no doubt she'll settle in and start eating soon. So far so good and I anticipate doing more business with Allen in the future.

Garret Hebenstreit, Cincinnati, OH.
 
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