Paul... since you want to start in with me in PM.... how bout lets air all.... I have all the PM's and there are none missing for you to claim that didnt get posted. This can be verified by me forwarding the last in the set to the mods/admin as it has all the quotes.
Paul contacted me on 06-21-2009, 09:36 PM because apparently he didnt like what I had to say in this thread
Paul said:
did you read the whole posts? I called him numerous times and emailed him with no response. his wife made a remark about me before I said what I did about her. Harsh but needless to say he pushed a button with me. is what it is and it is actually been nearly two months ago. I wont respond to this thread anymore just because it is actually idiotic and half those people bloodbank recruited to post on their behalf are new accounts and no one of any importance. I kinda stuck my foot in my mouth with my temper and everyone focused on the remark to kisa instead of what was really important the horrible service and comminucation on their behalf. Im not posting any more emails or anything at all to date three hypos died and i wont post that either. The truth will eventually surface Barry has a smug attitude and will pay eventually.
And my response back to him at 06-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Me said:
If you are unwilling to post the missing emails... then my thoughts still stand.
Im into snake... not lizards... so I dont have a dog in this fight... but from what I have seen thus far... you are in the wrong and after that email you posted... I would have cut off contact with you and refused to do any more business with you.
IF you really want to clear this up.... post the missing emails.
Just a suggestion
To this I get the following at 06-21-2009, 10:33 PM
Paul said:
the missing emails dont prove anything and arent important. Simple fact of the matter is they shipped late wouldnt answer calls or emails at all before I cussed them I think you are a bit confused. All of what is posted transpired after I got the hypos. i didnt even complain until about 3 days later when one was nearly dead and he dropped the price for the same exact lizards. they wouldnt even answer me until I cussed them and threaten to blast them on the BOI in my email.
My response to him at 06-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Me said:
The one confused is you.
Please hear me out.
The emails prove you tried to contact them.... right now all folks have is your word... and quite frankly.... from the tread it aint looking to hot. Im not tryin to bash you... just stating fact from the thread's standpoint.
As for the shipping late, Stuff happens. I agree that everything should ship on time as planned but sometimes things are out of our control.
By not providing those emails.... you have not proved they wouldnt answer emails. See where we are coming from. All we have is you cussin them.
As to the price dropping.... thats the market. Your gonna have to suck that one up. In 2007 Albino Ball Pythons were going for $1000 and in 2008 Albino Ball Pythons were going for $550. Welcome to the market. You really dont have any room to complain here.
As for cussin and threatening to bash on the BOI... I welcome someone to try that with me. I keep EVERY email and my customer service is top notch. Doesnt matter how rude someone gets with me... Im staying professional even to the point when I tell them I no longer wish to have their business and cut off all contact.
Try to see things from our perspective.
He responded at 06-21-2009, 11:21 PM with
Paul said:
Again they wouldnt return my calls until I cussed and threatened them with the boi. The email is there that he wouldnt answer. Also I explained about the price drop. You are not reading the entire post. Im done with this and have been. Im not trying to be rude but this is all old news to me I stated I dont expect anything from them and thats the end of it. thanks for your unbiased oppinion, Paul
I didn’t respond because he said thats the end of it, and he then sent this one at 06-21-2009, 11:43 PM .... I didnt get it till today, so my response is below it.
Paul said:
I forgot to mention. Why should I have to prove myself did you see anywhere in the thread where he denies what he did? NO. Because he knows its true. He didnt say anything because he couldnt defend himself and as a cover he sent emails to everyone he know campaigning for their help and to post on his be half. Take a look only people that really defend him where customers that bought like one dragon. Also look at the join dates of many of the members. Just some valid points to ponder. Pretty sad turn out on his behalf if you ask me. Not many people had good to say and not one a known breeder or credible person on their side. Understandably people would be outraged at what I said but whats the difference really when you cuss someone? Is calling someone a d**k any worse than calling them a**? I guess I should have just called her a d**k sucker instead???? Because theres a damn good chance thats actually a true statement. But thats Taboo also to people on the Fuana site Im sure. But I ll keep that in mind for the future.
I responded to his last two PM’s on 06-22-2009, 04:32 PM
Me said:
1... he didnt have to defend himself because you made an a** of yourself.... so it already looks bad for you.
2... as to his campaigning.... neither your or I have actual proof that he sent his customers here. MAYBE they just felt like chiming in. Just like I have done with the folks that I have bought from or sold to.
3... always remember... you get more fly's with honey vs. vinegar. So if your looking for a certain outcome.... you can bet it wont happen if you cuss someone.
have a good day.
He then brought up something unrelated to his case and Blood Bank on 06-22-2009, 06:32 PM
Paul said:
i do have proof of the emails he sent out but as I said Im done with the thread and bloddbank I dont need them. stevens reputation is/will be ruined by barry's attitude. I assure you this! I just got another email from a girl stating she tried to make a purchase and he was a complete smart ass and told her an adult leather back goes for 5000 dollars. after she stated she had seen a number of them from 500 to 900 he told her go buy someone elses cheap beardeds if you want something cheap. Hes a smart ass and it will catch up to him. In my opinion if she was foolish enough to bite on that he would have charged her 5k for a 500 dragon given the chance. I wish I could affford to throw out 5k to make a point. Then everyone would see real quick what scum he is.
I responded back at 06-22-2009, 06:41 PM to let him know that I am done with the topic.
Me said:
Have a good day... my points still stand.
You are either unwilling or uncapable of backing up your claims... therefore you will never get anyone on your side...and you will always look like an a** in that thread.
You dont have to respond... cause like you.... Im done with this.
have a good day.
Apparently he didnt like the fact that I ended the PM session because I got this in return at
06-22-2009, 06:56 PM
Paul said:
dude what f***ing part of I dont care and im done with it do you NOT understand. I DONT NEED ANYONES APPROVAL OR TO TAKE SIDES WITH ME. Anyone with any real common sense knows the truth no matter how big of an a***ole they think I am for saying what I did. Leave me alone and quit trying to stir s**t! theres plenty of other threads for you to try to bait people in. Ive been toying with your dumb a** the whole time, you think I dont know what you are doing? Your doing exactly what I posted about in my last response, Go be a hypocrite somewhere else. please do not PM me again.
To be honest... that didnt set real well with me because I was trying to help him out since HE contacted me!..... not the other way around.
I then sent this to him at 06-22-2009, 08:00 PM
Me said:
Stir s**t..... Apparently you have me mistaken. YOU sir contacted me via PM. YOU sir said two PM's back that you were thru... and I did not contact you again. Then today you contact me again. YOU sir are the one stiring s**t.
I was trying to help you see things from others point of view since you contacted me... and apparently you decided you didnt want to see that point of view so when I said I was done... you cop an attitude with me.
As for toying with me.... only proves one thing. Everyone is right.... you sir are a tool, and you are the one that likes to stir s**t.
Have a good day
Then the confirmation from him at 06-22-2009, 08:06 PM
Paul said:
Notice how his attitude changed when I said Im done with the exchange?