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Bad Guy Terrell and Jackie Johnson, [email protected]

Thanks Clay Davenport I sent my name to him and I guess he will change it for me. He said that is the only way it can be done.

As far as a refund why would ship out a perfectly healthy bearded dragon. Almost two weeks later he says it is sick, and now I am suppose to fix his lack of care? Not to mention I would have to quarantine this animal for at least a few months since I have no idea what it has been exposed to!

In my opinion he got her, was happy with her, she dropped her eggs and that is why she lost weight. Now he wants his money back, so basicly he got free babies that I sold the same quality on here for $100 and up? You must be kidding.

Like I said he should have contacted me from the beginning (the day he got her) not
darn near two weeks later and now he decides to send a pic, think people what makes more since. If you got a bearded in the "horrible" condition he is claiming and you are a doctor, wouldnt you have been upset and contacted the seller immediately, or was he waiting to get her eggs and that was his plan all along! It has been almost two weeks, easily enough time for her to lay as she was pretty plump when I sent her out.

I refuse to be taken advantage of!!!
 
So, when was the second clutch dropped for you? When was this animal shipped? Are you saying that Manix never tried to call you, and that he is blatantly lying?

Manix, did this animal drop any eggs for you?

Can anyone impartial tell me how long is the normal time elapsed between clutches?
 
Here goes a post that he said she just dropped after a called him , now he is saying I got egg from her 2 weeks later. Keep track of your stories Name : Jackie

Once again here you go assuming things.... these are my animals not his and I am the one who post, replies and sells the animals. I was unable to talk to you at the time so you spoke to him, whats odd about that?

Yes the ad said graivd as she was at the time the ad was posted. Shortly after posting she dropped clutch #2, then you contacted me and I told you she even dropped and may have a third coming. You said thats fine she is still a good looking bearded. I even updated the ad description so everyone could see that she dropped the second clutch, its no big secret. As far as you copying the title from the email why didnt you copy the text?

You have had the bearded for a little over a week now, all of a sudden shes sick and wont eat which is the complete opposite of when she left here!

I like how you include the title and how shes supposedly sick and everything else but you never responded to why you tried to be slick and have the bearded arrive before you paid..... you were in such a hurry and called several times a day but never called to say she arrived or anything until now you are saying something on the website.
 
Sorry Quoted from page 1 "Once again here you go assuming things.... these are my animals not his and I am the one who post, replies and sells the animals. I was unable to talk to you at the time so you spoke to him, whats odd about that?

Yes the ad said graivd as she was at the time the ad was posted. Shortly after posting she dropped clutch #2, then you contacted me and I told you she even dropped and may have a third coming. You said thats fine she is still a good looking bearded. I even updated the ad description so everyone could see that she dropped the second clutch, its no big secret. As far as you copying the title from the email why didnt you copy the text?

You have had the bearded for a little over a week now, all of a sudden shes sick and wont eat which is the complete opposite of when she left here!

I like how you include the title and how shes supposedly sick and everything else but you never responded to why you tried to be slick and have the bearded arrive before you paid..... you were in such a hurry and called several times a day but never called to say she arrived or anything until now you are saying something on the website."
 
MikeCurtin said:
Can anyone impartial tell me how long is the normal time elapsed between clutches?
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Females may lay clutches as often as 3 weeks apart and can retain sperm for several clutches. I have heard of dragons going as little as 2 weeks, and i've heard of dragons that have stretched it to 4 and a half weeks.
 
NO I had her for a ONE WEEK and he had my money for a week before that . In one of his post he said she just had a clutch right before I called him and that he updated that on the ad he posted but that is no where to be seen on the ad. If I just received heathy animal, I would have been happy, a clutch that would have been christmas. No i would goes through this and post something negative. NO CLUTCH ,EGGS, or BABIES here
 
Why is it that he is going by his girlfriend name ? very shady Who is ?Terrell Johnson or Lee Or Tim? people with that many names has something to hind.
 
JordanAng420 said:
Females may lay clutches as often as 3 weeks apart and can retain sperm for several clutches. I have heard of dragons going as little as 2 weeks, and i've heard of dragons that have stretched it to 4 and a half weeks.
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This ad was posted on the 18th of September, so that makes it very unlikely that she would have laid any additional eggs in the OP's possession, especially when we take into account the time between the seller posting the ad and telling the OP the dragon had laid. It makes it even less likely after the seller tells the OP that he's only had the dragon a little over a week when he first complained.

Manix, do you recall if/when the seller told you this girl had laid the second clutch?
 
maxxx25 said:
JordanAng420 said:
A infection is a infection Vet or not , and a real doctor would not make a statement without seeing the patient. That is 101. Talk about making the victim take the stand. Have fun with this topic People . This is enough
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Okay... this whole thing has piqued my curiosity, so I have a couple of basic questions about this whole physician or not tangent as it does, in fact, bear some relevance to this thread.

Allopathic or osteopathic? And given your profile location of NYC, am I correct in the assumption that you are licensed in NYS?
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Allopathic

Allopathic
Ken Harbart said:
maxxx25 said:
Okay... this whole thing has piqued my curiosity, so I have a couple of basic questions about this whole physician or not tangent as it does, in fact, bear some relevance to this thread.

Allopathic or osteopathic? And given your profile location of NYC, am I correct in the assumption that you are licensed in NYS?
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[email protected] said:
Yes but once again you have failed to mention the one lady who was complaining about me has not dissagreed with my last post on her thread beacuse she is a paypal scammer. For all of you who do not know what we are talking about you can go and read the other thread on here about me from Ember Sparks.

I have sold over 30 dragons because of fauna not counting you.... so where is everyone else if I am selling sick beardeds. Plus I have sold over 2 dozen baby beardeds and over 20 geckos, none of them have complained..... where do you think all of my ads go, deleted once they are sold. Or am I just taking time out of my day to post animals I do not want to sell and then removing the ads?


As for the guy who wanted the YB he is the one who did not want to get her. I never told him he could not have a credit and as for bad odds in the clutch I'm sure any ball python breeder will tell you they have had horrible odds and some too good to be true, nothing is guaranteed in a clutch.

Like the guy who said in his post he has bought and sold to many people and they do not leave any feedback. People will complain before they compliment so where is all of my neg. feedback???
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Do you have any proof that I'm a "paypal scammer"? I would like to see the email from paypal saying "be careful", as they are objective in disputes. I have done business with Dachiu, Citrus Dragons, as well as Chris Allen, and I've never had any issues with anyone except for you. Yes, it took me a while to get to my thread to post a reply, I have had a family issue that needed to be dealt with. I'm sure if paypal felt the need to tell someone to be careful then the paypal account in question would be closed, that would make the most sense to me, but the account is not closed.
 
There was one more question in there... given your profile location of NYC, am I correct in the assumption that you are licensed in NYS?
 
Ken Harbart said:
Okay... this whole thing has piqued my curiosity, so I have a couple of basic questions about this whole physician or not tangent as it does, in fact, bear some relevance to this thread.

Allopathic or osteopathic? And given your profile location of NYC, am I correct in the assumption that you are licensed in NYS?
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Does he even know the difference?

WHY do you figure "allopathic
 
maxxx25 said:
He never gave me a date, just told me that she was 2-3 weeks gravid .
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I think you misunderstood the question. He posted her for sale as gravid on the 18th. He claims she laid as you and he were completing the transaction. Do you recall him telling you this, and if so, when did that conversation take place?
 
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