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Info Help me find my snakes! They were taken by Felipe Terrell

If it was I that invested the money it would be different. The investment was not only in the dragons but in me. My family believes in my breeding. I was unstable with phones & ect me & logan has had contact throughout the whole ordeal. We've only been not in contact for maybe the last month or so. And I was inbetween phone services. And I can say for the records I've given logan snakes before at no charge just to add to his stock, so there's more to the story that meets the eye. You your self make it seem he's beein in the dark, which is WRONG! He knew I didn't have what he was asking for, I can't pay what I don't have. I can't take 200.00 away from my kids my family or my animals. It'll have to come extra he knows hell be paid once I move some of my older breeders, but with these boi post nobody reads my ads so that won't even likely happen in the time id want it to happen. I'm reduced to craigslist. So just by doing this here he's still losing and so am I. The best thing for the situation is for me to be able to move on from this so he can be paid and we can all go about our buisness.
 
Some times things don't go as planned. Fine example here. Seems to me that the person who made this thread reacted a little prematurely when things didn't go as smoothly as planned. Some times the BOI is a good thing. But some times its a place for someone to run crying when things don't go their way - like a kid running to the teacher to get someone in trouble for unnecessary reasons. I could be wrong though. Since none of us but the two people in question here know the real story. Just seems there is a lot of holes in this one that doesn't make sense to me. The person claiming the wrong doing here seems way too calm for someone who got ripped off. He wasn't upset at all that he lost a "family pet" and its getting replaced by money. If I was him I would care more about the pet then the money and try to get the person accused to get the snakes he sold back from the one he sold them to. But thats just me.
 
Just did some more reading from other threads. So I would like to change what I said in my previous post. I doubt you will see the money from this guy as he seems to have a very bad rep of ripping people off. =(
 
NeoReptiliac said:
Some times things don't go as planned. Fine example here. Seems to me that the person who made this thread reacted a little prematurely when things didn't go as smoothly as planned. Some times the BOI is a good thing. But some times its a place for someone to run crying when things don't go their way - like a kid running to the teacher to get someone in trouble for unnecessary reasons. I could be wrong though. Since none of us but the two people in question here know the real story. Just seems there is a lot of holes in this one that doesn't make sense to me. The person claiming the wrong doing here seems way too calm for someone who got ripped off. He wasn't upset at all that he lost a "family pet" and its getting replaced by money. If I was him I would care more about the pet then the money and try to get the person accused to get the snakes he sold back from the one he sold them to. But thats just me.
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Its the type of situation to were a bunch of things go wrong and when the smoke clears there's two sides that are upset. I would like to know what's going on with the snakes I lost as well. But I know its a lost cause, I've moved on from the lost, I gave all my sympathy to logan for the lost because it was made clear that he was a special snake to them. During the time my daughter 1st got sick I was making trips on the greyhound constantly back &7 fourth from los angeles to texas, doing what I had to do, I left the snakes to my mom, who's housbandry skills are excellent. Certain snakes were in certain places. Trusted places, well places I thought were trusted. & my snake keepers at work while I went through this. I have none of those snakes now. So when you compare the losses we all have them even the plain title of the thread will lead a person to belieeve I actually stole some snakes and ran waway. That's a BAD guy. I was given the snakes to breed and I ran into bad luck and mishandled the situation. Money had nonthing to do with the deal we had, but they said they'll take that and I have no problem giving that to them for there losses it just has to be when I have it to give. Simple as that. I don't see a bad guy in that.
 
NeoReptiliac said:
Just did some more reading from other threads. So I would like to change what I said in my previous post. I doubt you will see the money from this guy as he seems to have a very bad rep of ripping people off. =(
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This scam and ripping off nonsense is gonna have to stop. I've ripped nobody off nor do I have the intentions on ripping anybody off. The only two people who have a claim in anything wrong that has happen with me is jaimie and logan. And both situations occured over the same circumstances. I had to put my family 1st. And I've spoken with hhmoore about the fact that not just I has had the pw to my LoneCoast account. My 1st time seeing what you were seeing was the same way you are seeing it. I dealt with several people close to me do to me going to school. So we all had pws to serval different things. I doubt they'll scam anybody or if any of those ads actually went through. But its for the exact reason I changed my account when I returned to breeding. In home state. With totattly different stock. I'm trying to turn it around for me and my family and my animals are everything to my livelyhood. I honestly don't think a guy who is sccaming peole will knowingly be active on breeding and housbandry message boards gaining knowlegde as I can. That doesn't make sense. But that's my side. I'm no scammer. I'm no scum. I'm simply a young breeder trying to get better.
 
NeoReptiliac said:
Some times things don't go as planned. Fine example here. Seems to me that the person who made this thread reacted a little prematurely when things didn't go as smoothly as planned. Some times the BOI is a good thing. But some times its a place for someone to run crying when things don't go their way - like a kid running to the teacher to get someone in trouble for unnecessary reasons. I could be wrong though. Since none of us but the two people in question here know the real story. Just seems there is a lot of holes in this one that doesn't make sense to me. The person claiming the wrong doing here seems way too calm for someone who got ripped off. He wasn't upset at all that he lost a "family pet" and its getting replaced by money. If I was him I would care more about the pet then the money and try to get the person accused to get the snakes he sold back from the one he sold them to. But thats just me.
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I am not calm at all! This ordeal has been going on for near 6 months. Money is not what I want at all, but it is better than nothing. Felipe has only given me one snake for free and I gave him one for free first. He lost two of my snakes and the one given in my mind replaces one of the missing ones. I lost a breeder female and a very valued family snake of 10 years. He gave me back a female and is paying for the male. Do not bad mouth me for having my snakes taken and not returned. I still want them back, but I have come to terms with what has been done. He is righting himself as best as he can and I forgave him because of that effort.
 
wolverine3290 said:
I am not calm at all! This ordeal has been going on for near 6 months. Money is not what I want at all, but it is better than nothing. Felipe has only given me one snake for free and I gave him one for free first. He lost two of my snakes and the one given in my mind replaces one of the missing ones. I lost a breeder female and a very valued family snake of 10 years. He gave me back a female and is paying for the male. Do not bad mouth me for having my snakes taken and not returned. I still want them back, but I have come to terms with what has been done. He is righting himself as best as he can and I forgave him because of that effort.
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On top of that, We had very sparse and spaced out amounts of contact. He kept changing numbers. But he managed to contact me and work on a deal, so I want to finish this and be done.
 
wolverine3290 said:
On top of that, We had very sparse and spaced out amounts of contact. He kept changing numbers. But he managed to contact me and work on a deal, so I want to finish this and be done.
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Exactly so I'm doing what I can as fast as I can to get it resolved as I stated I am not a bad guy and I'm positive logan can vouch for that. Even after this.
 
It all seems pretty convenient for you though..Especially the part in your last reply..You "assume" the people who were using that account for scamming people wont be using it again???Sounds to me like you got caught so maybe now you will knock it off??I dont know why you say the person brought your name here,is losing out on their money cause it hurts your sales so you cant pay them?I think you are mad cause now people know whats up?How are you paying for school and feeding your family??Maybe you should get into another businness..If you have no cash flow,then this isnt the businness for you...!!People shouldnt have to wait for money cause of your mistakes....
 
Iraqvet said:
It all seems pretty convenient for you though..Especially the part in your last reply..You "assume" the people who were using that account for scamming people wont be using it again???Sounds to me like you got caught so maybe now you will knock it off??I dont know why you say the person brought your name here,is losing out on their money cause it hurts your sales so you cant pay them?I think you are mad cause now people know whats up?How are you paying for school and feeding your family??Maybe you should get into another businness..If you have no cash flow,then this isnt the businness for you...!!People shouldnt have to wait for money cause of your mistakes....
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I can see you just wanna see somebody go down for something. I didn't assume they did anything scams were brought to my attention before and that's what I was refrecing to. I don't see how logan can be willing to accept the resolution and work from there but you can't. But quite frankly it seems ignorant, and this is my last response to anything you have to say.
 
Well I do have a right to my opinion.I guess you have the right to not answer my questions cause you cant without making yourself look bad...Thankfully this place exists..As far as resolutions go,he can accept whatever he wants..I will never have to worry about that cause I will never be doing businness with you..
 
This thread is almost 4 months old... how hard would it be to send $50 a month till it was paid off. If you did once this started.. this would be behind you now.

Why not make some sort of effort?

As to you loosing money.... I can only hope that you were smart enough not to put all your eggs in one basket... ie trying to become a pro breeder before you got your reputation built. Its hard enough to make ends meet as a small time breeder... I wouldnt even dream about quiting my regular job to go pro.
 
shlages said:
Felipe you say that "other people had your pw". What were they're names? Why would they come on here & post up STOLEN PICTURES?
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To be honest they weren't fauna users when I met them that's why I didn't suspect them at 1st but its the only explanation. I didn't know any last names, but the 2 guys were Chris (former us Global Employee) and (ruben, met him on craigslist) they've dissapeared on me as well & ruben with all my snakes. Id seem them "flip animals" like buying on craigslist & then selling for more 2 or 3 weeks later. I could see them taking the chance to scam people knowing I wouldn't catch wind because of what I was going through. But I haven't been told of an actual scam that actually happend so idk.
 
CoastalBreeder said:
To be honest they weren't fauna users when I met them that's why I didn't suspect them at 1st but its the only explanation. I didn't know any last names, but the 2 guys were Chris (former us Global Employee) and (ruben, met him on craigslist) they've dissapeared on me as well & ruben with all my snakes. Id seem them "flip animals" like buying on craigslist & then selling for more 2 or 3 weeks later. I could see them taking the chance to scam people knowing I wouldn't catch wind because of what I was going through. But I haven't been told of an actual scam that actually happend so idk.
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ummmm, so correct me if I am wrong...but according to your post, it appears that you shared your PASSWORD with people that you barely knew?:ack2:

*I don't see any last names, locations etc. FACTS to back up your story. There are hundreds of people named Chris or Ruben. How about last names, locations, business entities? Otherwise, this looks like a bunch of "cover" that you are spinning.

Nah, I don't see you getting anyone to trust you anytime soon, so if you lose your investment, it's not US that is to blame, it's YOU.:shrug01:
 
Lol, seems like you don't know the difference between a deadbeat kid, wantng to mess with reptiles and aess with reptiles or a serious enthusiast. I haven't been in texas since july. Who cares what they're last names were. Buisness? I wish it was that easy to track them down. in dealing with animals today espcecially when you actually have a large amout of animals around it gets hectic with help. And ill tell you like mr iraqvet, I'm not feeding into the ignorance, you think I did whatever it is for 1, it isn't your problem its logans and jaimes. For 2, go the cops about it if it hurts you that bad. Oh you can't! Somebody please take me to court if I did something that damn bad. Weres the proof? All I see is a bunch of so called adults and and accusations. You guys are really starting to get petty with this. You guys probably never expierence hard times in life. But some of us do. And if you've never did anything you wanted to forget and move past your a lie. & I also will no longer respond to your messages. Don't have time for it.
 
why is it that you knew how to contact him but failed to do so?Since you are so stand up why wouldn't you have kept in contact with him throughout the situation?Instead you neglected to handle this problem until it was brought here.Plus you yourself admit to "investing $2500 into beardeds",But you couldn't pay this guy for the snakes you were neglected in caring for & keeping?
 
CoastalBreeder said:
Lol, seems like you don't know the difference between a deadbeat kid, wantng to mess with reptiles and aess with reptiles or a serious enthusiast. I haven't been in texas since july. Who cares what they're last names were. Buisness? I wish it was that easy to track them down. in dealing with animals today espcecially when you actually have a large amout of animals around it gets hectic with help. And ill tell you like mr iraqvet, I'm not feeding into the ignorance, you think I did whatever it is for 1, it isn't your problem its logans and jaimes. For 2, go the cops about it if it hurts you that bad. Oh you can't! Somebody please take me to court if I did something that damn bad. Weres the proof? All I see is a bunch of so called adults and and accusations. You guys are really starting to get petty with this. You guys probably never expierence hard times in life. But some of us do. And if you've never did anything you wanted to forget and move past your a lie. & I also will no longer respond to your messages. Don't have time for it.
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It's not a problem, sweetheart. I was just trying to help you by showing you the HOLES in your cover. Good luck making a living off this hobby, you are off to a great start!:ack2:

*calling potential customers names, inferring that their questions (attempts to clear up doubts in their own minds) are stupid, and we should leave him alone, accept his excuse without further ado and buy from him, BECAUSE, his friend already has forgiven him and HE wants to move on...:rolleyes:
 
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