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Phantom Dragon Yellow Italian Leatherback het Hypo X Georgia BD Yellow Hypopastel X Dragon Whispers. So out of the 20 that hatched i got 11 leathers not a bad ratio all 11 leathers that are super smooth.
 
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The leathers are crossed into a millspaugh female. The smoothie was a baby of mine from last year crossed into an orange female.

Pictured first is the smoothie cross parents(mom in heavy shed)
Pictured second is the dad to the leather cross, poss double het older picture
Pictured third on the left is the mom to the leather cross
 
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Thanks man. The smoothie cross isn't a super high color cross, but I'm hoping just to get smoother dragons and selectively produce a better smoothie and understand their genetics a bit better. There seems to be some variation in the dragons as far as how smooth they are....some are smooth, some are reduced scale, and some are normal.

Here is a pic of older siblings from this year and it shows some of the variation from normal to smooth.
 
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chris allen said:
Thanks man. The smoothie cross isn't a super high color cross, but I'm hoping just to get smoother dragons and selectively produce a better smoothie and understand their genetics a bit better. There seems to be some variation in the dragons as far as how smooth they are....some are smooth, some are reduced scale, and some are normal.

Here is a pic of older siblings from this year and it shows some of the variation from normal to smooth.
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After a couple of breedings I would love to see some of those Classic Chris Allen reds breed into these guys. That is a nice variety of smoothness, that micro-scaled one in the middle would be a good dragon to work with in the future.


Keep them pics coming:)

Carlos
 
Finally

So when i started this thread, i added a female that was laying eggs in the "lay Bin"
Today is exactly the 70 day mark and they finally decided to pop some heads out. This was the first time i crossed this exact pair.

He was a double het leatherback. and she was a hypo het trans ( well she was never proven to be a trans... Until now)

I added a few pics of a hypo and a normal hatching and what appers to be a hypo translucent. the missin dark markings on that particular dragons head Show to be a hypo trans, but i could be wrong. We will find out when it hatches. OR It could be a hypo trans leatherback. time will tell!!!
 
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Oh boy Tom, they look like they are gonna be ugly!!! Why don't you just send the rest of the eggs over to me?:D

Can't wait to see them in a few weeks!!!
 
Iguanachic said:
Oh boy Tom, they look like they are gonna be ugly!!! Why don't you just send the rest of the eggs over to me?:D

Can't wait to see them in a few weeks!!!
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Lol, i want to know if the hypo trans is a leatherback?

Breeding hets, your odds are low with getting many high end dragons out of a clutch. Like rolling the dice.
 
dragonluver83 said:
So when i started this thread, i added a female that was laying eggs in the "lay Bin"
Today is exactly the 70 day mark and they finally decided to pop some heads out. This was the first time i crossed this exact pair.

He was a double het leatherback. and she was a hypo het trans ( well she was never proven to be a trans... Until now)

I added a few pics of a hypo and a normal hatching and what appers to be a hypo translucent. the missin dark markings on that particular dragons head Show to be a hypo trans, but i could be wrong. We will find out when it hatches. OR It could be a hypo trans leatherback. time will tell!!!
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It was a hypo translucent leatherback! When i can upload the pic i will something is not letting me upload the pics
 
BADragons said:
Wow Tom, you got really lucky on that breeding. I can't wait to see pics of those little ones.
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The luck of the roll my friend, they have all hatched but one. when i get the others cleaned up i will post pics and then its time for alittle "counting"
What hatched from: normals, hypos, hypo leathers, hypo trans, and hypo trans leatherbacks. unfortunately i didnt get a trans leatherback, but maybe in here double clutch there will be one:thumbsup:

I dunno whats wrong but its not letting me load pictures on here???
 
The only hypo trans leatherback from this clutch. First picture coming outta the eggs.

The second picture is the dragons bathing. you can see the hypo trans leatherback with its hypo trans sibling.
 
dragonluver83 said:
The only hypo trans leatherback from this clutch. First picture coming outta the eggs.

The second picture is the dragons bathing. you can see the hypo trans leatherback with its hypo trans sibling.
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That Hypo. Trans. Leather is a keeper for sure, did you get more clutches from this same pairing?
What are you using for incubation substrate? I've used Vermiculite for a couple of years now and the only big issue I have is mold, I'm looking for some alternatives. Maybe hatchrite, dunno maybe something will work better so I can keep my hatch rate up.

Congrats Tom those are some pretty little babies.


Carlos
 
BADragons said:
That Hypo. Trans. Leather is a keeper for sure, did you get more clutches from this same pairing?
What are you using for incubation substrate? I've used Vermiculite for a couple of years now and the only big issue I have is mold, I'm looking for some alternatives. Maybe hatchrite, dunno maybe something will work better so I can keep my hatch rate up.

Congrats Tom those are some pretty little babies.


Carlos
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Im not sure what Tom uses, but the best vermiculite out there is the coarse glitter grade stuff from big apple herp. I'm telling you it works great. Its not cheap though.
http://www.bigappleherp.com/Big-Apples-Perfect-Hatch-Glitter-Grade-Vermiculite-8-Quart
 
Ed Clark said:
Way to go Tom, looks great!
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Thanks Ed.
BADragons said:
That Hypo. Trans. Leather is a keeper for sure, did you get more clutches from this same pairing?
What are you using for incubation substrate? I've used Vermiculite for a couple of years now and the only big issue I have is mold, I'm looking for some alternatives. Maybe hatchrite, dunno maybe something will work better so I can keep my hatch rate up.

Congrats Tom those are some pretty little babies.


Carlos
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I got another clutch from that male female pairing. i dont know my chances on getting another hypo trans leathers though.
I do have other crosses i have posted 4 of my crosses in this thread. The second female i pictured, (hypo trans) she layed two clutches of 29 eggs in both clutches. It was the same male double het that bred to the hypo het trans. So i will have many many more nice high end dragons. not to mention the red hypo trans leather to two different red leather females! But i do have many more crosses i have not posted. I cant post all my goods in one thread, or at one shot.
For the last three years i have been using eco-earth. It has been working. before that i was using vermiculite. You have to get the mix right (water to dirt.) once you got that its all down hill from there.
Actually you will see the hypo trans leather in the classified section when it's ready. Why keep the babies when i got the breeders!:thumbsup:
chris allen said:
Im not sure what Tom uses, but the best vermiculite out there is the coarse glitter grade stuff from big apple herp. I'm telling you it works great. Its not cheap though.
http://www.bigappleherp.com/Big-Apples-Perfect-Hatch-Glitter-Grade-Vermiculite-8-Quart
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Who are you? your giving out info like you coined your own dragon or something. :rolleyes: MD: 1 - Jersey: -2
 
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chris allen said:
Thats funny.
I'm bigger than you, I win, simple as that.
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Lol, your muscles beat me here, how? You going to beat up your keyboard and send me the pics?:willy_nil Your to much of a pud to drive down here for the two day show in Timinioum. OH never mind pops, you got kids! Besides i dont think you can hang. All that buffness for nothing!



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