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I have a good friend who works for them, in the SAME COUNTY as the Wises' live. Contact me by PM if you want my help Maggie
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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie
- Thread starter DAND
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I have a good friend who works for them, in the SAME COUNTY as the Wises' live. Contact me by PM if you want my help Maggie
ozz465
Classifieds Nut
"Though, after just making a few phone calls, I have verified that there was no officer at their place this morning. "
I knew it , we may have a pair of runners here people, seems it's best to press charges if applicable now .
I knew it , we may have a pair of runners here people, seems it's best to press charges if applicable now .
Gecko_Den
New member
They have snakes there that they haven't paid him for in full that had nothing to do with the auctions.
Southern Wolf
I don't bite..... HARD!!!
dand... if your willing.... I will paypal you $40 (to cover gas) to go back tonight with the Police.... take everything in this thread as proof.
rjarosek
JPark Reptiles
I'll match that!
hezekiah
New member
I have very little to add, since I wasn't involved in the auctions etc except as a spectator. However, I find myself wondering...Christine and Jeff:
Was the ruining of your reputations, your herp business(es), and possibly your life worth any of this? Here I see the possibility of extended jail/prison time, and the loss of your children as a probable end result of this. I love my family, and I appreciate my credit, but I would never ruin my life to go to a funeral and/or pay off an old bill. The fact that you did this while collecting monies for widows and children is exponentially worse.
Was the ruining of your reputations, your herp business(es), and possibly your life worth any of this? Here I see the possibility of extended jail/prison time, and the loss of your children as a probable end result of this. I love my family, and I appreciate my credit, but I would never ruin my life to go to a funeral and/or pay off an old bill. The fact that you did this while collecting monies for widows and children is exponentially worse.
Post Office bulletin board???
hezekiah
New member
(Additional to my above post
I also have had degenerative arthritis in my joints, particularly my knees, since I was 17, and have been dealing with the pain over half my life. There's no knee pain in the world that would make me steal from a widow and her children. To quote my old doctor,"Suck it up, Princess."
I also have had degenerative arthritis in my joints, particularly my knees, since I was 17, and have been dealing with the pain over half my life. There's no knee pain in the world that would make me steal from a widow and her children. To quote my old doctor,"Suck it up, Princess."
ballmom
New member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs_wise_reptiles
I just got a collect phone call from him, he is at the local jail. He got arrest for some stupid joke at the bank couldn't give me all the details .... OMG what am I gonna do.....
Wonders if this really happened?
Where I got it from
Originally Posted by Mrs_wise_reptiles
I just got a collect phone call from him, he is at the local jail. He got arrest for some stupid joke at the bank couldn't give me all the details .... OMG what am I gonna do.....
Wonders if this really happened?
Where I got it from
ozz465
Classifieds Nut
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs_wise_reptiles
I just got a collect phone call from him, he is at the local jail. He got arrest for some stupid joke at the bank couldn't give me all the details .... OMG what am I gonna do.....
Wonders if this really happened?
Where I got it from
was an april fools joke , link got posted a few pages back .
ballmom
New member
Just a reminder! I posted this on Gecko Haven's FB page and will put it on my own.
Please do so on yours if you have not already! Think I will put it on my website as well now!
http://digg.com/search?s=wise+reptiles
Please do so on yours if you have not already! Think I will put it on my website as well now!
http://digg.com/search?s=wise+reptiles
Strike_Force_Reptiles
Member
i will be adding this link to my website shortly and will be making contact with multiple law enforcement agencies
kmarsh
New member
OMG!!! This post isnt even 2 days old and it looks like my computer threw up and all this stuff is here.. 78 pages worth. If that doesn't tell them that there is no rock they can crawl under that this group of people wont blow to peices to get justice for what they have done to these families.
Maggie I am so sorry about all of this and still am here if you need me or anything.
Sadly they used the first auction we all contributed to to find out how we all will give to what we feel is a special need when we did the jump in the lake thing for donations. I love this site and contributed, just hate that they used that to find our vulnerablity and to prey on it. Just makes me sick like everyone else.
I understand the not jumping to quickly to advise on what you think is a bad person posting. I almost made this mistake last night because of having been bitten before, I thought it was happening again but today it all turned out ok. Sadly its people like these two that make us either not trust or to get taken because we dont know where that line is between trusting and getting taken.
I love this community and the way that they pull together and will help in any way I can. As for the kids, I feel for the idea of Child protective services being called in but as a grand parent raising a grandchild from drug users... probably the best thing that could be done for those kids at this point. If they will do these kind of things to tenderhearts here, just imagine what they may be doing with those innocent kids there. Who is protecting them from all of this going on or taking care of them while mom and dad are busy scamming and scheming, and raising rats in the bedroom. .
Maggie we love you and hope that the girls are off enjoying the summer before long. Let us know what ya need. PM me if I can help in any way. Chuck was and always will be a good man, brash maybe but he wouldn't stand for this and neither can we.
Maggie I am so sorry about all of this and still am here if you need me or anything.
Sadly they used the first auction we all contributed to to find out how we all will give to what we feel is a special need when we did the jump in the lake thing for donations. I love this site and contributed, just hate that they used that to find our vulnerablity and to prey on it. Just makes me sick like everyone else.
I understand the not jumping to quickly to advise on what you think is a bad person posting. I almost made this mistake last night because of having been bitten before, I thought it was happening again but today it all turned out ok. Sadly its people like these two that make us either not trust or to get taken because we dont know where that line is between trusting and getting taken.
I love this community and the way that they pull together and will help in any way I can. As for the kids, I feel for the idea of Child protective services being called in but as a grand parent raising a grandchild from drug users... probably the best thing that could be done for those kids at this point. If they will do these kind of things to tenderhearts here, just imagine what they may be doing with those innocent kids there. Who is protecting them from all of this going on or taking care of them while mom and dad are busy scamming and scheming, and raising rats in the bedroom. .
Maggie we love you and hope that the girls are off enjoying the summer before long. Let us know what ya need. PM me if I can help in any way. Chuck was and always will be a good man, brash maybe but he wouldn't stand for this and neither can we.
mechnut450
New member
I hate to say this but I got a feeling they are or about to skip out really fast for a period. ( erasing all account info they can and buying time with more lies to bail out wit has much resources they can stuff.. I hope these fool get what they earned and get caught with their pants down in more than one way ( jail refence ) 
I think any reptiles donations for said auctions need to have a estimated dollar value on them too so there a rough figure that between what moneies and animals they managed to fruad people out of.
example
donated pied snake female ( est value $1700 )
shipping of the snake to xxxx address $50
monwy paid to wise for window -2 daughters fund ( $2000 )
this with the paypal page save ( highlighting the transactions) would help save dand and other ( lawyers) tons of paper work and accountanting time.
I also think those that have sold them amiinals and not been paid should show too since the defrauded on them as a secondary case...
I think any reptiles donations for said auctions need to have a estimated dollar value on them too so there a rough figure that between what moneies and animals they managed to fruad people out of. example
donated pied snake female ( est value $1700 )
shipping of the snake to xxxx address $50
monwy paid to wise for window -2 daughters fund ( $2000 )
this with the paypal page save ( highlighting the transactions) would help save dand and other ( lawyers) tons of paper work and accountanting time.
I also think those that have sold them amiinals and not been paid should show too since the defrauded on them as a secondary case...
I just put a stop to that....
SamanthaJane13
Demon Pazuzu/B!tchGoddess
Many of you know that in my spare time, I not only belong to several other herp forums, but I also post news stories for a crime forum.
I'm a Supreme Member of TruTV's crime library forum-formerly CourtTV.
Since this whole train wreck is taking on a life of it's own on the internet, I posted a thread on their Other Hot Stories board.
http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?p=9272723#post9272723
This forum is over 8,000 members string, and if they can't generate outrage, NOBODY CAN!
They may also have some good ideas for how to deal with this in the legal arena.
If so, I'll be bringing those posts here.
With hundreds of lurkers visiting the crime forums everyday to follow their favorite case, this will help get the word out about our forum criminals...INTERNET-WIDE.
I'm a Supreme Member of TruTV's crime library forum-formerly CourtTV.
Since this whole train wreck is taking on a life of it's own on the internet, I posted a thread on their Other Hot Stories board.
http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?p=9272723#post9272723
This forum is over 8,000 members string, and if they can't generate outrage, NOBODY CAN!
They may also have some good ideas for how to deal with this in the legal arena.
If so, I'll be bringing those posts here.
With hundreds of lurkers visiting the crime forums everyday to follow their favorite case, this will help get the word out about our forum criminals...INTERNET-WIDE.
brd7666
Well-known member
Way to go Rich.
crissabella
New member
Thank you, Rich
R. Eventide
So say we all!
Do we know for a fact that these two have kids...or is this something else they've come up with over the past few months to garner sympathy? (My apologies if it's been proven; my brain is overflowing.)
Also, I highly doubt any of their excuses/stories--knee trouble, prescription meds, drugs, electric bills, funeral/hotel costs, etc.--are actually true. And even if they are, I highly doubt they used the stolen money for that stuff (except maybe drugs). People like this aren't going to spend money on things they should; they are going to spend it on anything and everything they don't need. In this case, that would be computer software and reptiles, at the very least (and I'm sure there's more).
Also, I highly doubt any of their excuses/stories--knee trouble, prescription meds, drugs, electric bills, funeral/hotel costs, etc.--are actually true. And even if they are, I highly doubt they used the stolen money for that stuff (except maybe drugs). People like this aren't going to spend money on things they should; they are going to spend it on anything and everything they don't need. In this case, that would be computer software and reptiles, at the very least (and I'm sure there's more).