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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

Couldn't help myself. Had to leave a comment when this popped up.

http://www.mlive.com/grandblanc/index.ssf/2009/06/grand_blanc_township_redneckth.html

And my comment, since it don't appear to be posted yet...

LOL WOW! Although I did get a chuckle out of the whole theme wedding thing, there are much more fitting stories to be told about these two.

For instance, they headed an online auction to generate funds for a recent widow and her 3 children. They sent a small portion of what was supposed to go to them, and pocketed the rest. Then when caught, filed a fraudulent claim with their bank, to get back what they did send.

When confronted, they tried to blame it on drugs, or at least, abuse of prescription meds, as well as a full admission to their guilt. The entire story can be read at the Board of Inquiry here... http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179622

A word of warning though, we are a tight knitted community, and you are likely to run across some heated comments. It's a long thread too, you you might want to get a beverage first if you intend to read it.

You people up there deserve to know that these two heartless individuals are amongst your population. Could even make a nice news story for you. :)

Rick



About halfway done printing, then I go to the local cop shop and give them everything too. :thumbsup:
 
It's 7-EDST on a Friday.

The weather is nice & it's Memorial Day weekend.

I assume that a lot of people are going out or going away for the holiday.
 
To Christina Wise.
I know you are lurking and checking this forum(how could you not be)
I just did a google search of you two scum bags. I thought that taking money from 3 innocent kids and their grieving mother was the worst thing in the world to do to someone. Then I find out you went on someones site and stole ultrasound pics from a mother who was pregnant with triplets. Those baby girls were born at 27 wks. It was not a miscarriage. Any baby born sleeping after 24 weeks is considered a stillborn. And most babies born at 27 wks do live for at least a few days. You are horrible have you ever gone threw anything like that? Can you imagine losing a child and then find out someone stole your child's identity to take money from someone else. You people are sick. I had 2 daughters born at 27 weeks. I want you to watch this video and think about what the woman went through that you stole her babies identity from. http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?...a&skin_id=701&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=email
 
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Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:53 PMCease & Desist
From: David N. Hart <[email protected]>Add to Contacts
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]


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Please refrain from contacting Jeff or Christina Wise, you are acting like you’re their friend but it is far from being the truth. You have nothing to do with this at all, and will constitute harassment on your part, which is a crime.

Threatening them that they will lose their children is far from what a friend would do, besides the fact they have nothing to worry about on that aspect.....They are wonderful parents, and have nothing to fear.

You and everybody on that malicious site are condoning and authorizing and making fraudulent statements, by you assholes putting things in writing are only furthering the lawsuit that Jeff and Christina are gathering information on to sue you with.

Quit threatening them with Federal crime, Internet crimes, or that they are going to jail and any other further asinine statement that you can come up with.

It is no crime for a person running an auction to take a percentage of the profit for their benefit of running and maintaining and auction.....Have you ever heard of Sotheby's or Christie's you think they run their auctions for free. The only crime that was committed is you failed to find out what percentage they were taking.

If you feel that you have a civil suit please by all means sue them, but please be aware I have everything in writing by all of you to back up the defense of the civil suit.

All of you have contacted the Flint police department, and have been told the same thing, you need to file of civil suit.

FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened.

You have no idea the means that I will go to to protect Jeff & Christina and more so their children.

Please be aware that a restraining orders are in the process for each and everyone that site, especially Maggie, David, and now yourself. The theft of their reptiles that you guys tried to pull off is also on record. You guys are the ones who are doing all of the crimes.

If you do not cease and desist from harassment, stating malicious lies we will have no recourse then to sue each and everyone of you for defamation of character, harassment, stalking, unlawful gathering, unlawful threats against their lives, homeland security, unlawful claims about their children, each and every claim you people are making are all being documented, and have been told, many are a felony, and are prosecutable, these btw are not civil actions.

Please do not think that I do not know what is going on, I'm aware of everything. So do not think you need to enlighten me.

David N. Hart
 
That was my newest email from the Wise's. I love how he tries to "seem" professional, yet, uses profanity. At first, you might think it was an attorney but you can tell that its not.
 
I am also a CCW carrier and in the sense of the quoted text is enough to alert the County Clerks office they have made death threats on the community and you can say BYE BYE CCW for LIFE.

FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened.
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uh oh, now they're going to sue everybody. if they had that much, they'd own the electric company rather than owe them.
 
RichsBallPythons said:
I am also a CCW carrier and in the sense of the quoted text is enough to alert the County Clerks office they have made death threats on the community and you can say BYE BYE CCW for LIFE.
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He must think that the "make my day" law would protect him against unarmed people. Hell, is Michigan even a "make my day" law state?
 
Does Anyone have their so called landscaping name. My uncle owns landscaping and does some work in their area. Ill see if he knows of them and see if we cant get that taken away.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:53 PMCease & Desist
From: David N. Hart <[email protected]>Add to Contacts
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]


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Please refrain from contacting Jeff or Christina Wise, you are acting like you’re their friend but it is far from being the truth. You have nothing to do with this at all, and will constitute harassment on your part, which is a crime.

Threatening them that they will lose their children is far from what a friend would do, besides the fact they have nothing to worry about on that aspect.....They are wonderful parents, and have nothing to fear.

You and everybody on that malicious site are condoning and authorizing and making fraudulent statements, by you assholes putting things in writing are only furthering the lawsuit that Jeff and Christina are gathering information on to sue you with.

Quit threatening them with Federal crime, Internet crimes, or that they are going to jail and any other further asinine statement that you can come up with.

It is no crime for a person running an auction to take a percentage of the profit for their benefit of running and maintaining and auction.....Have you ever heard of Sotheby's or Christie's you think they run their auctions for free. The only crime that was committed is you failed to find out what percentage they were taking.

If you feel that you have a civil suit please by all means sue them, but please be aware I have everything in writing by all of you to back up the defense of the civil suit.

All of you have contacted the Flint police department, and have been told the same thing, you need to file of civil suit.

FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened.

You have no idea the means that I will go to to protect Jeff & Christina and more so their children.

Please be aware that a restraining orders are in the process for each and everyone that site, especially Maggie, David, and now yourself. The theft of their reptiles that you guys tried to pull off is also on record. You guys are the ones who are doing all of the crimes.

If you do not cease and desist from harassment, stating malicious lies we will have no recourse then to sue each and everyone of you for defamation of character, harassment, stalking, unlawful gathering, unlawful threats against their lives, homeland security, unlawful claims about their children, each and every claim you people are making are all being documented, and have been told, many are a felony, and are prosecutable, these btw are not civil actions.

Please do not think that I do not know what is going on, I'm aware of everything. So do not think you need to enlighten me.

David N. Hart
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What a joke. What brought that on? Have these losers ( Yes I said loser, I can take a defamation of character case ) convinced themselves of their own lies? I love these little punks that talk about having the training to use their 9mm. Yeah buddy keyboards are like a damn kevlar vest aren't they.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
He must think that the "make my day" law would protect him against unarmed people. Hell, is Michigan even a "make my day" law state?
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Maybe in his lil mind it might be.

i know in the state of Michigan we are a shall issue state as long as your record is clean for 7 years prior to applying for ccw. So if hes had any domestic type charges on him in last 7 years his CCW is a bogus front.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
That was my newest email from the Wise's. I love how he tries to "seem" professional, yet, uses profanity. At first, you might think it was an attorney but you can tell that its not.
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LOL-not a single bit of legalese, other than "Cease & Desist", then-"FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened."

WOW!!!!

Nice "lawyer"!!!
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:53 PMCease & Desist
From: David N. Hart Add to Contacts
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]


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It is no crime for a person running an auction to take a percentage of the profit for their benefit of running and maintaining and auction.....Have you ever heard of Sotheby's or Christie's you think they run their auctions for free. The only crime that was committed is you failed to find out what percentage they were taking.
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I'm no math whiz, but it looks like the Wise's allotted themselves an 82.7% "commission". I wonder if that is in line with Sotheby's & Christie's :rolleyes:
 
Strike_Force_Reptiles said:
now you have something to contact the police dept personally about. take a warrent out for communication a threat on all 3 of them.
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I have already spoken to my local law enforcement. I have great contacts with local law as well as postal inspectors. The postal training ctr for the country is 2 miles from my home. Because of the tornado that I just went through, I met a lot of nice Police officers as well as inspectors because they helped me clean up some of the damage.

I also already filed with IC3 so I am not concerned. Its just lower IQ trying to think their way out of this situation. They think its purely civil, when its not.
 
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