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Bad Guy Reptile Kingdom, Exquisite Exotics - Dawn Sheppard

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Note that I have no evidence for anything below, as it is 9 months since I stopped volunteering, my exit was quick, and the pet store closed 3 months ago. All of the following I had written down so that I could relate it on the classifieds at a later time once things cooled down.

I volunteered at (the now closed) Reptile Kingdom in Edmonton, Alberta for the owner Dawn Sheppard. Stay away from this person!

The following is my account of my experiences with Reptile Kingdom, and Dawn Sheppard. Take into consideration that I have Asperger's Syndrome. I have difficulty determining what is and what is not appropriate behavior. While I am still a nice, good natured, and generous person, it took a lot (3 months of abuse) for me to realize that something was wrong with Dawn and how she treated her volunteers, and the customers.

For about a year, she had the business but didn't manage it at all. She left it in the hands of some teenagers that she knew nothing about, and according to her, they ripped her off of 10,000 by cashing in checks or something. They also stole a laptop, and some of the more expensive animals before leaving on their last day at the store. When I eventually stopped volunteering, I wondered whether they stole this stuff, or if they took what they had earned but weren't being paid.

Fast forward a couple months, she was then running the store just by volunteers. I wanted experience with reptiles, preferably while being paid, but volunteering sounded better than nothing. I had 3 other part time jobs amounting to over 40 hours a week, but I still put in hundreds of hours at the store over the summer. I also donated hundreds of dollars of my own equipment while I was there, however, to my knowledge none of the volunteers or the staff were ever appreciated for their contributions.
Considering how much I had given her and the store, I would have expected her to be appreciative and provide me with a 10 gallon tank and a piece of driftwood, but she was unwilling to sell it these to me, even at retail prices.
It seems to me at that point (near the end of my 3 months volunteering) she was becoming emotionally unstable, and unreasonably spiteful.

On a related note, I bought a pair of panther chameleons from a local breeder, with my own money to breed them for the store. I was treating my own house as a breeding and holding facility for Dawn, and was investing money in animals at her suggestion, for her. At the time of the purchase, she had promised me two exoterra flexariums to house the Panther pair in. I bought them with the expectation that she would follow through. For 3 - 4 weeks I waited while my panther girl was losing weight because she was being submissive to the male panther and wasn't eating. Every day, I would ask Dawn if she had brought the flexariums she had promised, and every day, she had some excuse. I ultimately got fed up and took a zoomed screen cage that was store merchandise, paid for it at cost, and set up my panther girl in it. Dawn of course got upset that I had taken it, and I got upset back that she hadn't provided as promised. To illustrate why, I had taken the screen cage, I told her that the Panther girl wasn't eating. She responded with "Call your supplier", as if it were the supplier's fault. She does not take responsibility for anything. I kept the pressure on her to bring the other flexarium for the male, he was still in the store's crappy wooden and plexi enclosures which was connected to the UROMASTYX tank! Clearly he was being dehydrated, and stressed out from being in an inappropriate (not mesh) enclosure. I waited a further 2 weeks (a total of 5 weeks) for a flexarium for the male. A fellow volunteer lived at her house and got it for me in time for me to bring the male home so I wouldn't be stressing out about this during my wedding.
By this time, I had had such a bad experience, I sold the chameleons to a couple that had the appropriate set up, and I didn't give Dawn any of it. She had shown no concern for my animals. In my opinion, she had been negligent, and treated the animals inhumanely and did not deserve the proceeds from that sale. I eventually reinvested that money in my collection after I left the store.

I defended Dawn and Reptile Kingdom at my own expense, here on the BOI.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118536&highlight=Reptile+Kingdom

After reading my contribution, she became verbally abusive to me because I had given my honest opinion on the BOI that poor husbandry was still a significant issue while I was defending her, saying that things were improving.
I acknowledge that I have difficulty reading people and social situations due to my Asperger's Syndrome, but I have never seen anyone treat anyone else like she treated me. It is my opinion, that she was way out of line. She never apologized to me, and she never thanked me for defending her.

Near the end of my time at the store, there hadn't been an animal order, or dry goods order for at least 2 months. I was still getting requests for certain animals though. I started looking online for suppliers of those animals, and when I had told the other volunteers that I was wanting to use my own money to help the store make an order (the store was constantly almost declaring bankruptcy), Dawn responded through another volunteer that she felt I shouldn't order from her suppliers. She took this innovative and generous act as if I were wanting to steal her suppliers or something. I had intended to bring in the animals that were being requested, and sell them as someone from the store, not as a private person. I would have gotten my money back, and the store would have profited from a sale that wouldn't have required cash flow. It seems to me that Dawn was paranoid at this point.

One major issue that I have not yet related, is that Dawn confides every detail of her crises in her personal and business life as a strategy to get pity and free help and assistance from anyone and everyone. She related all the major issues in her life to all the volunteers, and many customers coming straight in off the street. I think that she was using this as a strategy to make people feel like they should support her and her store by making purchases and volunteering. To anyone working under her, this can get quite exhausting, because she has a lot wrong in her life.

I had also made an insect order for the store, but was never paid what the store owed me, approximately 40 dollars.

A teenager volunteer that knew comparatively nothing about reptiles was ordering me around about what needed to be done when I came in, meanwhile, she was always playing with the animals. She felt this was appropriate because that is essentially what Dawn was doing for a couple weeks: playing farmville on facebook and ordering the volunteers around.

As someone with Asperger's Syndrome, topics and chores that are of interest to me take up a significant amount of my time and thought. In any given hour, I probably spend about half an hour thinking about reptiles, husbandry, genetics, and vivarium construction. The other volunteers and Dawn didn't understand that, and were unwilling to accept my volunteering as husbandry correction and habitat construction. They wanted me to do all the mundane tasks such as dishwashing, and daily maintainence. I felt they should have been doing that instead of sitting around playing with animals and on facebook. I was dishwashing at 3 other jobs, why would I want to come across the city and volunteer to do more dishwashing? I felt that my volunteer contribution was unappreciated, that they were unwilling to accept my contribution, and me. "Reptile Kingdom doesn't need someone reaching for the stars" was one of the last things one of the volunteers had said to me the day before I stopped volunteering.

The day I left, I took almost all of the equipment that I had donated back.
I had intended the donation to be permanent, but by the end, I felt they, especially Dawn, did not deserve it, and the relationship had never been reciprocal. I now know that one of the traits of Asperger's syndrome is giving away property impulsively. I had donated:
a power bar, and extension cord, several lights and light fixtures, several tanks including 5, 10, 20, 40, 60 gallons, two of which were large custom tanks that I had been working on and off since high school, tools, hardware, a mini refrigerator, my hovabotor incubator, rubbermaid tubs, my own money, and space at my place of residence to be used as a breeding and holding facility. Most of that I took back when I left, except cash, hardware, and a few tanks.

I reluctantly returned the animals that I had been caring for, for Dawn.

The one good thing about this experience is that I learned a lot about the husbandry of a lot of reptiles because so many of the animals were being mistreated and neglected.
The following is a list of all the husbandry failures I can recall, in chronological order.

Male Meller's Chameleons (I think) were kept communally.

Compact fluorescent lights wired on the floor of the cage. Possibility that this could have burned or electrocuted the leopard geckos, as well as start a fire.
Leopard geckos kept on sand, with no humid hides of any kind, and no or limited supplementation.
Limited heat tape for leopard geckos kept communally.
Juvenile leopard gecko with eye infection was left untreated indefinitely. Dawn took the animal home, but we never heard of it again. I am under the impression it died in her care.

Tokay gecko kept in an arid enclosure.

Baby crested gecko kept in nonsecure container resulting in it getting loose, and ripping the skin off one of its back legs when it was caught under the garbage can.
Baby crested gecko fed exclusively mealworms, and heated to 90 F (it had been kept in the enclosure connected to the uromastyx tank) resulting in death.

Baby veiled chameleon was left overnight in a small exoterra faunarium with approximately 10 crickets and no material for the chameleon to climb on.
The next morning, the baby veiled had its tongue completely out of it's body, and the crickets were eating the tongue. It died shortly thereafter.

Ruta's, Fischer's, Panther, Veiled, Jackson's, and Senegal's chameleon kept in glass. The Rutas, fischer's females, jackson's and senegal's chameleons died. Dawn used the excuse that they were wild caught, but it is my opinion that they were in good health when they came into the store.

Flooded Senegal's and Fischer's chameleon's tanks.
Panther chams kept communally.

Baby Ball pythons kept in TINY 6 inch cubed plastic tupperware containers for weeks, without a functioning heat source.

Baby corn snakes were kept with insufficient heat, and in far too much humidity.

Dumerils monitors were kept, but I bet they were kept in non-optimal conditions. Dawn had the dream of contributing to the captive breeding of these, even though only a few people had been successful in captive breeding with them.

Lygodactylus williamsi died of too low humidity, someone had removed the water fountain, and daily misting provided insufficient humidity.

The remaining L. williamsi had calcium deficency symptoms. This was more my fault than anyone elses. No one else bothered to look up, or change anything with any of the geckos, they just left it to me because I was perceived as the expert. That proved to be a problem when I was in a bike accident and was immobilized for two weeks. The L. williamsi recovered, but I was only there for another few weeks after that so I don't know what happened to it.

Customer service catastrophes
See this thread.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121685&highlight=Reptile+Kingdom
By the end of the thread linked above, Taz is somewhat discredited, but given the experience I've had with Dawn and the Panther Chameleons, I can see how Taz could have gotten screwed over.

A Boa constrictor had mites, and one of the volunteers took out all the contaminated newspaper substrate and left it on the floor in the snake room.
A customer bought the boa after it had been treated by water baths (cheap ineffective approach if you ask me). The customer returned with the snake covered in mites, and the volunteer treated the customer as if it was their fault.
This same boa's head was caught in the open spot below the hinge of a door. If it hadn't been for me, that boa would have died right there by decapitation. One of the volunteers had been walking around with the snake while doing something, and wasn't paying attention to what the snake was doing.

At the end of my volunteering, I did three things to get the store closed. I don't deny it, this was revenge, but at the same time, it was in the best interest of the animals.

I reported the following Fire code violations to the Fire Marshal.
All the wiring for all the heat tape, and light fixtures was done by Dawn, not by a professional electrician. There were several places where there were live wires exposed. As mentioned while discussing poor husbandry, compact fluorescent lights were wired on the floor of the cages. Wooden doors and flammable paint was stacked up against the furnace.
Considering that the last pet store on Whyte ave burnt down, it is hard to believe how she would cut corners on the fire code.

Lease violations:
Dawn was breeding African Soft Fur rats for a while, and according to her lease, she should not have had live rodents on the property.

Quite a few reptiles had gotten loose. The rat snake that was found near the store was on the invoices according to one of the other volunteers, but Dawn lied to Neil Weldon and said it wasn't hers. Speaking of Neil Weldon, Dawn can't stand most of the ERAS executive, and blames them and Jim Dyke from J&J reptiles in some conspiracy against her. Back to the animals that have gotten loose. Baby crested gecko, tokay gecko, leopard gecko, lygodactylus williamsi, several snakes, especially corn snakes. I found a chunk of a snake one time. WTF? Where did the rest of it go?

I also reported many of the poor husbandry issues to the Edmonton Humane Society, and they told me that they were opening a file on the store.

I suppose someone could find evidence for much of this by finding the court records.

In my opinion and experience, Dawn Sheppard is not someone you want to work for, buy animals from, or otherwise depend on.
 
Very interesting we were never told about Aspergers Syndrome Adam. But just so people know what they are dealing with when they read any of your posts ( other than those based in pure fact, animal husbandry for example, and i dont mean your opinion on others practices) Here is a link and a quote from a site the deals specifically with this disorder

http://www.aspergers.com/aspcomor.htm

"Asperger's Disorder may not be the only psychological condition affecting a certain individual. In fact, it is frequently together with other problems such as:

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)
Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
Depression (Major Depressive Disorder or Adjustment Disorder with Depressed Mood)
Bipolar Disorder
Generalized Anxiety Disorder
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

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Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder presents with difficulty in focusing (inattention), hyperactivity and impulsiveness. Almost 60-70 % of children with Pervasive Developmental Disorders ( = PDD or Autistic Spectrum Disorders) have severe enough inattention, hyperactivity and impulsiveness to meet the diagnostic criteria for ADHD. Technically, if a child is diagnosed with any of the PDD diagnoses (Autistic Disorder, Asperger's Disorder, PDD-NOS or others), a separate ADHD diagnosis cannot be made. However, I believe that it is important to recognize the presence of co-existing ADHD since this syndrome can respond to medication treatment, unlike the core PDD symptoms. When ADHD co-exists with Asperger's Disorder, anger may easily turn to aggression because of the individual's impulsiveness. Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta, Metadate, Focalin), dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine, Adderall), atomoxetine (Strattera), bupropion (Wellbutrin) or tricyclic antidepressants (imipramine, nortriptyline and others) may be beneficial. Common complications of untreated ADHD are ODD (see below), depression (losing self esteem due to academic failure and repeated negative feedback and punishment from adults), increased likelihood of drug and alcohol use, breaking traffic rules more frequently and having more accidents, and eventually getting lower-paying jobs for not fulfilling true potential.


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Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)

ODD represents more of a relationship dynamic between a child and the authority figures around her or him, than a disease process itself. Symptoms include argumentativeness with adults, talking back, refusing to follow adults' requests or rules, losing temper, deliberately annoying others, not taking responsibility for one's own actions, and being touchy, angry and resentful all the time. This can happen only at home, or may start at home and may eventually spill over to the school. Most children with ADHD, if untreated, eventually develop ODD because of daily negative feedback and punishment from adults, as a consequence of their impulsive behaviors. It is important to note that depression, in children and adolescents, may present with similar symptoms, rather than the expected symptoms like looking sad and crying frequently. A Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist should be consulted to differentiate the two. There is no medication treatment for ODD. Individual psychotherapy and sometimes family therapy are the best treatment methods. If there is ADHD underlying ODD, it has to be treated with medication for psychotherapies to be effective.

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Now i have a step son with ODD and let me tell you its not fun, if i say the sky is blue, he will say it is orange just because, as well as violent tempers ( wich i do believe you showed several of your fellow volunteers yours, and an inability to make sense of simple common sense conversations, quite often not getting the true meaning behind verbal words. Anyone ever watch Mary and Max? its a lovely little clay mation movie, but illustrates Aspergers, very well through the Max Character.

Reptile Kingdom is Physicaly closed, not because of wrong doing on our part, quite the contrary it was due to a conflict with the landlord of the building. This will be resolved at some point one day.

I did not place dry goods orders for 2 months at a time often, i dont deny that but in the early days we had not had the client base to warant the expenditure of capital on stock that would just sit on shelves.

Someone should ask Adam if his then fiancee now wife, knew he had purchased his panther Chams at all at the time, as to be honest everyone involved with RK at the time knows he did not and actually hid them from her for months in the shop. He also did not come and tend them when he should have, we had to. As well also on that note, he did not tell me that he planned on getting them the day he did, and he left them in two tanks turned on end in the middle of the floor, when he did get them, because he did not have the equipment he needed to house them prior to the purchase. Adam also in the end sold the Female to someone, who had nothing but trouble taking care of her, tryed to contact Adam to sort it all out and ask for help, and then in the end came to me for help even though we did not sell the cham to them.

This forum is a great idea, its too bad people can peg all sorts of wrong doing about others here with no , and i do MEAN no proof. I however can prove, and have several witnesses to what i have put on here. And after today will not tend to answer this thread again.

Adam is a nice enough young man, he loves his reptiles and animals in general. But his disorder, which was not divulged to us at the time, makes perfect sense in retrospect to his behavior, and now his words here.

And Adam dont forget one simple thing that i tried to teach you when you were posting un supported threads in the past about others you did not like, There is a fine line between slander and an opinion, and even opinions can get you in trouble, your disorder does not protect you from the law...................do you understand this?

The past long time president of the Edmonton Reptile Society, Lynn was and to this day is still a supporter of Reptile Kingdom, and trust me Lynn knows how i did business, with whom and what my ethics are. I would suggest that anyone wanting to know the real story of reptile kingdom ask those that would truly know.......not those that have trouble with their understanding of the physical worlds and the inner workings of relationships in general, wether they be personal or business.........that makes sense doesnt it?

Adams words here only lend to cheapen the efforts of not only himself but the other people that helped me keep going when all sorts of things got in our way..And the theft he mentions as supposed is on file with the Edmonton Police, yep must be something fishy there huh?

Dawn
PS: i realize i cant spell, i realize there are errors in grammar etc here, i also have a disorder, but i take full responsiblity for mine, and have never tried to hide it.
 
Very interesting we were never told about Aspergers Syndrome Adam.
Yeah, I only found out about it two months ago.
I do have issues with the following. Bolded are traits that I consider significantly exhibited by myself.

Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) I'm never Hyper, so ADHD doesn't apply.
Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
Depression (Major Depressive Disorder or Adjustment Disorder with Depressed Mood)
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder


Attention Deficit Disorder presents with difficulty in focusing (inattention), and impulsiveness

depression (losing self esteem due to social failure and repeated negative feedback and punishment from adults)

Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
ODD represents more of a relationship dynamic between a child and the authority figures around her or him, than a disease process itself. Symptoms include argumentativeness with adults, talking back, refusing to follow adults' requests or rules, losing temper, deliberately annoying others, not taking responsibility for one's own actions, and being touchy, angry and resentful all the time. This can happen only at home, or may start at home and may eventually spill over to the school. Most children with ADD, if untreated, eventually develop ODD because of daily negative feedback and punishment from adults, as a consequence of their impulsive behaviors. I've never been treated, and do exhibit most traits of ODD.

Now i have a step son with ODD and let me tell you its not fun, if i say the sky is blue, he will say it is orange just because, as well as violent tempers ( wich i do believe you showed several of your fellow volunteers yours
When was I ever violent? I remember I was frustrated, and upset on several occasions, but I don't remember ever being violent. Could you site some examples, for my own piece of mind?

Reptile Kingdom is Physicaly closed, not because of wrong doing on our part, quite the contrary it was due to a conflict with the landlord of the building. This will be resolved at some point one day.
What is the conflict with the landlord? I was under the impression it would have been lease and fire code violations, which it would seem, would be wrong doing on your part, because you own the lease, and you did all the wiring as an amateur electrician.

Someone should ask Adam if his then fiancee now wife, knew he had purchased his panther Chams at all at the time, as to be honest everyone involved with RK at the time knows he did not and actually hid them from her for months in the shop.
My wife and I were wanting to take them home but you made us wait for 5 weeks for the flexariums you promised.

He also did not come and tend them when he should have, we had to.
I was working 3 other part time jobs. I was volunteering for you, and you suggested I get them for breeding purposes.

Adam also in the end sold the Female to someone, who had nothing but trouble taking care of her, tryed to contact Adam to sort it all out and ask for help, and then in the end came to me for help even though we did not sell the cham to them.
That is an outright lie. I had regular contact with them after the purchase, and they animals and the owners were both doing great. I actually sold the female first, and a couple weeks later sold the male to them as well. They had been so happy with the first purchase and my assistance that they came back to me to buy my other chameleon.

This forum is a great idea, its too bad people can peg all sorts of wrong doing about others here with no , and i do MEAN no proof. I however can prove, and have several witnesses to what i have put on here. And after today will not tend to answer this thread again.

But his disorder, which was not divulged to us at the time, makes perfect sense in retrospect to his behavior, and now his words here.
You have not disputed your behavior I've listed, and have not acknowledged your failures in husbandry, and you've implied that my Aspergers is the cause of this thread, it seems to me that you have not taken any responsibility for anything that happened. Furthermore, you attack me for my lack of good judgement in trusting you to bring in the flexariums as you promised.
This argument seems to be Ad hominem or a personal attack.

PS: i realize i cant spell, i realize there are errors in grammar etc here, i also have a disorder, but i take full responsiblity for mine, and have never tried to hide it.
I never tried to hide it, I wasn't aware of it at the time. I only found out about it in the last two months.
 
You hid the purchase from your wife until it was too late, the animals were already purchased. You said at the time, that she had said you had too many animals already and could not afford more in her opinion, but you really wanted them.

You asked me what kind of chameleons i would suggest you breed if you were to do so, i suggested Panthers.

The people came back to me months later in tears ( and there are witnesses to it) that they were never told proper husbandry from you and the female had some kind of eye impedment, that they could not afford a vet to fix.

Your behaviour was so poor towards Tamara that there was a staff meeting held with all volunteers ( 4 at the time, without you present, where they all complained about your attitude, saying they did not want you in the shop, ) there was then a meeting with all of us with you present , where they voiced their angst.

as far as husbandry on my part, i have NEVER claimed to be an expert, i changed things when suggestions were made, and in some cases if i did not it was only because ( in your case) you would say you wanted to be the one to do it.

My troubles with the landlord, are due to black mold being found in the building and methane gasses ( guess you should not have assumed anything Adam you know what the explanation of an assumption is dont you?)

Adam you are a nice enough boy, and i will give you you love your animals dearly, but if your going to sling mud, make sure you are accurate would you? I have not as of yet slung any at you.........now have i?

As for the Flexes, sinse i had no idea that you were getting them when you did, and had made the recomendation that you wait until i found the flexteriums, as there were somewhere in my basement, yes it took 5 weeks to find them, not my first priority, i did not buy them, i did not promiss i could find them in a hurry, and they did live in my tanks at RK until i did.
 
You hid the purchase from your wife until it was too late, the animals were already purchased. You said at the time, that she had said you had too many animals already and could not afford more in her opinion, but you really wanted them.

I didn't have to reveal Aspergers but I did. I told my wife about the chameleons the day after the purchase, I was waiting for the flexariums not hiding them from my wife. I did say the above to you, and it was true. I did hide the initial purchase from my wife, for a day, but then came clean. I didn't hide it for months as you say.

You asked me what kind of chameleons i would suggest you breed if you were to do so, i suggested Panthers.
You suggested Ambilobe Panthers. Which is what I got.

The people came back to me months later in tears ( and there are witnesses to it) that they were never told proper husbandry from you and the female had some kind of eye impedment, that they could not afford a vet to fix.
That is bull. I know I told them husbandry for Panther chameleons, I wrote down websites for them to look up additional information, including edmontonreptiles.com and I gave them the contact information of the breeder in St. Albert.

Your behaviour was so poor towards Tamara that there was a staff meeting held with all volunteers ( 4 at the time, without you present, where they all complained about your attitude, saying they did not want you in the shop, ) there was then a meeting with all of us with you present , where they voiced their angst.
THERE WAS NO VIOLENCE THEN? You have exaggerated my behavior to sound as if I am a dangerous person.

Adam you are a nice enough boy, and i will give you you love your animals dearly, but if your going to sling mud, make sure you are accurate would you? I have not as of yet slung any at you.........now have i?
BULLSH!T. You called me violent, when there was absolutely no instance of violence. Arrogance, and verbal expression of frustration doesn't count as violence I think. It's not like I was being abusive, I never attacked anyone the way you attacked me after I defended you on the thread I linked in the original post of this thread.

as far as husbandry on my part, i have NEVER claimed to be an expert, i changed things when suggestions were made, and in some cases if i did not it was only because ( in your case) you would say you wanted to be the one to do it.
I refer anyone reading back to my initial thread about all the chameleons that died, as well as geckos, and snakes.

As for the Flexes, sinse i had no idea that you were getting them when you did, and had made the recomendation that you wait until i found the flexteriums, as there were somewhere in my basement, yes it took 5 weeks to find them, not my first priority, i did not buy them, i did not promiss i could find them in a hurry, and they did live in my tanks at RK until i did.
I suppose you did allow them to live at RK until you did, but seeing as I was helping you keep the other animals alive, and the tanks were empty, it would have been a very abrupt ending if I had purchased them at your suggestion and you didn't reciprocally help me as you had promised.

I was under the impression you knew when I was purchasing them.

As I had mentioned to you on a previous occasion, if your animals needed anything, I would have made the trip across the city on foot, and bring my own equipment or use my own money to make the purchase to provide for your animals on a moments notice. I feel this relationship was never reciprocal.
 
I suppose you did allow them to live at RK until you did, but seeing as I was helping you keep the other animals alive, and the tanks were empty, it would have been a very abrupt ending if I had purchased them at your suggestion and you didn't reciprocally help me as you had promised.

I was under the impression you knew when I was purchasing them.

As I had mentioned to you on a previous occasion, if your animals needed anything, I would have made the trip across the city on foot, and bring my own equipment or use my own money to make the purchase to provide for your animals on a moments notice. I feel this relationship was never reciprocal.
Allowing me to keep the chameleons at the store seemed more like keeping me hostage than you being kind and generous. My wife and I both wanted to take them home after the first day, and we were both stressing out about for those 5 weeks.
 
Everyone privy to the intended purchase of the Chameleons, was shocked to see them in the shop when they were there the next day . You did not even place a call to my cellular saying you had them there, THESE are the facts:
You hid the purchase from you wife until it was too late and the animals were already there
You did not prepare for them prior to the purchase, and from what we found not well the night you brought them to the shop
You were told " now" is bad timing Adam to have me look for the flexes it will take me some time
Eric ulitmatley found them and i brought them to the shop

Eric as well as Tamara had phone calls and Eric did see in person the people who were so upset about purchasing them, who by the way had thought that i had sold them to them

The other volunteers were so upset with your behaviour they wanted to chase you from the shop

WE CAN SUPPORT ALL OF THIS WITH OUR DESK JOURNALS, not written by me but by the staff...................nuff said
 
Thinking and knowing are two diffrent things, arent they? as well what do fire codes have to do with the overal opinions mentioned here?

The only thing in the physical premis that did not ( and most likely to this day , does not meat fire code) is the fire dampers in the duct work, now that would be the landlord wouldnt it? or am i responcible for that too?
 
Everyone privy to the intended purchase of the Chameleons, was shocked to see them in the shop when they were there the next day . You did not even place a call to my cellular saying you had them there, THESE are the facts:
You hid the purchase from you wife until it was too late and the animals were already there
You did not prepare for them prior to the purchase, and from what we found not well the night you brought them to the shop
That I acknowledge. They were an impulsive purchase. I should not have expected you to bring the flexariums the next day.

You were told " now" is bad timing Adam to have me look for the flexes it will take me some time
I don't remember this. I remember you using a thousand different excuses every day, and then coming to the store to play farmville on facebook.

Eric as well as Tamara had phone calls and Eric did see in person the people who were so upset about purchasing them, who by the way had thought that i had sold them to them
Can you prove that these are the same customers I sold my chameleons to?
If these are the same customers, I left the store and they were contacting me through the store, not my personal communication, so that would be why they had difficulty contacting me.
In any case, I gave them good husbandry advice, and I pointed them towards the additional resources, and I followed up with a call to ask how things were going two weeks after the sale.

The other volunteers were so upset with your behaviour they wanted to chase you from the shop
Only Eric could have a conversation and take criticism. Tamara, Nodja, and you can't tolerate any suggestion that you are wrong.
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Thinking and knowing are two diffrent things, arent they? as well what do fire codes have to do with the overal opinions mentioned here?

The only thing in the physical premis that did not ( and most likely to this day , does not meat fire code) is the fire dampers in the duct work, now that would be the landlord wouldnt it? or am i responcible for that too?

You haven't publicly denied that you cut dangerous corners in setting up and maintaining your facility. That should matter to anyone supporting the business, and it should matter to the community that you were in and the other people and businesses in the building.
 
Oh all of us can and do openly accept fault when it is ours.......As you are proving by everything you write here, not all is as it was understood to be at the begining of this thread. I only trust others will see this and understand now that it is not your fault entirely that you accuse prior to thinking, this is part of your disorder.

ps: you mention Eric, in a positive note, you have no idea how upset he was when that poor young man started crying as he relayed the story of the chameleons to us, you admit you communicated from the shop for this transaction, and followed up 2 weeks later, did it never Dawn on you that a transaction that had nothing to do with RK be followed up with your personal contact info, so that your own PERSONAL clients could contact you directly , And when you did leave the shop for good, did it not dawn on you that perhaps you should call them and offer at least your personal email to contact you regarding them?
 
Oh all of us can and do openly accept fault when it is ours.......As you are proving by everything you write here, not all is as it was understood to be at the begining of this thread. I only trust others will see this and understand now that it is not your fault entirely that you accuse prior to thinking, this is part of your disorder.

ps: you mention Eric, in a positive note, you have no idea how upset he was when that poor young man started crying as he relayed the story of the chameleons to us, you admit you communicated from the shop for this transaction, and followed up 2 weeks later, did it never Dawn on you that a transaction that had nothing to do with RK be followed up with your personal contact info, so that your own PERSONAL clients could contact you directly , And when you did leave the shop for good, did it not dawn on you that perhaps you should call them and offer at least your personal email to contact you regarding them?

I had given them my username on edmontonreptiles.com. I would think that would be enough. It is not my fault if they can't look up resources that I had given them, or that they couldn't contact me over the forums.
 
So in closing:

Dawn does not deny intentionally cutting dangerous corners and knowingly committing Fire code violations.

Dawn has not denied or acknowledged customer service catastrophes on the part of Dawn and the other volunteers.

Dawn has barely commented on her poor husbandry of snakes, geckos, and chameleons.

Dawn has only tried to discredit me by attacking my trait of Asperger's Syndrome that is exhibited to such a degree that no one (including myself) knew until I was 23.

As well, she continues to attack my impulsive purchase that I hid from my wife, and plays down the fact that I had been counting on her to provide flexariums that she had promised.

In closing, I don't think anyone should trust this person in business, with animals, or with safety.
 
I have not attacked anyone, at all for anything here Adam, simply illustrated that there is more to every story than one side. You are the one who menitoned your disorder, not me, i jsut simply clarified what that ment. I have not shunned my responciblilty in any of this at all and offer a VERY Credible witness to the inner workings of RK. Yes i discuss your purchase of the chams, in detail, this is simply to illustrate, that you are the pot calling the kettle black, as far as " good" judgement, and impecable husbandry skills. I also mention the sale of the chams ( by you not me) and the lack of support you gave your own clients, as you have admited all communications was via reptile kingdom ( from you) and only for 2 weeks, again pot calling the kettle black, as it would seem your customer service skills are amiss themselves..............
 
I have not attacked anyone, at all for anything here Adam, simply illustrated that there is more to every story than one side. You are the one who menitoned your disorder, not me, i jsut simply clarified what that ment. I have not shunned my responciblilty in any of this at all and offer a VERY Credible witness to the inner workings of RK. Yes i discuss your purchase of the chams, in detail, this is simply to illustrate, that you are the pot calling the kettle black, as far as " good" judgement, and impecable husbandry skills. I also mention the sale of the chams ( by you not me) and the lack of support you gave your own clients, as you have admited all communications was via reptile kingdom ( from you) and only for 2 weeks, again pot calling the kettle black, as it would seem your customer service skills are amiss themselves..............

I have not attacked anyone, at all for anything here Adam, simply illustrated that there is more to every story than one side.
You called me violent, but I have not been violent. You were making me out to be a dangerous person. Furthermore, you were verbally and emotionally abusive after I defended you on the thread linked in the original post. You have not denied this until now. You are inconsistent.

I also mention the sale of the chams ( by you not me) and the lack of support you gave your own clients, as you have admited all communications was via reptile kingdom ( from you) and only for 2 weeks, again pot calling the kettle black, as it would seem your customer service skills are amiss themselves..............
I gave them additional online resources, I did give them my username on the edmontonreptiles.com forum, I followed up with a call after 2 weeks, which I don't recall you ever doing, and they came and bought the male from me several weeks after that. They were very pleased with me. Personally, I don't think that we are talking about the same customer.
I remember now! They did have my home phone number. They had contacted me at home to purchase the male, they didn't contact me via the shop.
If you want me to prove it, I can get out our phone bills, I think I should be able to pick out a Beaumont phone number, scan the sheet and show you.
 
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