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Good Guy ALLIN1, shelby perkins, S&J Reptiles

Ryan...no one is bashing Shelby because of her spelling or grammar....it is because of her own actions. If you have no wish to go and SEE what James is talking about, then that is your perogative. Keep your blinders on if you wish.

All James did was come over to this thread (oh so conveniently started when it was) to remind Shelby she has serious questions to answer on a thread that SHE started. The only reason it's gotten turned into a thrashing match is because YOU have made it so. If you hadn't gotten so hot and snarky with James, he would have simply made his post and gone away and Shelby's "good guy" thread would have remained perfectly quiet. :rolleyes: You're the one turning it into a shouting match.

My perogative exactly. I dont need someone telling me what to do. That deal was between those two. Nothing to do with me. If something went sour there thats on them. This thread was started because of a good deal between us and that deal only. And then you write "(oh so conveniently started when it was)" and not expect me to feel like my integrity is question is nonsense and plain igorant on both your parts. I dont know how easily you guys can judge someone on here and question them when you dont know them or the buisness they have done. Its pathedic. I dont need someone who thinks they are better than someone else and thinks they know all to question me. And I wont sit here while you do it. Next
 
Wow i go to the beach for the and people think im hiding well in all honesty i dont see how im in the wrong i gave a liar a hell of a deal a 1.3 proven leo breeding group and 2 virgins and he gives me 6 wc subadult box turtles in very bad health>I thought the way this man (brian klein) was talking in his add (the first add that he deleted and when posts for all to see isnt the add im talking about)That he lost his job and needed money so he was selling his 5.5 breeding group of box well turns out it was a lie i got ripped off royally>No i dont have a permit for what!!!!!!! I dont go out and collect turtles and sell them i payed cash for my leos i traded and i got ripped every aspect about the trade of what i was supposed to get from him was a lie!!!!FYI i didnt waqnt any WC turtles and i didnt want to even be in possession of any so NOW they are FREE back in the wild were they belong!!!!!!!!!!! Also im not a bad guy i have many many good guy threads about me its this guy brian klein he is totally wrong is a complete LIAR.To all who dont like the thread i started so be it i started ot so anyone thinking of doing bussiness with him knows the truth.Im not the bad guy even if you think i am.
 
Wow i go to the beach for the and people think im hiding well in all honesty i dont see how im in the wrong i gave a liar a hell of a deal a 1.3 proven leo breeding group and 2 virgins and he gives me 6 wc subadult box turtles in very bad health>I thought the way this man (brian klein) was talking in his add (the first add that he deleted and when posts for all to see isnt the add im talking about)That he lost his job and needed money so he was selling his 5.5 breeding group of box well turns out it was a lie i got ripped off royally>No i dont have a permit for what!!!!!!! I dont go out and collect turtles and sell them i payed cash for my leos i traded and i got ripped every aspect about the trade of what i was supposed to get from him was a lie!!!!FYI i didnt waqnt any WC turtles and i didnt want to even be in possession of any so NOW they are FREE back in the wild were they belong!!!!!!!!!!! Also im not a bad guy i have many many good guy threads about me its this guy brian klein he is totally wrong is a complete LIAR.To all who dont like the thread i started so be it i started ot so anyone thinking of doing bussiness with him knows the truth.Im not the bad guy even if you think i am.


WHAT!! So u had turtles from SC and let them go in NJ ?
 
And you haven't offered up a single shred of proof to back up your claims that the turtles were mis-sexed and younger than represented. If you think you can start a bad guy thread based on nothing but childish shouts of "It's not fair" and then walk away without any repercussions.... :NoNo:

And you let them go in the wild??? In a different state??? Are you freakin' kidding me????
 
And you haven't offered up a single shred of proof to back up your claims that the turtles were mis-sexed and younger than represented and in poor health. If you think you can start a bad guy thread based on nothing but childish shouts of "It's not fair" and then walk away without any repercussions.... :NoNo:

And you let them go in the wild??? In a different state??? Are you freakin' kidding me????

(left out part of my questions)
 
I thought the way this man (brian klein) was talking in his add (the first add that he deleted and when posts for all to see isnt the add im talking about)That he lost his job and needed money so he was selling his 5.5 breeding group of box
Can a MOD please see if there is an truth is this claim and post a link to a supposedly older ad for the same turtles.

Also can you please answer some of the questions that have been ask or your silence is going to speak for it self .
 
Shelby, since you haven't answered any of the important questions asked of you (even from a moderator!), I seriously doubt that you'll answer mine, either. You might want to find out for yourself though... What's the penalty for freeing those turtles from SC in NJ? The same turtles that you were supposed to acquire a permit for, BEFORE you took possession of the animals??? The ones that you've admitted to "freeing back into the wild", in this thread??
 
I don't know when I've been more disturbed by a couple of threads. On one hand you have a guy collecting adult box turtles from the wild and on the other you've got some of those turtles being released 5 states away.

What a mess. Doesn't look good for us herpers.

Just curious, Shelby, were the red-bellies were wild caught?
 
Sorry about the extra "were".

I also wanted to mention to Shelby that the permit is not for just "wild-caught" turtles. You need a permit to possess box turtles in your State. Evidently you need one to possess red-bellies also, if I am reading what Garweft posted in the other thread correctly.
 
Wow i go to the beach for the and people think im hiding well in all honesty i dont see how im in the wrong i gave a liar a hell of a deal a 1.3 proven leo breeding group and 2 virgins and he gives me 6 wc subadult box turtles in very bad health>I thought the way this man (brian klein) was talking in his add (the first add that he deleted and when posts for all to see isnt the add im talking about)That he lost his job and needed money so he was selling his 5.5 breeding group of box well turns out it was a lie i got ripped off royally>No i dont have a permit for what!!!!!!! I dont go out and collect turtles and sell them i payed cash for my leos i traded and i got ripped every aspect about the trade of what i was supposed to get from him was a lie!!!!FYI i didnt waqnt any WC turtles and i didnt want to even be in possession of any so NOW they are FREE back in the wild were they belong!!!!!!!!!!! Also im not a bad guy i have many many good guy threads about me its this guy brian klein he is totally wrong is a complete LIAR.To all who dont like the thread i started so be it i started ot so anyone thinking of doing bussiness with him knows the truth.Im not the bad guy even if you think i am.

This type of stupidity is what has hurt not only our great nation, but the hobby that most of us love and truely care about.

You are a bad guy now, you released wild caught turtles from s.c back into the wild in nj. they arent native in your state. hence "eastern box turtles"
 
Sorry about the extra "were".

I also wanted to mention to Shelby that the permit is not for just "wild-caught" turtles. You need a permit to possess box turtles in your State. Evidently you need one to possess red-bellies also, if I am reading what Garweft posted in the other thread correctly.

I believe Matts information was for Brian in SC. Not Shelby in NJ
 
Wow I cant believe she released them..She probably did that so she didnt get busted without a permit..I cant believe what people do somtimes..
 
Wow all of you fucking retarts Especially you iraqvet your a little bithch you all need to get a life LOSERS.I did nothing wrong and you all want to nit pick at me you can all go fuck yourselves up eachothers ass you fucking fags.I make a bad guy post about the real bad guy brian klein and you make it out to look like im an asshole well just like my brother did im done with fauna i hope i get banned i really do this site sucks balls big fat hairy ones and all that posted in this thgread are fucking scumbags i hope you all go to hell and eat a dick you all need to get a fucking life you act like you care about reptiles but its a lie its all about money for all of you that man is totally wrong for stealing turtles from the wild and selling them i have never sold a wc animal in my life and i will.Good day good nite eat a dick and enjoy it all you fucking PUSSIES.FYI i could care less about this site its a fucking joke.


FAUNA CLASSIFIEDS CAN SUCK MY CLIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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