xPantherx
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I had appended this information to the "Good Guy" thread I naively posted about him, but I think it deserves it's own thread now.
I will try to include all necessary details, but please let me know if there is further information that you would like.
After some emailing back and forth, Matt and I sent up a trade for a red proven female mainland chahoua that I had listed on Kingsnake for a sexed pair of younger mainlands. We both shipped out on 7/28/11, as weather was the most favorable for both of us.
I received the chahoua pair from Matt on 7/29/11. They were shipped to a local pet store so my sister who works there could sign for them. I work at a large biotech company, and receiving the package here would be difficult due to the volume of shipments we send and receive on any given day. Recently I have been extremely busy with student loan paperwork and managing to acquire an apartment for this upcoming semester. I put both animals in their cages once I picked them up after work. One had a pretty noticeable underbite, which I didn't remember seeing in the photos he sent me, but took it as my mistake.
In terms of the actual shipping, it went smoothly, except Matt had some trouble finding the tracking number for the pair, and missed FedEx when they delivered the female I sent him. I called them, and they said they would attempt delivering again. He said he had to go pick her up shortly after, I'm not exactly sure what happened, but to my understanding he got her.
Two weeks ago I found out that my student loan wouldn’t get disbursed until mid to late September, but I am required to pay my new off-campus landlord by Sept. 1st. In a desperate attempt to come up with finances to pay out-of-pocket, I listed to pair for sale for an equivalent amount of money to what I had listed the red female. If I hadn't been presented with such circumstances, I would not have listed the pair.
*I will leave out names in this section, so as to protect the third party's privacy*
The "female" was sold, and I shipped her. Arrival was fine, however, the buyer louped "her" upon receipt, and found her to be male. It was my mistake for not double checking the sex on them, so I reimbursed him in full, and paid for shipping both ways. After the gecko returned to me, I sexed it with a loupe, and it is in fact a male.
I was at fault for listing the pair in a desperate attempt to come up with money for housing, however I have since come up with the finances needed for the apartment, as I was able to work out a small early student loan disbursement. That personal issue is unimportant regarding my frustration over this, and it really lies within the ethical handling of this whole situation. Two male geckos were not what I expected in the trade, and the worth of two young males is significantly lower than the female I had listed. I have contacted Matt several times in the past ten days, and have not heard anything back. I have family in Rochester (where he is), and even offered to schedule a time to meet with him locally to avoid return shipping costs. I would like some sort of response from him addressing this, but he has failed to come through, which is disappointing.
Included below are my emails back and forth with Matt (from most recent to oldest), as well as photos – none of the female I sent just to keep it cleaner. I deleted my signature out and reformatted the messages for easier legibility since Yahoo Mail doesn’t really provide a reader-friendly copy and paste format.
I will try to include all necessary details, but please let me know if there is further information that you would like.
After some emailing back and forth, Matt and I sent up a trade for a red proven female mainland chahoua that I had listed on Kingsnake for a sexed pair of younger mainlands. We both shipped out on 7/28/11, as weather was the most favorable for both of us.
I received the chahoua pair from Matt on 7/29/11. They were shipped to a local pet store so my sister who works there could sign for them. I work at a large biotech company, and receiving the package here would be difficult due to the volume of shipments we send and receive on any given day. Recently I have been extremely busy with student loan paperwork and managing to acquire an apartment for this upcoming semester. I put both animals in their cages once I picked them up after work. One had a pretty noticeable underbite, which I didn't remember seeing in the photos he sent me, but took it as my mistake.
In terms of the actual shipping, it went smoothly, except Matt had some trouble finding the tracking number for the pair, and missed FedEx when they delivered the female I sent him. I called them, and they said they would attempt delivering again. He said he had to go pick her up shortly after, I'm not exactly sure what happened, but to my understanding he got her.
Two weeks ago I found out that my student loan wouldn’t get disbursed until mid to late September, but I am required to pay my new off-campus landlord by Sept. 1st. In a desperate attempt to come up with finances to pay out-of-pocket, I listed to pair for sale for an equivalent amount of money to what I had listed the red female. If I hadn't been presented with such circumstances, I would not have listed the pair.
*I will leave out names in this section, so as to protect the third party's privacy*
The "female" was sold, and I shipped her. Arrival was fine, however, the buyer louped "her" upon receipt, and found her to be male. It was my mistake for not double checking the sex on them, so I reimbursed him in full, and paid for shipping both ways. After the gecko returned to me, I sexed it with a loupe, and it is in fact a male.
I was at fault for listing the pair in a desperate attempt to come up with money for housing, however I have since come up with the finances needed for the apartment, as I was able to work out a small early student loan disbursement. That personal issue is unimportant regarding my frustration over this, and it really lies within the ethical handling of this whole situation. Two male geckos were not what I expected in the trade, and the worth of two young males is significantly lower than the female I had listed. I have contacted Matt several times in the past ten days, and have not heard anything back. I have family in Rochester (where he is), and even offered to schedule a time to meet with him locally to avoid return shipping costs. I would like some sort of response from him addressing this, but he has failed to come through, which is disappointing.
Included below are my emails back and forth with Matt (from most recent to oldest), as well as photos – none of the female I sent just to keep it cleaner. I deleted my signature out and reformatted the messages for easier legibility since Yahoo Mail doesn’t really provide a reader-friendly copy and paste format.
