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Old 03-30-2008, 09:11 PM   #1
SPJ
Look Out - Ridiculous Burm Article

This one is way over the top.
His poor attempt at humor is going to do nothing but fuel the fire against keeping constrictors.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...032501905.html

Quote:
Global Warming: Boo, Hiss
Now for some biting humor
By Gene Weingarten
Sunday, March 30, 2008; Page W43

THE LIBERAL MEDIA is often accused of exaggerating the effects of global warning in order to advance our own selfish, narrow-minded agenda of limiting the growth of big business, restricting free enterprise, saving the planet, etc.

And yet, we journalists have a duty to the truth. And so it is at the risk of being unfairly attacked once again that I feel I must call your attention to a recent news story in USA Today. I'm quoting it verbatim:

"As climate change warms the nation, giant Burmese pythons could colonize one-third of the USA, from San Francisco across the Southwest, Texas and the South and up north along the Virginia coast, according to U.S. Geological Survey maps released Wednesday. The pythons can be 20 feet long and 250 pounds. They are highly adaptable to new environments."

The article didn't actually say it, but I am guessing that another term for "new environments" are "our sewers."

So, let us try to calmly reevaluate, in a bipartisan fashion, the threat of global warming in light of this new scientific information. On the one hand, if the liberal-environmentalist cabal is wrong about this global ecological issue, then our society might unnecessarily spend money to control the release of greenhouse gases and other environmental pollutants. On the other hand, if it is right about this issue, 250-pound snakes will be popping out of our toilets and eating our buttocks (emphasis mine).

Now, I know what all you environmental conservatives are thinking. You are thinking that I am being alarmist. So, in an effort to take a fair and balanced view of this subject, I did some research on Burmese pythons. It turns out that there is quite another side to this story, thank you very much. As it happens, Burmese python skin makes highly prized leather. The quality of American watchbands might improve dramatically.

That was all I could find. But, to be as thorough as possible, I telephoned Gordon Rodda, a zoologist at the Fort Collins Science Center in Colorado. Gordon is not only an expert in invasive reptiles, specifically snakes, but was the lead scientist on the Burmese python study.

Me: For the benefit of environmental conservatives, can you tell us the upside of the inevitable Burmese python invasion of North America?

Gordon: The upside?

Me: Yes, please make some lemonade. For example, will these snakes actually eat people?

Gordon: Almost never. There is only one reported case in China, and I'm not sure it's reliable.

Me: Excellent! So we don't have to worry about them biting our butts.

Gordon: Oh, they'll definitely bite your butt. Then they'll very quickly throw coils around your body and squeeze.

Me: You mean, playfully?

Gordon: No, they squeeze so hard your heart and aorta can't pump against it, and all your blood stops flowing, and you die instantly.

Me: But you said . . .

Gordon: I said they won't eat you. They will kill you. Burmese pythons are responsible for more human deaths than any other nonvenomous large constrictor on Earth. That we know of.

Me: Oh.

Gordon: You know, I project that they're going to like some indigenous North American pest mammals as dietary items. For example, I predict they'll eat nutria, which are a nuisance to water management programs.

Me: Now we're cookin' with gas!

Gordon: Yes, that could beneficial.

Me: So, how do the snakes know the difference between nutria and, say, a dog or a cat?

Gordon: They don't.

Me: Oh.

Gordon: As predators, Burmese pythons are a lot like alligators. Most human deaths by alligator happen to people who are trying to save their dogs. We get anxious about our pets.

Me: So you're saying . . .

Gordon: I'm saying that if your dog is getting wrapped by a python, it's not good to intervene.

Me: I'm not tasting much lemonade, Gordon. I want to be fair here. Conservatives need a silver lining.

Gordon: Well, maybe it'll be good for strippers.

Me: What?

Gordon: Strippers like to perform with Burmese pythons. It's their snake of choice.

Me: That's hot.

Gordon: Appropriately enough.

Gene Weingarten can be reached at weingarten@washpost.com.
 
Old 03-30-2008, 09:30 PM   #2
Junkyard
That is freaking hilarious!! I am going to go populate Death Valley here in Southern California with Burmese pythons, according to the article the climate is just right for them
 
Old 03-31-2008, 12:15 AM   #3
BryonsBoas
Don't forget the guy in Cali that thinks they will breed with the western diamondbacks to increase their chances at survivability.
 
Old 05-13-2008, 06:29 AM   #4
wcreptiles
Giant Pythons Could Spread Quickly Across South

Another article about the Burmese 'invasion'.
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Giant Pythons Could Spread Quickly Across South
Monday , May 12, 2008

By Katherine Tweed


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As if killer bees and kudzu weren't enough, the southern United States may soon have another invasive species to contend with — giant Burmese pythons capable of swallowing deer and alligators whole.

Approximately 30,000 of the big snakes, which can reach 30 feet and 200 pounds, already live wild in Florida's Everglades, thanks to thick-headed pet owners who've released them into the swamps when they've grown too large to keep at home.

But now the U.S. Geological Survey says Florida is not the only place the Burmese python can thrive.

In fact, the big beasts, which are not poisonous and rarely attack humans, could live happily in the entire southern third of the country, from Southern California to Texas and the Lower Mississippi Valley and up the Eastern Seaboard to Chesapeake Bay.

All it would take would be enough pet releases in various locations to create a breeding population.

• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Natural Science Center.

A few years ago, captains Al Cruz and Ernie Jillson of the Miami-Dade Fire Rescue department pulled up in front of an apartment building.

A crowd gathered on the grass was watching a 10-foot Burmese python slowly squeeze a large Muscovy duck to death. But the lanky juvenile snake then struggled to get the 12-pound duck down its throat.

Cruz and Jillson, members of Miami-Dade Rescue's specialized Venom 1 unit, wrestled the snake under control as feathers flew. They carted the python away, not to be euthanized but to make sure it ended up where it wouldn't kill native animals or pets.

"Lately it's getting worse," Jillson said. "We're going to find even more of these animals."

In 2004, wildlife researchers found a gory tableau in the Everglades — a 13-foot python had swallowed a six-foot alligator whole. Then the snake's abdomen burst open, killing it and leaving both animals forever conjoined in reptilian mutually assured destruction.

In April of this year, a Eugene, Ore., police officer had to pry a pet-store owner's hand, which may have smelled like mice, from a 12-foot python's mouth. The snake even made a dash for the exit before being wrangled back into its cage.

Slithering Across America

The Oregon snake probably couldn't have survived in the Northwestern wilderness, but officials worry that pet Burmese pythons released into warmer areas could establish new populations. It would take about 50 individuals to ensure a viable community.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is considering listing the snakes as injurious wildlife under the Lacey Act, which would prohibit them from being imported or carried across state lines.

Unfortunately, the horse has already left the barn. One million live Burmese pythons were legally imported into the U.S. between 2001 and 2006, according to Fish and Wildlife. Almost all of them ended up as pets, and half of them came in through Miami.

"We don't have tools that are sufficient to control them on a continental scale," says Gordon Rodda, an invasive snake expert at the Fort Collins Science Center in Colorado, and lead author of the USGS study determining the extent of the snake's possible range.

Climate is the key factor in whether a snake can live or die in any given area. The USGS study, published in the February issue of the scientific journal Biological Invasions, found that conditions — including temperature and rainfall — in the lower third of the continental U.S. match those where pythons live in Southeast Asia, India and China.

The northern limits of the hypothetical U.S. range are open to some interpretation among snake experts, but most agree that the maps accurately predict where the pythons could survive. And since closely related Indian pythons live in the foothills of the Himalayas, where temperatures can dip to 40 degrees Fahrenheit, there's some wiggle room.

When the thermometer gets that low, or seasonal conditions get too dry, snakes aren't up for doing much and will simply hibernate, possibly for as long as four months.

A 10-foot snake ideally requires a fairly large, empty cavity to crawl into, but a hole under a tree stump or a rock pile will suffice.

Getting enough food isn't a big problem for Burmese pythons — they seem to prefer birds and rats, but will eat almost anything.

"If you're a sit-and-wait predator, you're probably going to grab it if it goes by," Rodda said. "You're not going to say, 'I don't feel like bluebirds today, I'd rather wait for a quail.'"

Top of the Food Chain

In 2003, when park rangers first confirmed that the pythons were breeding in the Everglades, some experts figured the abundant alligators would keep them in check. No such luck.

"This indicates to me it's going to be an even draw," University of Florida wildlife professor Frank Mazzotti told the Associated Press in 2005 after the famed conjoined-in-death carcasses were found. "Sometimes alligators are going to win, and sometimes the python will win."

Kenney Krysko, a herpetologist at the Florida Museum of Natural History in Gainesville who performs necropsies on every Burmese python caught by the National Park Service, has seen a couple of cases of the snake coming out on top.

"We just found our second alligator," says Krysko, referring to a recent snake examination. "We found them eating lots of wading birds. We found at least one bobcat, and at least one white-tailed deer."

Krysko stopped to correct himself. "It was mostly just some hair remnants and four hooves."

The pythons have extended their range down into the Florida Keys, where they lunch on the endangered Key Largo wood rat.

"Look at the end of the mainland to Key Largo — it's kind of a long way," says Paul T. Andreadis, a herpetologist at Denison University in Granville, Ohio.

But food may not be the only reason to traverse salty waters. Most of the snakes captured in Key Largo have been males who could be looking for mates.

"How far would they go for a date could potentially be a long distance," speculates Andreadis.

On the other hand, the mainland snakes don't seem to be taking food off any rival predator's table.

"There's no indication prey are in short supply," says Andreadis.

Others think the snakes are just getting started in a relentless, if slow-moving, slither across Florida and then into the rest of the Southeast.

"Once they hit the sugar cane fields [around Lake Okeechobee], it's definitely a lost cause," due to the large rat population there, Krysko said. "It's already a lost cause."

Even more alarmingly, Krysko said that the snakes he's received from up near Naples, Fla., are probably not transient Everglades snakes, but rather more released pets.

Some herpetologists argue there's still one highly efficient, dominant predator that could stop the pythons — us.

"When these things reach major urbanized areas, are they going to want to go across a Wal-Mart parking lot?" wonders Michael Dorcas, a biologist at Davidson College in North Carolina who tracks pythons using radio transmitters.

The answer could be yes. Ernie Jillson of Miami-Dade Rescue says most of his unit's Burmese python removals are from the heart of suburbia — curled up next to air-conditioning units, in swimming pools, under garages.

Rodda thinks residents of the southern U.S. need to be vigilant about not releasing pet pythons. He stresses that the authorities no longer consider their efforts a removal campaign for the invasive species, but simply a management campaign.

"The longer it takes, the harder it gets," Rodda says. "That is certainly the case here. It's getting harder with every passing day."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355104,00.html
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:09 PM   #5
SPJ
That gator photo is doctored. The snake was added in.
Look at the teeth on the gator and the way the burm is position (especially how it is holding it's head). There is no way a burm is going to be relaxed like that with a gator "sinking" it's teeth into it.
 
Old 05-14-2008, 06:19 AM   #6
wcreptiles
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPJ
That gator photo is doctored. The snake was added in.
Look at the teeth on the gator and the way the burm is position (especially how it is holding it's head). There is no way a burm is going to be relaxed like that with a gator "sinking" it's teeth into it.
You're right, I really didn't look at the picture closely. The picture caption "An American alligator and a Burmese python locked in a struggle to prevail in Everglades National Park." just doesn't fit when they are both so relaxed. Maybe it's in between rounds.

This picture was included in the article and I don't think it was doctored. Looks like they both lost the strugle to prevail.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:11 AM   #7
wcreptiles
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPJ
That gator photo is doctored. The snake was added in.
Look at the teeth on the gator and the way the burm is position (especially how it is holding it's head). There is no way a burm is going to be relaxed like that with a gator "sinking" it's teeth into it.
Here is a much larger picture of the gator/burm battle, I can't tell if it's doctored or not. I'm not very good at telling if a picture is photoshopped or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gator_and_Python.jpg

Full Resolution link.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...and_Python.jpg
 
Old 05-20-2008, 06:51 AM   #8
kmurphy
Doesn't look doctored to me, if it is it is a very good job. The teeth would be very difficult and getting the python's position in the back of the gator's mouth exactly right would also be tough.

A picture is a split second in time and a seemingly serene photo could actually be a battle royal. Where's the video?
 
Old 05-25-2008, 11:25 PM   #9
RosterImposter
I cant tell if the alligator is alive or not, and the teeth dont seem to look right to me. One more thing, if they were actually "fighting," I dont seem the burmese winning that. That is one small snake compared to the size of that gator. In all honesty, it looks like a recently killed gator and somebody juse put a burmese python around it.

Then again, Im not professional photographer, but it doesnt look right to me.
 

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