GROUND-BREAKING NEWS!!!

Hi all,
I have been working with several companies for a while trying
to get the shipping of snakes LEGAL. I am on the brink of getting it done but I need some help. I need the name of at least 22 companies that would be shipping snakes litterally everyday. I have a meeting coming up with them and want to be prepaired. They want to be assureed of how much revenue
they could be making if they were the only shipper and that we can ship in a responsible way. I am going to have to demonstrate what guidelines should be implemented, how we will pack the snakes to assure they are safe and secure, and
the potential revenue for the shipping company.
PLEASE take the time to email me with your name and contact info. spam_THANKS in advance for all your help!!

God Bless
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Ben...SIGN ME UP!! Granted, I don't ship EVERY DAY....but I do ship out between 2-5 packages a week!!

INFO:

Neil Gubitz - The Snake Pit
1302 West Busch Blvd
Tampa, FL 33612
813-935-0445
ngubitz@webtv.net
www.tampasnakepit.com

For a lot of people dealing with live animals, particularly breeders, shipping can be seasonal. &nbsp;Peaks will be when the babies are hatching out, and tapering off as supplies run low and then finished when stock runs out. &nbsp;So trying to nail down a daily shipping figure will be very difficult to do. &nbsp;As in any other business, shipping will also depend on how many orders come in, and there is no counting on the buying public to do what you think they should.

I try to schedule my shipments on one or two days of the week. &nbsp;This helps to manage my workload by allocating those days for this task. Plus Airborne charges a pickup fee if you do not have a minimum number of packages being picked up for shipment, so this helps me stay above that hurtle.

For a ballpark figure, lately my shipments have been from 4 to 12 packages a week. &nbsp;If the shipping cost was cheaper, I'm sure that number would be much higher.

I wish you luck in your efforts. &nbsp;If you need any further assistance with this, please contact me.

Rich Zuchowski
SerpenCo
P.O. Box 7547
Tallahassee, FL &nbsp;32314
(850) 926-6248

Allthough I do not ship a large number of snakes, this issue effects me greatly. I am no longer able to ship US Postal because they cannot get live on plains from Omaha. I cannot ship UPS cause the company policy doesnt allow live, and they open boxes in Omaha, and Airborne express got word I may be shipping snakes, and just yesterday started opening my boxes. So far I am allowed to ship lizards with them, but its only a matter of time before they realize a bearded dragon is not a frog. So I am quickly running out of any option to ship.

I ship about 10 packages a month minnimum, with up to 50 packages a month during peak season.

Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
Omaha NE 68107

Ben I will give you any more info you need, but dont want to put my address on a fourum

Although it is not an official business name, it is the name i sell by....M n R-Reptiles...from april to september minimum one package a day. Sometimes it si 10 packages or more...depends on what is available to sell. I know Xtreme reptiles sends out twenty to forty boxes a day as well as Ben Siegel..contact them to see whats up if they want to be involoved...Zoological Imports the same. Strictly Reptiles sometimes ships over 100 boxes a day. But as always..sometimes these companies dont ship a single box one day(rarely&#33<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>...Other people you can contact are glades herp, Aline reptiles, and pretty much any other importer/pet store dealer....they all ship out rahter regularly monday to thursday. Sometimes sending out on fridays with saturday delivery stickers because a pt store might need new things by the last of the week for the weekend. Contact everybody if you can on the importers/exporters section on kingsnake....and big names.

The big get bigger, and the little guy suffers!!

spam_I appreciate that your trying to get shipping snakes legalized, but obviously its already pointing towards a "KNOWN SHIPPER" or "FREQUENT SHIPPER" scenario. spam_ spam_
spam_Why should only companies have an impact on whether or not shipping reptiles becomes legal. spam_If your going to push for it, push for it for EVERYONE! spam_There are alot of guys out there who dont have a company name, or don't produce 4000 hatchlings a year. spam_I only ship in late summer and fall when I have an order to fill. spam_This is not every day, nor once a week at times. spam_So if I'm not a company, I shouldn't be able to LEGALLY ship?!
spam_ I had been using USPS until the 911 disaster, when they canceled live reptile shipment. spam_I was labeling the box live, harmless reptiles, and never had a problem with them. spam_I had a box delayed once in three years or so. spam_UPS wont allow live animals to be shipped unless you're a petstore, and Delta dash wont accept any new customers, only known shippers.
spam_ spam_Instead of looking to get somthing accomplished that will only help companies or the "big name" guys, COLLECTIVELY, lets try to get something passed that will help us all. spam_Thanks.

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JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, IF I GET THIS WORKING, EVERYONE NO MATTER IF YOUR A INDIVIDUAL OR A COMPANY,
WILL BE ABLE TO SHIP WITH THE SYSTEM I'M WORKING ON.
I ASKED FOR COMPANIES JUST TO USE AS REFERRENCES SINCE THEY SHIP SO MUCH AND I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE
THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE POTENTIAL TO THE SHIPPING COMPANY I'M WORKING WITH.
I'M A LITTLE IDDY BITTY GUY MYSELF!! AND THIS WILL BENEFIT EVERYONE BIG OR SMALL <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

GOD BLESS
BEN@C.R.C.

Ben, thanks for coming back in and saying that. spam_Personally, it meant alot to me. spam_After all, as Im sure you would agree, this is still a hobby for many guys, and not just a business. spam_Sometimes, it seems that if you're not a "name" your animals arent of any quality, or of any value. spam_I think most of us hope to be able to enjoy this hobby, and have it to the point where it pays for itself. spam_I myself go down to my room, and get lost for a few hours. spam_It got so bad that the Mrs. had to buy me an intercom, so I could be in touch with the outside world. spam_I would hate to be so big, that I would have to ship everyday. spam_To me, that would be WORK, and I have a job already, LOL.

spam_If I can help in any way, please do not hesitate to ask. spam_ Good luck and thank you!

It sounds great but why aren't you saying what company it is? Mark Kennedy

Ben,
I think it's great that you've taken the initiative to do this as it will surely benefit us all. However, I don't think there's any way you'll be able to get an accurate depiction of the quantities of reptiles being shipped. The way I'd approach this is why not get this company to ship reptiles on a trial basis for four months and see exactly what the numbers are? There are so many people sending animals illegally that WANT to ship legally if they only have the option to do so. For example if Airborne makes it well known that they will allow shipping of all reptiles and people actually list the package contents as snakes or whatever they should be able to punch up the numbers on their computer how many animals have been shipped for a given period and what the revenues are. Money talks and when they realize just how much is involved you'll see that four month trial period extended indefinitely! The other point I'd like to make is with so much competition among the major shippers what company doesn't want to increase their business? Whoever you're negotiating with is going to be a hero in our book AND their company's eyes also. Talk about incentive! It certainly sounds like a win win situation to me, don't you agree? I sincerely thank you for making the effort you are on behalf of everyone.

Greg Riso