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Bad Guy BEWARE- ANIMAL SPECAILTIES- chico california by Elizabeth Minton

Elizabeth Minton

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Shady Company:i started working at animal specialties on 7th and orange in chico california on 10-29-10. they did not have any paperwork for me to fill out until 11-3-10. i worked there monday, wednesday, and friday working with over 4000 bearded dragons and a few other various reptiles. i asked alot of questions and stuff like that. i did my job well and in the time frames they wanted them done in. i turned in my paperwork on 11-5-10 and i talked to the front office because they had my hours wrong on the paper. i was working from 8:30am to 12 noon on monday and wednesday... not 8:30am to 10:30am. the lady said she would reveiw my hours with the boss... that was friday. saturday the boss called me and laid me off saying my hours werent working for them, they needed full time workers even though their ad said part time... wich they promptly removed.

i am writing this thread to notify you that they are a private breeder who keep their stock of over 4000 beardies in a wearhouse. many of the beardies have caved in backs, bulging irritated eyes, humpbacks, missing limbs, deformed heads, spiral tails, mite infestations, numerous beardie deaths. my first day of work i found 3 dead and then i saw a worker with a plastic dish of 6 dead hatchlings. i have seem cockaroach infestations in bearded dragon tubs and many of their breeders are suffering from these deformities and a fungus called Bumps. they claim they adopt out the beardies who are too deformed to breed which means they still do breed deformed bearded dragons.
 
this kind of sounds like a disgruntled ex employee venting, but do you have any pictures to back up the claims? i would also be interested in hearing from anyone who has purchased beardies from animal specialties. i breed leopard geckos and due to temp fluctuations, environmental issues, and buried genes.. you will sometimes get deformities. in my case though if the quality of life of the animal is in jeopardy, they are humanely euthanized. are you saying that you witnessed them actually breeding dragons that had deformities?
 
i have a few pics of beadies on my phone but they are healthy ones... sorry. i was fired before i could get any good pictures of them. i know for a fact though that they do not euthanize. if the animal dies it dies or they wait to medicate it until it is too late. i came across 1 with that issue. it was too weak to respond to even being picked up. i was gonna get pics on monday when i went in for work but they fired me yesterday and will not let me back in packaging and shipping. i did witness that. i saw beardies with kinked tails and missing feet in breeder tubs with 2-3 females.
 
then slap me with a neg. i can give a rats bum. just trying to inform people about what i worked with recently that i know people disagree with breeding of kinked or deformed animals. whatever its your choice. i was just giving a warning. got laid off before i could get those pictures. i rarely use this site anhow.
 
Have you let them know this is here so they can post their side of things?

I tried contacting them, but the number I found didn't work. I figure they'd want to know of accusations like this.

I agree, disgruntled employee. And Elizabeth has already shown before that she'll be vindictive if things don't go her way.
 
then slap me with a neg. i can give a rats bum. just trying to inform people about what i worked with recently that i know people disagree with breeding of kinked or deformed animals. whatever its your choice. i was just giving a warning. got laid off before i could get those pictures. i rarely use this site anhow.

You can't give a "warning." You got fired/laid off...your testimony is tainted. You NEED pics.:rolleyes:

Do you at least have a copy of the ad that shows they wanted Part-time workers? Your paperwork showing you were laid off because they wanted someone Full-time?

When all this was happening, why didn't you get pics then if you were so offended? Just asking..no alternative motive.:)
 
If what you say is all true...then a warning to the general public is certainly warranted. However...what reason does anyone have to believe you?

If you saw such bad things on your very first day...why would you go back to work there another day? Why would you WANT to keep your job there if things were so horrible?

I'm with Deborah on this one...you simply have to post some proof of your accusations or this whole effort on your part is meaningless. If you had your phone/camera there and were able to get pics of healthy animals, it doesn't make much sense that you wouldn't think to snap some pics of the horrible, disgusting conditions you saw as well. Unless, of course, those conditions didn't mean anything special to you until you were "laid off." :rolleyes:
 
i have a $600 bill to pay starting december... a rather manditory court bill and id rather feed and care for those animals and earn money to pay my bill than not have a job at all and go to jail.
 
Wow... what a silly thread.
If you have bills to pay, like we all do, go out and look for another job instead of posting Bad Guy threads about your former employer on the BOI.
For the record, I did look at your other posts on here and a lot of them seem to go in the same direction. I'm sure you're a nice person, but doesn't that tell you something???
 
i have a $600 bill to pay starting december... a rather manditory court bill and id rather feed and care for those animals and earn money to pay my bill than not have a job at all and go to jail.

Did they fire you because you would not work full time? Why not work for them full time if you have these expenses?

I'm not defending them, I don't have enough facts either way, but is it possible that what you saw were some nips and so on? Did you report what you saw to their vet or to the managers?
 
i have a $600 bill to pay starting december... a rather manditory court bill and id rather feed and care for those animals and earn money to pay my bill than not have a job at all and go to jail.

Ahhh...ok. So the conditions of the animals were ok so long as YOU were making money there. But not good enough for them to make money without you?

Your story isn't really making much sense. If you need money and they wanted a full time person, why not work for them full time? Unless that whole ramble about being "laid off" because they wanted a full time employee even though the ad said "part time" was BS...and you were let go because you simply couldn't do the job? Or tried to pad your hours? Or....???

I have no idea if what you say about the conditions of the business being so bad is true or not. But you're not giving anyone a reason to believe it...and more and more it sounds like sour grapes rather than a legitimate complaint.
 
I would think that with all the free animals she was "trolling" for: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180634

Advertising for a job: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176948

Plans to breed BPs and go to college:
05-07-2010 10:36 PMElizabeth Minton i dont deserve it. im going to college and trying to invest in morphs for a breeding program in 3+ years. with my income its not easy and college isnt cheap

That she would WANT to work full time..but ahh, what do I know these days.:shrug01:

Regardless, she's put out too many contradictory posts for me to put much stock in this thread without some evidence.:rolleyes:
 
She may already have a full time job and took on this 1 as a part time gig..who knows or cares.No evidence to back these claims(,though I'm sure there are plenty of places out there with these type of conditions) makes it pretty useless.
 
i couldnt work full time because i am going to college for vet schooling. i do not have time for 8 hours every 6-7 days. i did as many hours as i could. i didnt even have time to shower after work. i had school right after my shift ended. i was actually pushing my hours. i dont care what you gues think. i was just trying to inform people of the conditions of the animals i worked with for 2 weeks. i was not fired... i was laid off wich is alot better, i was doing my job well wich included feeding, watering, and scooping cages... pretty easy a retard could do that so dont try to say i wasnt doing it right. the boss told me that they decided my schedule wouldnt work for them and that they were starting to hire full time workers (non college students) and did not have any room for my schedule. i was working there with plans to earn money while looking for another job. it isnt easy to find jobs in my town so when you get a place you stay with it for as long as you can
 
i couldnt work full time because i am going to college for vet schooling. i do not have time for 8 hours every 6-7 days. i did as many hours as i could. i didnt even have time to shower after work. i had school right after my shift ended. i was actually pushing my hours. i dont care what you gues think. i was just trying to inform people of the conditions of the animals i worked with for 2 weeks. i was not fired... i was laid off wich is alot better, i was doing my job well wich included feeding, watering, and scooping cages... pretty easy a retard could do that so dont try to say i wasnt doing it right. the boss told me that they decided my schedule wouldnt work for them and that they were starting to hire full time workers (non college students) and did not have any room for my schedule. i was working there with plans to earn money while looking for another job. it isnt easy to find jobs in my town so when you get a place you stay with it for as long as you can

Wow..that's wonderful, I have a lot of respect for people that try and make it though college, could you post a transcript? You don't have to of course, but if one part of your story was correct, it may make some of the rest of it more believeable.:shrug01:

Regardless, it doesn't look good that you seemed to be willing to "overlook" conditions as long as you had a job (note how long you worked before being laid off), but the moment you were laid off, you "tattled."

Some of us do take BOI posts seriously, and others just want to be able to post something.:rolleyes:
 
i will post my college class schedule. i wasnt trying to overlook them. i was working to earn a little money to pay of my $600 fine starting december. when i applied all they had me do was submit a resume. i thought it was gonna be an amazing place... i was wrong. i have been looking for another job since day 1 and i had only worked 4 days so it would be different if i had worked say 1 year with animals in that condition. i will try to post my schedule now
 
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