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Info needed on Eric White

Eric White w/ Reptile Exotics (BAD GUY)

My first purchase experience was with Eric White, reptile Exotics earlier this year. I made a mistake by purchasing w/o learning as much as I should have (I just didn't realize how much I didn't know). I bought 10 wc females from him, and he said that they were treated, and that they had all been eating for 4-6 months. I've yet to have any of them to eat yet.

He also said he'd send me 10 1500g+ females. I ended up receiving mite & tick infested females, with only one being over 1500g. I just bought 3 females from another breeder in portland who had a similar experience with Eric, and he said ALL of his females ended up dying. Eric refused a return on either of our purchases.
 
I did a deal with Eric a few months ago! My buddy was looking to get into ball pythons and asked me for some help, and he saw 1 of Eric's adds... So I went ahead and did all the leg work for my friend. Alot of things went bad in that deal.
And it did not help that Eric had a premature baby!
Eric did send me the money back! And a few months later, Eric gives me a call and Offers me a great deal.. Wich I passed up! But he did try and makes things right with me! As far as I am conserned he made things right by paying me back!!!
So he did go the extra mile by calling me up! and offering a great deal!!!!
Some people learn by experiance-and some people learn from others!

Eric had to learn from Experiance...Me being most likley his worst sale ever! But he made things right! Hopefully Eric has made right all his past wrongs, so to make a good name for himself!
Isaac
 
He sure does not sound like anyone I would reccomend doing business with. There too many good guys selling good qualith healthy animals. Avoid this guy. It would be a waste of time and money to get mixed up in a deal with him.
 
Eric

I have had a number of transactions with Eric white. All have been without incident. The animals were as described, all healthy. Free of mites and ticks.

I did have a problem with some of them feeding. (it was not a guarantee) Eric contacted me daily to try different things to get them to eat. They finally did.

What I have purchased from Eric:

50 baby female balls, all healthy
5 CB balls, all healthy

20 WC ball females. all healthy.

I have to admit if I read the above posts before I purchased from him , I would not have. Today I have had good results with Eric and would purchase again.

Steve Leonard
Orchid Gecko.
 
I also made a transaction with Eric everything was pretty good he even managed to ship out on a day he almost couldnt at his on expensive he managed. I purchased a very, very large female ball WC clean of parasites and the only problem I have is that this female has yet to eat.....he has given me advice but this female still fails to eat and its been about a 2 to 3 months.... he told this female ate for sure so im still confident to believe this female eats but im getting less and less hopefull about it but then again this female was fairly priced feeding or not but I told him I didnt want any problems with this female seeing how my others werent to easy to deal with as it is (worst dessicsion was to buy WCs in the first place but I couldnt resist) and he said I would have any problems... so as of now im alittle neutrul but not to bad so yeah im sitting on the fence on this one
thanks to all,
Jose Gallegos
 
When I made my first deal with Eric for 10 WC's, since this was my first purchase of any snake, I asked him if there was legitimate concern over getting wc vs. cb. He said that he's done a lot of deals on wc females and has NEVER had anyone with any problems...It sounds like even that was not completely true.
 
OK I guess

I purchased a couple of high end Balls from him. Hatchlings.
There was a small issue with one of them, but he gave me a 6 month garantee on health. So far they have both proven to be great eaters and there has been no further incident. However, he did try to sell me some WC females that he had 'proven out'. I asked how exactly he had gotten WC females to breed and then why would he be selling them so cheap. He didn't really have an answer or pictures of them breeding or on eggs...hmm. So far, however, I am satisfied with the female ghost and male pastel I purchased from him.
 
good turn out i guess

this thread might be dead but I geuss I might as well tell my resolution:
well after a while (eric recently lost a family member) eric and me finally worked something out and took back my 3 wc's that werent eating the largest was his the others from tripple h herps and nancy crouton whom I lost contact with and gave me back 2 juvie females (just recieved last week) hopefully this will eat as he says they do it felt alittle unequal but he promised to send back any of those 3 females if he can manage to get them on a feeding schedule or work a deal on a pastel so im hopefull he will not forget but he was very cooperative so I would say he is very reliable
many thanks,
Jose Gallegos
 
My instincts told me no,

but I believe some people change. Unfortunately not in this case.

For those that know, I own a Lesser het Hypo yearling and there are currently only 3 owners of this animal at its weight and size. One of which is not attempting to breed the animal. In my desperate pursuit to aquire and produce the first Lesser Hypo, I entered into an agreement with Isaac Fields of MaddSeasonMorphs and Eric White of ReptilesExotics.

Eric led Isaac and me to believe that he had in his posession an adult 4 year old Orange Ghost and was going to sell it at a show the following morning if we could not make deposit to secure the animal. We secured it with a $600 dollar deposit and followed up the agreement and paid it in full (5K) inside of the next 4 days. Eric refsues to answer my emails and Isaac calls me to tell me he will have the snake here by Wednesday the 28th of December and guess what??? No snake and no calls and no emails and no money but more third party excuses as to why he still hadnt gotten this apparent killer snake from Ian G. Rumor has it he actually never owned the snake or even posessed it and tried to purchase it with the cash he received.

I will make one easy decision for those hoping to buy an animal form Eric White @ ReptilesExotics. DONT!!!!!!!!!!!

Those that know me know I am for real. If I need to post emails as proof, let me know, but the guy is a fraud and I have filed a Paypal dispute.

My guess is that it was a WC animal because he contacted 2 of my very good friends to sell it to recover the money. What a joke.

Jeff Morrison
5StarrMorphs
 
Refund

Well Eric wont answer emails or phone calls, but he does answer Paypal disputes. He has while I was posting this made an attempt to refund my money. Course I have to wait for that until the dispute is settled.

Whatever the case, Eric has misrepresented himself again, much like the WC, mite infected, DOA animals he sent Isaac many months ago and nothing more has changed. He has just moved up to higher end morphs misrepresenting himself and others involved.

That was a very poor move and is in no way acceptable. Purchase with caution.

Jeff Morrison
5StarrMorphs
 
Well, where to start ...
First of all the origional deal was between myself and Issac ... I had been working on getting him an adult hypo for a while to help him out with this coming breeding season ...
Quote from above ...
"Eric led Isaac and me to believe that he had in his posession an adult 4 year old Orange Ghost and was going to sell it at a show the following morning if we could not make deposit to secure the animal. "
Issac knew that the animal wasnt in my possesion ... He also knew that I needed the money up front to make sure that I could get the animal for him ...
"We secured it with a $600 dollar deposit and followed up the agreement and paid it in full (5K) inside of the next 4 days. "
Jeff did send $600 ... Along with that came 400$ from Issac and the other 4k came within the next few days from ISSAC ... THE DEAL WAS WITH ISSAC NOT JEFF ... ISSAC SAID HE TOLD JEFF THE DEAL WAS BETWEEN MYSELF AND HIM (ISSAC) ... I am not into the whole talking three way conversations with everyone because of this reason ... The one who I recieved the money from was ISSAC so that is who I was dealing with ...
Myself and Issac have come up with a solution to the whole holiday maddness and lack of things getting accomplised ... No harm done ... Me and ISSAC were strait ... Jeff never said a word about his 600$ that he sent ... I was under the impression that Issac had already sent that money back to him ... Well I guess not ... As soon as I saw the email come up about the PayPal dispute I imediatly sent the money to him ... As to why he is getting on here and posting all of the above I am not sure because like I said before THE DEAL WAS WITH ISSAC NOT JEFF ...
 
ReptilesExotics said:
Well, where to start ...
First of all the origional deal was between myself and Issac ........As to why he is getting on here and posting all of the above I am not sure because like I said before THE DEAL WAS WITH ISSAC NOT JEFF ...

Since this is the only place you will answer back to, who in the world do you think Isaac was trying to buy a hypo for???? Did you think Isaac owned one of only 5 animals in the world????

I sent Isaac on a mission to find me a hypo whether it was from a breeding loan, or by trade or outright purchase. You act as if the conversation between you and I never happened as well. I told you how important it was for us to make this happen and you assured me it was going to.

I documented everything so there was a trail because of your past experience.

Facts are facts. Whether it was you and Isaac origionally, I was involved and the initial deposit was made from my Paypal account, not Isaacs, so no dummy pass there. You said if the deposit wasnt made by the morning time before you went to the show you were selling it. How do you sell an animal you dont own?? Furthermore, how do you agree to send an animal that is an orange ghost and send us pictures of an ovulating yellow ghost??? Then try and pawn off the imported animal to friends of mine to repay your debt??


J & S to Eric
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From: J & S <[email protected]> Mailed-By: gmail.com

To: Eric White - Reptiles Exotics <[email protected]>
Date: Dec 13, 2005 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Ghost Female
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Left you a couple of messages, get ahold of me when you can. Isaac sent me a picture of the animal we are buying, or should I say purchased and it looks to me like a yellow ghost/hypo instead of the orange ghost we talked about. Let me know
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From: Eric White - Reptiles Exotics <[email protected]> Mailed-By: cox.net

To: J & S <[email protected]>
Date: Dec 14, 2005 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Ghost Female
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Jeff,



Sorry I haven’t got back with you … I am going to be out of town for the next two days … I will give you a call when I get back Friday night …



Eric White


I have not heard from or received any communication since the reply and left you several messages.

Bottom line is, you misrepresented the animal for sale and it was with Isaac and Me and thats why this is here. Where is Isaacs money now while I wait for mine?? You told him, the snake or the money by Wednesday and also told him the hypo was to be picked up when you got your super cinny. You then post pics of this super cinny that you got from Ian on KS and refuse to respond to emails or phone calls until the dispute is started.

You have no case or rebuttal. You did not send or attempt to send the animal we "BOTH" attempted to aquire and went to 2 friends of mine to off the imported one this week. Where is the 5K and why isnt it still in your Paypal account??? Why move money if you hadnt picked up the animal???

Too many holes and too much BS. You choked and it isnt the first time or the last.

Jeff Morrison
5StarrMorphs
 
Paypal Transaction and Orange Ghost Photo

Proof is in the pudding ;)

I swear that looks like an Orange Hypo and a Paypal transaction to me.


Jeff Morrison
5StarrMorphs
 

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Ok Jeff,
So what was the point of posting that ... We already established that a refund was sent to you ... Your right proof is in the pudding I sent you a refund, a full refund that came from your account ... Nothing else should be said by you ... Everything else is between myself and Issac ...
 
Wrong

That hypo was being purchased for "MY BREEDING PROGRAM" and no one else's. Not Isaacs, not Steves, not Bill's, mine.

I had to file a dispute to get action, thats why this is here and is going no where. I cannot tell you how enraged I am in words, but trust me when I say, a transaction between you and anyone I know will "NEVER" happen from this day forward.

It is late and Im off to find a future wife so I will not be able to repsond to any more posts for a few hours, but I promise to reply as soon as I can or am able to, to any posts that follow.

With a transaction like this, you dont try and pay one and assume the others should be quiet. You have now put me in a spot trying to aquire a hypo at the end of December!!!! I realize 3 weeks isnt alot of time, but its just more work either me or Isaac have to put into trying to aquire one.

Jeff Morrison
5StarrMorphs
 
Proof In The Pudding Allright

Like I Said ... You Was Refunded ... What Is Left Is Between Myself And Issac You Need Not Say Anything Else !!!

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